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| Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"Could there be any implications on the local funding provided for your community stadium under the CSR?
On the whole our stadium is privately funded as part of a wider business development, with the local council giving a land donation of around $2,000,000 for both us and Cas.
Hope all is well and those no good Tories don't hinder your plans!'"
The public money that's been "given" to the scheme (NWDA contaminated land remediation funds) has now been spent - so hopefully we'll be fine.
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| Oh that's good.
I was under the impression that the ground was a joint venture from Peel and your local council, I thought your council gave a donation of several million pounds??
Anyway's as I said all the best for the future.
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| Site pics from driving (we'll being a passenger) over Barton Bridge yesterday. I think the smooth area to the top end of the site is what MR is talking about further up the thread and is the approx area of the stadium.
Plenty of work going on again this morning as I drove over.
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| The leveling off process seems to be all that's left to do now as they are really cracking on with it.
Do they have to leave it fallow for a certain amount of time before anything else can happen???
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| Hi Cas fan here.
I know Salford got full planning approval in August but The plans had to be formally approved by The Secretary of State.
Have you had that yet?
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| It was just a formality as the project had been called in initially, & the original plans had changed in some area's, so it is all sorted now, hence building starts within the next 2/3 weeks.
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| Quote ="billybradshawsmum"It was just a formality as the project had been called in initially, & the original plans had changed in some area's, so it is all sorted now, hence building starts within the next 2/3 weeks.'"
Cheers I know you had no problems with it but when did the SOS give the formal approval? any links to view?
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| Quote ="bigalf"Cheers I know you had no problems with it but when did the SOS give the formal approval? any links to view?'"
Not trying to be funny, but -
Any chance of an answer/confirmation?
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| Quote ="bigalf"Not trying to be funny, but -
Any chance of an answer/confirmation?'"
I'm pretty sure you'll find your answer if you search through the last few pages of this thread. Besides doing that, I'm sure Iain or Middleman will answer your question when they get chance.
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| possibly somewhere in back posts something will have been ,but as the build starts a.s.a. im sure another statement will be made soon.
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| Quote Michigan red wroteicon_biggrin.gifrove past this morning and it looks like they are in the final stages as they are now leveling and smoothing the top surface.
Does anyone know the date when the chosen contractors are announced?, think that is the next important date'"
Quote ="middleman"Think the tendering process is down to the final two bidders and the preferred bidder will know sometime in the next two weeks, then it's all systems go
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Quote Post subject: Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!!
Sandal Wild Cat wrote : Could there be any implications on the local funding provided for your community stadium under the CSR? On the whole our stadium is privately funded as part of a wider business development, with the local council giving a land donation of around $2,000,000 for both us and Cas.
Hope all is well and those no good Tories don't hinder your plans!
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Quote Post subject: Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!!
Big Alf Wrote : Hi Cas fan here.I know Salford got full planning approval in August but The plans had to be formally approved by The Secretary of State.Have you had that yet?
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Quote Not trying to be funny, but -
Any chance of an answer/confirmation?
Quote ="bigalf"Cheers I know you had no problems with it but when did the SOS give the formal approval? any links to view?'"
Not trying to be funny, but -
Any chance of an answer/confirmation?
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All this concern from our fellow Cas & Wakefield fans , really touched!
No change to my last comment I'm afraid
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| How much was Salford Council giving towards the costs? With the Government announcing big cuts to the amounts they give to local councils, the result could be a scuppering of plans of yourselves, Wakey and Cas.
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| Quote ="middleman"All this concern from our fellow Cas & Wakefield fans , really touched!
No change to my last comment I'm afraid'"
I really do not have a problem with salford or your new ground. I was just asking a simple question to find out how long the S of S took or is taking to give the official green light.
I will assume that you do not have the official go ahead yet after 2 months.
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| So has anyone got the answer for Bigalf?
I would also be interested.
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| As far as I've been informed everything is rubber stamped, although I don't know if or where this decision can be viewed. Obviously, back when we went through the first lot of planning, the Council Committee approved it and then needed clearance from above, which resulted in it being called in for public inquiry and then the decision of the inquiry being published (as a fairly weighty document). Now what I don't know is whether there is an official announcement published when something is [unot[/u called in, or whether they just make an announcement if something [uis[/u called in.
Anyhow - drove over Barton Bridge in rush hour last night and had a good chance to see further. Still plenty of work going on past 5pm, and a quite a transformation on the site since the pics I posted 11 days ago. Almost all the site is now leveled and smoothed over, including profiling of the watercourse valley through the site.
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| The last 'building due to start in......' was November wasn't it? There have been numerous of these announcements in the last few years, maybe this time they will start on time? Or maybe the cuts to council budgets might change a few things especially as the council had earmarked 20 million for it. Will they still be able to justify that outlay to the residents of Salford?
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| Firstly Salford council aren't putting the full amount in , it's a joint venture between Peel holdings aswell as the Council. Around 10 million each I beleive. Reagrding whether the cuts will affect the project I believe the funds have already been pledged and are in place for the stadium. Around 4 million pounds has already been spent of NWDA money for the ground work.
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| Quote ="alext" *Snip*'"
Spot on fella, many of you know where I work and some of my colleagues have been very close to all this over a very long time.
This is a Joint Venture Company formed between Salford City Council and Peel Holdings. The Joint Venture Company is the applicant for the application and the City Council have provided the Joint Venture Company with a loan to pay for the construction work and new infrastructure. The Joint Venture Company would own and manage the community stadium, with the Salford City Reds having a licence to use it.
The Council aren't [i giving[/i money they are [i lending[/i it to the JVC, money that has already been sourced and ring fenced. The Council will reap the rewards when the Retail development is opened via rents.
I've just had it confirmed that these spending cuts will have no impact on the stadium and there is absolutely no call in from the Secretary of State and all systems are go!
I'm also lead to believe that this money isn't coming directly out of Salford residents pockets the Council are borrowing it to lend to the JVC as in these times a private company would struggle to get that kind of loan direct from banks. It will be paid back over time and the council may even make out if it in the long term.
Salford City Council are determined that this Stadium happens, they have given it the fullest of support and see it as another jewel in the City’s crown, following the Lowry Centre, Lowry Hotel, BBC/Media City etc.
Sorry for the rant but there are far too many ill informed people taking guesses, pot shots and assumptions who are making comments.
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| Don't think you will be getting many come backs to that fella!
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| Quote ="PIPO"Don't think you will be getting many come backs to that fella! '"
Over to you, Starbug.
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| Starbug?
You have answered my question. I have noted that The Council or Peel Holdings have yet to put their hands into their pockets as the NWDA have funded the ground clearance/preparation. Do you have anyone to build the stadium yet? I know it was out to tender, but haven't seen anything about a final decision anywhere
ps I don't suppose the residents will have to stump up too much interest on 10 mill
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| Quote ="DemonUK"Starbug?'"
Yeah he does a fair bit of trolling on here about the new ground
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| I looked back over the posts just on this page. Anyway I was just asking questions. Although if building doesn't start in November, I will probably be back along with Starbug
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| Quote ="DemonUK"How much was Salford Council giving towards the costs? With the Government announcing big cuts to the amounts they give to local councils, the result could be a scuppering of plans of yourselves, Wakey and Cas.'"
Wakefield council are not putting any money into either Trinity or Cas's stadium.
Wakefield have full funding available as was confirmed today during the Planning Meeting.
Cas have a funding issue to which we hav'nt yet seen a proposed solution.
Wakefield and Cas now both have OPP but Castlefords is near to expiration as far as I know, I will stand corrected on this.
The momentum is now with Wakefield who are forging ahead with Full PP, have contractors ready and the money to get going.
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| Quote ="John Charnock"Over to you, Starbug.'"
I've never said you arent getting a stadium , just when you are getting a stadium ?
I still dont think you will see you first games if any in 2012 at Barton , I might be proved wrong ,
I havent been over the bridge for a while , but by my reckoning you have 60 weeks to do it , better get the tools out boys
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