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| Quote ="jeffvickers"www.sportsmole.co.uk/rugby-league/four-nations/news/rangi-chase-named-in-four-nations-squad_5370.html
This will confuse Salford fans!'"
Well it might have done had the article date not been 2011 !!!
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| Quote ="BartonFlyer"Well it might have done had the article date not been 2011 !!!'"
To be fair, the whole post does qualify as confusing.
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| If Chase was to leave I would like to see Eastmond as his replacement.
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| I think the photo of Chase in a Halifax shirt was supposed to be the confusing part.
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| just out of interest does anybody know if Chase is injured at the moment, on crutches,???
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| Does anybody know when we can expect to hear the outcome of the disciplinary hearing ?
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| Just seen a very strange post from Rangi with a pic of himself. Don't know how to do links but it seems to be a cry for help.
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| All the words we're hearing are that he is far from enjoying life at Salford, whether this be the under performing team, the pressure placed on by the boss man or whatever. Supposedly wants to come back to Cas.
You're right though, his post was very worrying, I think it needs remembering for all his quality etc, he's just a man. The game cannot afford to neglect him and allow him to continue to struggle.
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| It looked like a cry for help and when I read it I interpreted it as though he is not getting help from people who should be helping him. I'm not sure if that means the club, the RFL, family or someone else? Hopefully someone from State of Mind can jump on this and confirm he is okay.
I've never been an admirer of his attitude on the pitch but I wouldn't wish mental troubles on anybody.
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| Quote ="Dettoriman"All the words we're hearing are that he is far from enjoying life at Salford, whether this be the under performing team, the pressure placed on by the boss man or whatever. Supposedly wants to come back to Cas.
You're right though, his post was very worrying, I think it needs remembering for all his quality etc, he's just a man. The game cannot afford to neglect him and allow him to continue to struggle.'"
Rangi has spoken to people from Warrington, Saints, Wigan, Catalan and Leigh with regards to a move. I doubt he would want to move back to Cas, as don't forget he wasn't exactly happy during his time there either. Wherever Rangi goes he will struggle, that is just the type of character that he is. His current issues aren't all RL related either, he has issues with his personal life which are contributing to his current problems.
Hopefully the club fulfil their duty of care and help him with whatever he needs.
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| For the majority of his time with us he was very happy,
I'm told on more than one occasion his representatives have contacted Cas recently to explore the possibility of a return. Obviously the wages he's been paid there would never be matched by ourselves.
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| His wages wont the problem, as he probably realises now that he has just one decent contract left in him and will favour happiness over money, but his transfer fee will be. He's on a very lucrative deal at Salford, who don't forget paid a substantial fee to Cas for his services. During that time you can only say he has improved as a player, certainly physically he has never been in as good a shape as he currently is. Therefore who is going to stump up the £150-200k fee?
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"During that time you can only say he has improved as a player, certainly physically he has never been in as good a shape as he currently is. Therefore who is going to stump up the £150-200k fee?'"
He has been as good as they're ear he won Man of Steel or the year after? I think not.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"He has been as good as they're ear he won Man of Steel or the year after? I think not.'"
Thank goodness for that I thought "ow no our resident legal eagle is here to give us his wisdom again"
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"He has been as good as they're ear he won Man of Steel or the year after? I think not.'"
Given the amount of games he has missed this season, it would have been near impossible to repeat the consistencies of those seasons mentioned. That doesn't detract away from the fantastic individual performances we have seen from him this season.
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| If he's improved as a player, with the rest of the money you have spent, surely you'd be chasing silverware by now. He was incredible in his time at Cas.
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| Quote ="Dettoriman"If he's improved as a player, with the rest of the money you have spent, surely you'd be chasing silverware by now. He was incredible in his time at Cas.'"
You seem to forget the amount of dross that he has to play with though...
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| He is certainly a talent, that's for sure.
I always think it's hard to compare players playing for different clubs. When Rangi played with us Salford fans only saw him against their team and when we were in TV. Cas fans have seen the same of him during his time at Salford.
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| Quote ="Dettoriman"If he's improved as a player, with the rest of the money you have spent, surely you'd be chasing silverware by now. He was incredible in his time at Cas.'"
Cas fans should realise the difference between having one world-class player in a team against 17 very solid and committed players who execute their coaches game plan to perfection. That's why Cas have come closer to winning silverware without Rangi than they did with him.
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| Non of this matters really, his health should be paramount for everyone involved with RL regardless of the team they support.
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| Anyone know what is going on with the Rangi disciplinary situation as the club aren't saying anything at all?
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| Quote ="redwolf"Anyone know what is going on with the Rangi disciplinary situation as the club aren't saying anything at all?'"
Oh aye mate, there's hundreds of us in the know here. We were all going to keep quiet, but since you've asked...
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| According to the Daily Mirror, the disciplinary meeting has been postponed as he is unwell; a normal procedure in any meeting/tribunal/etc. He is on sick leave at the moment: how this is affected by/effects the suspension is answered by the HR policies within the club (and national legisilation).
In summary, and from what people on here have been posting, we need to back off and hope the help is available, the player gets support, and the matter of his missing training is considered appropriately. From the same Mirror story, it seems there have been comments on some media that have been obstructive or critical and upset a person who is going through a bad patch. Insensitive or ignorant perosns I cannot tell: but now we are aware of the matter, let's await developments supporting both the club and the individual as proper supporters.
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| I`m all for supporting a player who needs support etc, but when someone is on sick leave, does that mean he is banned from using the clubs facilities including training. We all know he is an exceptional player and just when you need him most in the next two vital games, the club are not calling on his services.
This appears to be more than just `him missing a training session` and the club need to keep the fans more informed.
I believe he wants to return, but the club are not letting him.
If we lose to Widnes and Hull KR and I believe we will and Wakefield win, then Iv`e no doubt we will be in million pound game due to an inferior points difference.
With all the previous goings on at the club, just maybe, some stability is required with our best performing players available.
I have also heard that HH to Leigh is a done deal....anyone with any updates on that score?
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