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| Quote ="Wirecutter"
Come on Red John wasn't last year a transitional year also? How many more years are we going to use that ole chestnut?
What kind of message is this? Put a couple of good displays in week 26 and 27 and everything will be cushty?
The bookies had as down for 7th place this year and anything less than 8th would be an epic failure in my eyes.'"
Last year was transitional in the sense of building a new squad and the structures to go around that squad. This year is transitional in the sense of getting that squad to gel, at least for the early part of the season. 2015 will be transitional in the sense that the squad will be transitioning to not being in a transitional phase.
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| Quote ="Wirecutter"Talking about pressure. It makes me laugh how some people are now suggesting it could be the Doc's fault for making them want to win too much for him. Who's fault will it be next? The kit washer or the coach driver?
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The one I find most comical is the suggestion that he shouldn't comment on poor performances, like last week. Why not? Did the team not realise they had a stinker until he opened his mouth?
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| It's his baby so I guess he has every right to pass comment.
One thing I do like about the Doc is that I think he pretty much mirrors the fans feelings.
His enthusiasm is infectious to many but I suspect increasingly not in the corridors of power.
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| Quote ="Wirecutter"I know I couldn't believe what I was reading. All's not lost we just need to find some consistent form soon or the pressure will intensify. I remember it took Tony Smith about 4-5 games before he turned Warrington around.'"
Re Warrington , I didn't remember so I checked ,
Warrington Finished 10th , in Smith's 1st season in charge 12 wins from 27 ,
they lost their 1st 5 Sl Games & 6 of their last 8.
What Saved Smiths bacon was their CC win with Lee Briers drop goal win in the Qtr final against Hull Kr which turned their season around .
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| Quote ="middleman"Re Warrington , I didn't remember so I checked ,
Warrington Finished 10th , in Smith's 1st season in charge 12 wins from 27 ,
they lost their 1st 5 Sl Games & 6 of their last 8.
What Saved Smiths bacon was their CC win with Lee Briers drop goal win in the Qtr final against Hull Kr which turned their season around .'"
What you haven't mentioned is Tony Smith didn't start the season as Warrington coach in 2009 so he didn't have the benefit of a pre season or to bring in his own players. Warrington hadn't won a single game when Smith took over and were at crisis point. Considering these facts he still won a few more than he lost (If you include cup games) and took them to Wembley and won the Challenge Cup for the first time in 35 years.
Now in my opinion (despite myself not warming to Smith's peculiar demeanor) I'd consider that a significant turnaround from the many false dawns the Warrington fans had to endure before that. Would you agree?
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| Last years league leaders: Played 7 Won 2.
Last years bottom side: Played 7 Won 3.
Just saying, like.
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| Quote ="Talent Spotter"Last years league leaders: Played 7 Won 2.
Last years bottom side: Played 7 Won 3.
Just saying, like.'"
It's a very fine line. A win tonight and next week at Bradford and everybody will be more than happy with the progress. Lose these two and the pressure will really grow with the three tough fixtures that follow.
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| I dont think there is any expectation on us to get a result tonight. Hull FC are a good team and they shown that last week. What we do need is an improvement on recent weeks. The bookies have us at +8 handicap which is realistic.
Bradford is a must win next week though, obviously.
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| Obviously I want FC to win tonight, but taking the bigger view I hope you have a great season. Whatever anyone thinks of the doc, he brings some passion to the game and deserves some success.
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"I dont think there is any expectation on us to get a result tonight. Hull FC are a good team and they shown that last week. What we do need is an improvement on recent weeks. The bookies have us at +8 handicap which is realistic.
Bradford is a must win next week though, obviously.'"
I certainly think there's an expectation on us to improve significantly on last weeks poor showing. I believe if we go to Hull tonight with the right mindset and start the game extremely well it will put the pressure back on them. If this happens we put ourselves in with a shout of coming away a morale boosting victory.
Let's not forget that despite not really clicking yet we have some players now that could potentially destroy Hull if they're firing. The 'on' switch has to be pressed at some point, why not tonight in a big game.
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| Simply cannot believe the goings on with Noble.
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| Quote ="EFCWARRIOR"Will be sacked soon...he's lost the dressing room
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Great shout by the way. See no reason to dispute your reasons why he's left either, players bemused, lost the dressing room and Noble probably feels he's taken them as far as he can.
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| Quote ="EFCWARRIOR"Will be sacked soon...he's lost the dressing room
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Not sure if this was a genuine post but you were right in your prediction that his tenure at Salford would soon be over
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| Quote ="EFCWARRIOR"Will be sacked soon...he's lost the dressing room
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As predicted ...
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| Quote ="Enfield Exile"Not sure if this was a genuine post but you were right in your prediction that his tenure at Salford would soon be over'"
It was genuine... I don't take any pleasure in this, i am a Wigan Fan but i do have a connection and liking for Salford and would love them to be challenging for honours, if Wigan are gonna finish 2nd then i want it to be salford that finish 1st...Truth
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| Quote ="EFCWARRIOR"As predicted ...
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Moley tweeted before saying the players were not happy. When pushed about rumours that Noble had lost the dressing room he said he'd only lost some of the players. Great.
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| Bobby Goulding will be coach at Salford.....you heard it first here from a Wire fan in the know!!!
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| Quote ="Walshovski"Moley tweeted before saying the players were not happy. When pushed about rumours that Noble had lost the dressing room he said he'd only lost some of the players. Great.'"
Great so now the dressing room is split, I can't figure who would be anti Noble really as he's pretty unoffensive.
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| Quote ="Walshovski":23iy5qtjMoley tweeted before saying the players were not happy. When pushed about rumours that Noble had lost the dressing room he said he'd only lost some of the players. Great.'" of the players were not happy , but i do know there was unrest which was affecting performance....
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| Koukash now hinting about signings from rugby union.
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| Quote ="Michigan red"Great so now the dressing room is split, I can't figure who would be anti Noble really as he's pretty unoffensive.'"
I really like Noble, as you say he is unoffensive, he is a very nice bloke who has strong principles which i agree with, but at the end of the day his man management of the players at Salford was wrong
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| Depending on who it is I don't have an issue with RU signings.
I said it in another thread it's his baby so he can do with as he will, would hope though that at the end of all this we come out stronger and not closer to a return of being one of the biggest laughing stocks in the league.
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| Quote ="EFCWARRIOR"I really like Noble, as you say he is unoffensive, he is a very nice bloke who has strong principles which i agree with, but at the end of the day his man management of the players at Salford was wrong'"
Wrong in what way?
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| Quote ="Walshovski"Wrong in what way?'"
Bad communication...Players need individual coaching, he didn't do that
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| Quote ="EFCWARRIOR"I don't know how many [or who o=#FF0000f the players were not happy , but i do know there was unrest which was affecting performance....'"
the ones that were unhappy at how much some under performers were on. agents/nobby go figure
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