For gods sake don't mention Turf !!

it'll set people off again .
But you're right there are positives from watching at SCS., I made a early decision to abandon the terrace for the better view in the West stand , appreciate calls for more rational pricing on the south stand. and there is work to do to get the balance right .
However some of the complaints doing the rounds I'm surprised Salford aren't marketing a hair shirt to go with the replica tops ..

Yeah I'd say you probably are, but that doesn’t surprise me to be honest. Going to a home game doesn’t have the same ‘exciting game day’ feel as going to the Willows did and never will IMO and I live round the corner so don’t have to travel anymore!

Thats because you have memories at the willows in 20+ years when we have won epic encounters/cup wins/ horrible defeats and made some memories I think you will feel the same as the willows

Oh come on people - let's look at some realpolitik over all this

How many of you were at Pendelton Church last December? At that moment most of us leaving that meeting didn't think we'd have a club at all.

The new stadium is a fact, the Willows no longer exists so for better or for worse that IS now our reality. Yes there are some annoyances (apart from some of the posters on here) but can you not see that things are improving?

Let's list the plusses for once not the minuses!

1 We have an owner with cash and vision
2 We have the best English coach in SL
3 We have a management team that speaks to the fans and listens
4 We have quality players wanting to sign (Darryl Griffin - excellent)
5 We're not Warrington



Think positive - Onwards and Upwards!!!!!

Well said

Pretty certain fans probably thought the same when attending the Willows after New Barns.

I'm willing to bet when we start to make new memories at Barton that people will change tack.

I do though think that a more Salford feel to the concourses and other areas would help matters and that if/when the Doc gets a share in the stadium steps will be made to begin that process.

Think the problem with the new place is that a lot of the people who stood in the shed have moved to the West Stand (myself included) to get the view from the side of the pitch. Feels like we've split into two groups. Home games just don't have the same feel about them anymore.

I think it's due to the lack of Uncle Joe's mintballs advertisements in the stadium.

There's loads of really sad, negative, depressive and miserable barstewards on here . . . . and I'm one of them now.



Be warned its very contagious!!

COME ON SALFORD

, , COME ON SALFORD

But you don't have to preach to the posters on here, 99% go to games anyway! Try telling them that who don't attend down at the local pub and they'll laugh in your face! Sad but true!

Spoiled with success following local premier league football teams?

Yes. But then again, I'm not surprised in the slightest.



Even Koukash has had bad things to say about the ground. Maybe, just maybe, there's a lot of constructive criticism going around based on people's personal experiences of the ground. You're not suggesting that we ignore all that, are you? Because I would have thought the best way to improve the match day experience at Barton would be to look at what can be improved, rather than ignoring it. It is possible to be positive about what the club is trying to do whilst still being critical of current practice, be it from Salford RLFC or the Stadium Management Company.

The fact is the stadium is built in the wrong place, there is nothing to tempt fans to arrive early. If the weather is inclement you are resigned to either going in the stadium bars (which i am told by Salford fans arn't the best) or sitting in the stadium,which quite frankly is a cold souless place much like all the new stadiums.
Quite where they could have built it is a tough one. The fact it was moved so far from the heartland of core support must also be a factor.

A team that is winning and challenging will undoubtedly assist and it may be a case of sitting patiently.

There's acres of empty land east of Weaste. The demolition business is where it's at!

I agree.
An example is the switch to free parking,he's listened to the fans and read what's on here.
I'm very much up for the constructive criticism and the club or stadium company should read it carefully and pick out the practical and cost effective ideas.
BUT,we are where we are so whingeing that its not the Willows, or the location is bad ,is hardly constructive.
Koukash and his staff are working hard to improve everything and they should be applauded and supported in doing that

I just think a lot of people have written this season off from the start so are saving their £20 a match to watch a pretty poor team and are looking ahead to next year. There'll be a decent jump in attendances start of next season and then hopefully a few decent results will get things moving. This season feels like a long pre-season warm up for the real thing - if that makes sense.

Perhaps some view it as soulless because there aren't enough souls attending. Closing the stand behind the posts and having it completely empty makes it look worse. I know it will be a cost cutting measure by the SMC but it looks terrible seeing a whole end void of people.

Just over the river is a great catchment area for Salford to take advantage of. I work in Urmston, and so far have seen nothing about the stadium or Salford reds anywhere!!! Nothing in the local press, billboards, through the post, in Urmston... Salford city reds do not exist!! And there is Flixton, Davyhulme, Woodsend, which can also be included. Mr Koukash desperately needs to completely cover this area with leaflets, put some billboards up, get players into the local schools, full page adverts in the local press (not only men and metro). These areas are approx one mile away from the stadium, yet the people who live near where I work know nothing about you.

Matt

Edited for accuracy btw good luck tonight

Crikey Uncle Rico, for a fan from one of the better teams in the league, you sure do spend a lot of time on our board. I wonder, do you go over and pass your smug comments on Castleford's and London's forums as much?

Dreary me Derek sort yourself out lad aren't visitors welcome? Smug? BTW my tongue in cheek post was a RESPONSE to a bit of anti Warrington banter from Barton Flyer so I feel that I'm allowed a right to reply.

In answer to your question though, I don't regularly post on Castleford's board nor London's for lots of reasons in the main being that I don't live in either place, or know any of their fans that I'm not that interested in those clubs beyond match days

Back again so soon?

Says the guy that responded quicker than Jack Flash. I think we'll leave it there Derek as you're so....rivetting

So, in what way is this different to just about every other season Salford have been in SL?

Are you saying Reds fans will only show up whe you actually have a competitive team???

That's a very poor excuse, and this kind of thinking will only blinker you from addressing the real issues.

I am pretty sure Dr K is much more focused and proactive in his plans for the club.

We don't almost fold and have the spine of our team leave every pre-season though. That's Chorlton Red's point.