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Quote ="theredshed"I am not sure about Adrian Lam. His St George U20's team aren't exactly setting the world on fire with just 3 wins from 8 this year. He also quit as national coach of Papua New Guinea just before the four nations without any explanation which is concerning. After all the recent coaching problems can our club really afford to appoint a head coach that takes his 'bat and ball home' without warning or reason at a crucial time? No!'"
Well, as you say, there was no explanation as to why he left the PNG job so to then go and suggest that he took his bat and ball home is just a tad ironic. However, overlooking this comment, I shall answer the first part of your question and say that over the past couple of weeks, Lam's Toyota cup side, in true Bennett fashion has gone back to basics and has started to win games. 3 on the bounce is possible and most probable this Friday.
www.dragons.com.au/default.aspx? ... y&id=36428
Also, when Bennett arrived before the 2010 season, many Toyota Cup players were either axed or promoted thus leaving what was a highly successful 2009 Toyota Cup side with a lot of rebuilding to do. If there recent form is anything to go by then I'd suggest that Lam appears to be doing a decent job. Best wait and see how he gets on over the next few weeks 'ey?
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Quote ="theredshed"I am not sure about Adrian Lam. His St George U20's team aren't exactly setting the world on fire with just 3 wins from 8 this year. He also quit as national coach of Papua New Guinea just before the four nations without any explanation which is concerning. After all the recent coaching problems can our club really afford to appoint a head coach that takes his 'bat and ball home' without warning or reason at a crucial time? No!'"
Well, as you say, there was no explanation as to why he left the PNG job so to then go and suggest that he took his bat and ball home is just a tad ironic. However, overlooking this comment, I shall answer the first part of your question and say that over the past couple of weeks, Lam's Toyota cup side, in true Bennett fashion has gone back to basics and has started to win games. 3 on the bounce is possible and most probable this Friday.
www.dragons.com.au/default.aspx? ... y&id=36428
Also, when Bennett arrived before the 2010 season, many Toyota Cup players were either axed or promoted thus leaving what was a highly successful 2009 Toyota Cup side with a lot of rebuilding to do. If there recent form is anything to go by then I'd suggest that Lam appears to be doing a decent job. Best wait and see how he gets on over the next few weeks 'ey?
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| Quote ="Red Preacher"Well, as you say, there was no explanation as to why he left the PNG job so to then go and suggest that he took his bat and ball home is just a tad ironic. '"
If he leaves a national coaching post without giving a reason for the decision it suggests to me he's left under problematical circumstances. Lam did receive a lot of criticism from many suggesting he should have quit after the four nations rather than deserting his players whilst in preparation for an International tournament.
I respect he's your choice but he wouldn't be for me sorry.
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| Quote ="theredshed"If he leaves a national coaching post without giving a reason for the decision it suggests to me he's left under problematical circumstances. Lam did receive a lot of criticism from many suggesting he should have quit after the four nations rather than deserting his players whilst in preparation for an International tournament.
I respect he's your choice but he wouldn't be for me sorry.'"
That is if he didn't give a reason. He may have done and it may have been kept under-wraps. Who knows? I would imagine that the PNG job is a tough task for any coach considering the sociological problems in PNG. It'd be pure conjecture to suggest anything specific but needless to say, it wouldn't be a huge surprise if there was more than meets the eye with the events leading to the impromptu resignation of Lam from the PNG job.
Since the four nations, there has been little to suggest that Lam lacks the longevity required for the new coaching job at Salford. However, as I've stated elsewhere, a wholesale change in the set up of the club, for me, is a neccessity. Simply signing a new coach will hardly make us the champion side we wish to be. Perhaps a debate best reserved for another day.
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| Quote ="theredshed"I am not sure about Adrian Lam.
He also quit as national coach of Papua New Guinea just before the four nations without any explanation which is concerning. After all the recent coaching problems can our club really afford to appoint a head coach that takes his 'bat and ball home' without warning or reason at a crucial time? No!'"
This is the reason.
But in May (2010) Lam made an emotional plea to the PNG Rugby League (PNGRL) to stop internal feuds, bickering and politicking other wise he would step down as Kumuls' coach.
In Sept 2010 he stepped down to ' focus on supporting the finals bid for his NRL team '
Quote ="JoyDivision"Well it ain't Nobby, he's gone to Fax'"
Halifax deny Noble reports:-
May 5th
Halifax have labelled reports linking the club with former Great Britain, Bradford and Wigan coach Brian Noble as "pure speculation".
The club have refused to comment on the rumours other than to refer to them as "pure speculation" in a statement on their website by chairman Michael Steele.
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| Quote ="middleman"This is the reason.
But in May (2010) Lam made an emotional plea to the PNG Rugby League (PNGRL) to stop internal feuds, bickering and politicking other wise he would step down as Kumuls' coach.
In Sept 2010 he stepped down to ' focus on supporting the finals bid for his NRL team '
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It was publisised that those problems were resolved long before he actually quit but who knows? If he wanted to make a statement he could have made a much bigger one by seeing the job through and leaving after the four nations.
The point I'm trying to make is can we afford to take a gamble on a coach that's shown a temperamental side to his nature having quit before due to issues with other people within the organisation? What Salford need now is strong minded coach that has the mental toughness to instill discipline and direction whilst providing some long term stability and progression within the club. Let's face it the Salford coaches job comes with pressure and stress and I just question if he is the right candidate to see it through if or when the chips are down. You only have to look at what happened to McRae with all his years of coaching experience.
This is a post copied from a PNG Sports forum on June 11th last year:-
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As for Lam quitting, we dont need you anyway, your a disgrace. Every time you come up here you run around Lamana Gold Club drunk to your eyeballs acting like a teenager on heat. You didnt even want to know about PNG until the Australian selectors overlooked you.
You come up here with your big ideas and then you camp the local based KUMULS down at Goldie and feed them tin fish and rice whilst the Australian based players are sleeping at Crown Plaze and eating steak. Thats not how you coach a Team Mr Lam. you train them and camp them alltogether as a team. Then on game day you depend on your assistant coaches to get you out of the mess and make you look good.
We dont need Adrian Lam, we have John and Richard Wagambie ready and waiting. Those of you who forget, John Wagambie coached the most suscessfull Kumuls team ever. And he ate, drank and slept with the team.[/i
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| And Millward says it's not him
Leigh coach Ian Millward dismisses Salford rumours
[urlhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/super_league/salford/9476321.stm[/url
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| Quote ="BartonFlyer"And Millward says it's not him
Leigh coach Ian Millward dismisses Salford rumours
[urlhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/super_league/salford/9476321.stm[/url'"
He also [isaid[/i that he didn't apply for the assistant role last year - fingers crossed though.
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| The General,say's in the M.E.N, we should be looking at a coach like Nathan Brown. Not somebody who
just wants to get experience,and whoever they get should sort the club out from top to bottom.We must be in a bad
way,If he's come to that conclusion,in four months,if that's the case,what has McRae and Simms been doing.Should'n
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| Quote ="lancetodd"The General,say's in the M.E.N, we should be looking at a coach like Nathan Brown. Not somebody who
just wants to get experience,and whoever they get should sort the club out from top to bottom.We must be in a bad
way,If he's come to that conclusion,in four months,if that's the case,what has McRae and Simms been doing.Should'n
they have been doing that.'"
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| Quote ="Iain"He also [isaid[/i that he didn't apply for the assistant role last year - fingers crossed though.'"
That would Salford through and through wouldn't it, turn a coach for the assitants role and then given the head coaches roll less than a year later.
For me the one dangerous aspect if Millward did get the job would be his friendship- with Simms. For me I could only see that leading to problems I'm affraid.
Has anyone got any indication which candidates have approached the club rather that the paper talk we keep getting? As the more I think about Dunneman the more I think he would be the ideal candidate but not certain if he has applied or not.
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| I don't think anybody has formally applied [iyet[/i. I think Wrigley and Veivers are expected to though.
I would love Dunneman to apply though. I first mentioned him a while ago and he'd still be my first choice. He's been an assistant since he left us and the head coach of a Queensland cup team I think. That said, I don't know much about Wrigley.
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| I understand the affection for Dunneman but to be honest I can't understand the appeal if you think about it in the cold light of day.He is still in the learning the job phase for me and other assistants mentioned have had longer,high level experience.Dunneman maybe a good No.2 for now.
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| I think Dunemann is an obvious candidate considering the leadership he showed whilst at Salford in 2006. It was no coincidence that when he returned to Australia we went totally backwards from making the playoffs to getting relegated the following year. I heard many within the club say that his off field presence was immense and offered even more than his on field presence.
I just feel it would be a great move if the club could attract him back. Dunemann has experience working as No2 at Newcastle Knights under Rick Stone and understands our club and how to make it tick. Perhaps with Wayne Bennett joining the Knights in 2012 his position may be vulnerable and he see's his future elsewhere?
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| [url=http://www.code13rugbyleague.com/2011/04/30/blog-stop-press-and-take-note/George Riley blog[/url
Quote ...On an entirely different note I wish Shaun McRae all the very best as he leaves Salford, and hope to see him in good health very soon. I jokingly texted Brian Noble this week to ask him if he fancied Shaun’s job and he didn’t reply..'"
Quite like George Riley's input this is telling , At least Riley is looking forward to being in Salford !
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| Quote ="shandybass"I understand the affection for Dunneman but to be honest I can't understand the appeal if you think about it in the cold light of day.He is still in the learning the job phase for me and other assistants mentioned have had longer,high level experience.Dunneman maybe a good No.2 for now.'"
5 years as an assistant coach/Queensland cup head coach + a long playing career as a playmaker/organiser. I don't see why its any bigger a gamble than Wrigley.
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| How would you guys feel if Matty Elliott got the job.
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| How would you guys feel if Matty Elliott got the job
ANSWER - NOT VERY HAPPY!!
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| Quote ="GiantMisterE"How would you guys feel if
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| Well The glorious league freak rates him highly (not!)
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| Some pretty good names here!
The available coaches right now include Australian test coach Tim Sheens, NSW State Of Origin coach Ricky Stuart, Steve Folkes, Brad Fittler, Rick Stone, Jason Taylor and Daniel Anderson.
Would love to see someone like Fittler at Salford.
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| The Chairman,quoted in the M.E.N,that he mite have to go to Australia,to sort out a coach.Dose this mean the
applicants are not very appetising,anyway I wish him luck, dose Wrigley think three years with us,mite not look to good on his C.V.Alas It looks like Anderson could be going to Widnes.He should have plenty of money there.
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| and?
by the way a "mite" means other things
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| Steady, as we do not know who is [uapplying[/u for the job.
The story is reminding me of a similar one about Anthony Minnichello and Craig Gower.
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| We have to get the coach for are club right so I am glad there taking some time over this. We need a coach that has good pedigree which I felt Brian noble had . I know most of you don't like him but he got every club he coached into the play offs. I would like to mention a candidate to you that know one as mentioned and he played for us. Tell me what you think guys I would like to see john pendlebury. Give him a chance he as learnt under some good coaches
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