Yes the Giants Davy only own 60% of the stadium. The council own the rest.

At the Galpharm we tend to watch the game but you go ahead and watch those who are standing.

i know it is mate. it was easy to copy and paste

I'm disputing it, The Willows is far from a dump.

no you spend all the game shouting "Forward"

Not that far though, I'd say a couple of miles at most.

We can do both, we can multi task

I don't go to a game to see the facilities, I go to watch the rugby.

And I think you'll find the vast majority of Salford fans are more than happy to stand up to watch the game. We don't all view being confined to an uncomfortable plastic seat as being a superior way of viewing the match.

I too go to see the game rather than the facilities. However good facilities do make it a better experience. Poor facilities undermine things.

I know the seats at the Willows are uncomfortable. However my seat at the Galpharm is comfortable. The leg room is good and the view is unrestricted.

Please provide the link showing what the vast majority of Salford fans want. It should be an interesting read.

If the weather is bad on Sunday you can always pop outside at half time and stand around getting wet, If that is important to you.

HERE:

Along with the best seated views in the country the City of Salford Stadium will also be home to the first deliberately built standing section in the UK since the Taylor Report changed the landscape of sport. Other new stadia have standing sections, but they are just basically seated areas where the seats have been removed and crush barriers installed. Ours will be very different, and is there in response to the fans request for such a section. We aim to please.

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Do they? Really? Funny, I've never EVER thought at the Willows, Knowsley Road or any National League grounds that we've been to that my experience had been undermined or made to be less enjoyable because of the facilities around me. Jesus, I've watched many sporting events stood on a glorified park pitch and never felt like it had lessened my experience.

It's what happens on the pitch that's important. Last year we beat Leigh at Hilton Park and got p*ss wet through in the process. I couldn't see the last twenty minutes because I couldn't keep my glasses clear. However, the atmosphere, the result and the chaotic celebrations for the tries meant that, in the pub afterwards, people were saying it was one of the most enjoyable away games they'd ever been to.



Funny, on the few occasions I've actually sat in a seat at the Galpharm I've struggled slightly with leg room and had a numb ar*e after about twenty minutes. At the Willows I can stand up, move around without disrupting those around me and, believe it or not, see the full pitch.



Funnily enough, it's never really been discussed on here. However, when the discussions first came up about our new stadium the main thing that most people came back to was wanting a standing area at the new ground. Also, see the point I made above about the Leigh game.



That's not the point people are making. Of course, if there's a choice between standing under cover and standing out in the rain, you'll move under cover. That's a given. But to say a shiny plastic stadium enhances your enjoyment of the day ahead of what happens out on the pitch? Ridiculous.

Cant for the life of me work out how you come to that conclusion?

Anyway no matter, the seats at your place are more uncomfortable pal as everytime I have been there I have left with severley bruised shins from them obstructing my standing position!

Wow. I have touched a nerve. So you have no evidence that you reflect the views of ' the vast majority'. No surprise there.

I know that sitting under cover with an unrestricted view seems to bother some people. Tough.

The guy who claimed we were charging our own supporters £10 and you £16.50 + lied and the guy who wanted to compare our matchday costs with your ST costs looked foolish.

Your need to first misrepresent my comments and then challenge your version is rather dreary. probably expecting you to be coherent is too much.

Ooh dear. that is upsetting.

The family stand at Salford is the seating area behind the posts which is undercover and has an unrestricted view.

Well if you don't see that as a coherent reply then I'd love to know what constitutes one. Would you have preferred it if I'd just posted "f*ck off you sheep sh*gging c*nt"?

The comment about the ten pound ticket was daft and should have been dropped by you long ago. The fact is that you've continued to take the argument on and, when challenged about part of your post, have come back with no real argument other than "oh, you can't prove that part, therefore you're wrong."

Our new stadium was planned with a standing section. A large section of our away support stands up at away games, whether there's a choice or we are in an all seater stadium. The vast majority of our supporters choose to stand at the Willows when there's plenty of empty seats in the covered family stand seating and the covered main stand seating.

If that's not coherent enough for you to understand, then I apologise. But short of ramming the point home by posting the same thing over and over, which would get rather boring (a bit like your sitting under cover with an unrestricted view nonsense, which sparked this debate in the first place) and nobody wants that, now, do they?

So you are moving to a far higher proportion of seats under cover with unrestricted views. Excellent.

I gave you the evidence in my previous post, try reading it first, but why you can't just take it as is, is your problem

With a standing area that will fit most, if not all, of our usual home support.

new to rugby league are you?
wanting all seater stadia, which push prices through the roof and means a lot of people are put off going because they can not afford it.
Standing means less maintenance for the ground therefore less cost.

That I bore someone like you is of little consequence. Your story about getting wet at Hilton Park was very moving. So much so that I had to pop on my flat hat and take a walk with the wippets. Your need to go from your personal exprience to generalise for the 'masses' is indeed sloppy thinking.

In your last post you wrote about your skins. It was all rather distressing.

Well I can't wait for my annual trip to the Wembley of the North...do they have an official stadium tour like all the major stadia of the world??

I can't wait to see their numerous and hard-earned trophies - Best View From A Seat In SL Award 2007 and 2008, Most Comfortable Seats In SL 2008, Most People Who Actually Want To Sit Down Shield 2005, 06, 07, 08 and the hugely prestigious We've Got Roofs On All Of Our Stands So Nerr trophy 2006, 07, 08...not to mention the newest one - the Bizarrest Pricing Policy Award 2009 (who's idea was the 16 pounds AND 50p??? why not 17 or 16??)

All of these trophies and awards knock St Helens and Leeds' trophies (actually won on the field) into a cocked hat for me.

Don't forget the prestigeous "most unrestricted views plate" they won in 2006 and 2008.

Not new at all thanks.