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| Quote ="Dettoriman"I have come across him a few times in the owners bars, One notable time at Epsom where he walked in like he was better than everyone else. I don't like his attitude, And this stretches to his disregard for the rules in RL.
(I did however watch an Attheraces feature on him on how his family lost all and he built himself up into a world class surgeon, And have to respect him for that)'"
A world class surgeon?
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| Quote ="Dettoriman"...... a world class surgeon.....'"
Have you got the right Doctor? As we all know he's a GP from St Helens
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| Quote ="BartonFlyer"Have you got the right Doctor? As we all know he's a GP from St Helens
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GP/ Surgeon whats the difference (Don't answer that).... The feature on him was years ago ha - either way it was about how his family lost everything and he has built himself up from nothing - That I commend him for.
But his attitude is what I question (And don't mind admitting part of the dislike is bitterness he is taking our best player)
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| Quote ="Dettoriman"I have come across him a few times in the owners bars, One notable time at Epsom where he walked in like he was better than everyone else. I don't like his attitude, And this stretches to his disregard for the rules in RL.
(I did however watch an Attheraces feature on him on how his family lost all and he built himself up into a world class surgeon, And have to respect him for that)'"
World Class Surgeon? I do hope I've missed something here.
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| Quote ="Ave It!"World Class Surgeon? I do hope I've missed something here.'"
As said, I got it wrong, It was about 3 years ago. The point I was making was I commended him although I didn't particularly like him, On building himself up after his family were bombed and they lost everything. (And its for this reason why everyone who says "Oh, He'll be gone this time next year" - I argue back that he has never failed before - And won't be starting now)
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| How many pages of absolute drivel and insults will this topic be allowed to take ?
Why is it that Salford can sign Hot Sauce from Melbourne;be linked via the press with Neville Costigan at Newcastle Knights,Hock at Parramatta/Wigan/Widnes,SBW at Sydney,Scott Moore at North Queensland Cowboys and a few players at New Zealand Warriors and not one,not one,person from Australia or New Zealand has come onto this forum,or any other,and disgracefully insulted Dr Koukash ?
You Castleford posters are letting your club down,big style.
Maybe Chase wants to win silverware and is no longer content with MoM awards.
Alternatively he wouldn't be the first player to [url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1080044/Theyve-got-rotten-teeth-need-bath-just-watch-footie--Rugby-star-slams-Yorkshire-town-worst-place-earth.htmldislike the place and the people[/url
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| Quote ="Red-Devils-PAW"Maybe Chase wants to win silverware and is no longer content with MoM awards'"
Why is he going to Salford then?
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Quote ="Red-Devils-PAW"How many pages of absolute drivel and insults will this topic be allowed to take ?
Why is it that Salford can sign Hot Sauce from Melbourne;be linked via the press with Neville Costigan at Newcastle Knights,Hock at Parramatta/Wigan/Widnes,SBW at Sydney,Scott Moore at North Queensland Cowboys and a few players at New Zealand Warriors and not one,not one,person from Australia or New Zealand has come onto this forum,or any other,and disgracefully insulted Dr Koukash ?
You Castleford posters are letting your club down,big style.
Maybe Chase wants to win silverware and is no longer content with MoM awards.
Alternatively he wouldn't be the first player to [url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1080044/Theyve-got-rotten-teeth-need-bath-just-watch-footie--Rugby-star-slams-Yorkshire-town-worst-place-earth.htmldislike the place and the people[/url'"
He definitely doesn't dislike the place and people ! Silverware maybe (Surely would have chose a bigger club than Salford though). Money to support his family, Definitely.
youtu.be/JPU0araLY4Q
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Quote ="Red-Devils-PAW"How many pages of absolute drivel and insults will this topic be allowed to take ?
Why is it that Salford can sign Hot Sauce from Melbourne;be linked via the press with Neville Costigan at Newcastle Knights,Hock at Parramatta/Wigan/Widnes,SBW at Sydney,Scott Moore at North Queensland Cowboys and a few players at New Zealand Warriors and not one,not one,person from Australia or New Zealand has come onto this forum,or any other,and disgracefully insulted Dr Koukash ?
You Castleford posters are letting your club down,big style.
Maybe Chase wants to win silverware and is no longer content with MoM awards.
Alternatively he wouldn't be the first player to [url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1080044/Theyve-got-rotten-teeth-need-bath-just-watch-footie--Rugby-star-slams-Yorkshire-town-worst-place-earth.htmldislike the place and the people[/url'"
He definitely doesn't dislike the place and people ! Silverware maybe (Surely would have chose a bigger club than Salford though). Money to support his family, Definitely.
youtu.be/JPU0araLY4Q
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| Imagine how upset the Cas fans are going to be when they find out that Daryl Clark has signed for us as well LOL
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| 'Castleford Till I Die': that is a shamefully abhorent statement, and one which you seem unwilling to retract.
If that is the sort of comment you feel is acceptable on a forum set up to discuss matters related to the sport of rugby league, may I politely ask that you don't visit us again.
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| Quote ="JobsForTheWives"Imagine how upset the Cas fans are going to be when they find out that Daryl Clark has signed for us as well LOL'"
Nah. We know he's signed for Wire. And will be loaned back to us next season.
We will have no problem with that. He's young. It's to further his career going to one of the biggest clubs in the league. His career will benefit from it. Chase doesn't need a move for his career.
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| Absolutely awful thread this. 2 sets of fans giving it the big one over each other over a transfer that may or may not happen.
Why we have to have some fans goading the Cas lot over this i'll never know. It's happened to us so many times in the recent past that we should know better. I've also never seen a worse reaction to a potential transfer than some of the Cas lot on here and their own forum either. Genuine discussion has been thrown aside for petty insults and it's quite frankly embarrassing.
I think were going to see quite a lot of insults thrown our way from opposition fans now whilst were looking to sign some players and attempt to increase our standing. Any player were linked with by the press or fans seems to be a reason for them to have a go at our crowds or Koukash himself. It's absolutely petty but looks like something were going to have to put up with for a while on here.
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| Quote ="Dettoriman"We will have no problem with that. He's young. It's to further his career going to one of the biggest clubs in the league. His career will benefit from it. Chase doesn't need a move for his career.'"
Who are you say Chase doesnt need a move for his career? Salford are a) offering more money and b) showing more ambition than Castleford with the signings we are making/set to make. It's a no brainer with regards to career progression.
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| Quote ="Red-Devils-PAW"Why is it that Salford can sign Hot Sauce from Melbourne;be linked via the press with Neville Costigan at Newcastle Knights,Hock at Parramatta/Wigan/Widnes,SBW at Sydney,Scott Moore at North Queensland Cowboys and a few players at New Zealand Warriors and not one,not one,person from Australia or New Zealand has come onto this forum,or any other,and disgracefully insulted Dr Koukash ?'"
Maybe not many Storm , Knights, Parra, Cowboys or NZ fans visit the Scarlet Turkey ?
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| I don't understand why any Salford fan would keep rising to the drivel that is being posted by cas or any other supporter on these and other forums. Unfortunately with the large investment made by our ambitious owner, comes a great deal of envy from other clubs possibly in a similar position to ourselves only 9 months ago. Now as a Salford fan we are going to get green eyed monsters, you always hate upwards in sport - we have to accept it as the norm from here on in.
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"Who are you say Chase doesnt need a move for his career? Salford are a) offering more money and b) showing more ambition than Castleford with the signings we are making/set to make. It's a no brainer with regards to career progression.'"
cant really argue with that. Out of Castleford and Salford, only one will be making the playoffs in 2014, with or without Rangi Chase.
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| Quote ="EHW"cant really argue with that. Out of Castleford and Salford, only one will be making the playoffs in 2014, with or without Rangi Chase.'"
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| Quote ="Cas Till I Die"But calling people inbred a repeatedly as well as other digs are just fine.... Only difference is what I said is the truth'"
But the incident you refer to has nothing to do with Salford, as mentioned above.
Whilst the pointless jibes about inbreeding are also pretty moronic, you've shown yourself up to be one vile human being. Well done.
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| I can't believe that this chump hasn't been booted off the site for that remark, clearly nothing but moronic.
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| Quote ="easthullwesty"Just a thought, and it is only a thought before people jump down my throat. Say Salford do decide to deliberately break the cap, I fail to see how this will help them. As the cap is a rule agreed to by the 14 super league members, if one team does it, surely they will all just do it. It would essentially mean that the clubs with the largest benefactors would spend the most getting the best players. It would come down to wealth. How wealthy is the good doctor? is he as wealthy as say, Simon Moran at wolves or Caddick at Leeds?
My point is, that if the cap is broken and it descends into a free for all, would Salford (and other clubs too) find themselves in a position whereby the value of the players has increased considerably because they can charge more for their services, whilst still being well down the pecking order in the super league heirachy?'"
With respect if you think some clubs aren't currently breaking the salary cap you are far too trusting. The mistake the Doctor made in my view was saying he would break it which he hasn't done yet but he's getting villainised for it more than those clubs that actually break it and cover it up.
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| Quote ="Karlos13"[i'Daniel Kemp @Dettoriman
The deal is done apparently. Hope Rangi enjoys playing in front of 2'000 people! #ThanksForTheMemories #KoukashIsACunt'[/i
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And to think he kisses his mother with that mouth and tongue.
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| Quote ="Red John"And to think he kisses his mother with that mouth and tongue.'"
That is quite funny...
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| Why do so many people actually believe the salary cap is a watertight system that can’t be beaten. All the RFL can do is an audit to check to see what a club has paid out to players. What measures are there to stop players having their wages enhanced by payments from third parties such as the businesses of owners/directors or sponsors? The RFL don’t have the authority to check players bank accounts or players families bank accounts.
I believe that in competitive professional sport people will naturally seek any advantage possible in the quest for success. So all this hysteria from opposing fans about the Doctor threatening to break the cap is rubbish because it's been happening for years now in Superleague.
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Full rules here: www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/rules/i ... section=E1
But to answer your question Wirecutter, most/all of the points you raise are covered in the rules - relavant bits below!! Mind you whether all clubs abide by them is I suspect open for discussion...
E1:5:2 Wherever salary or other benefits are expressed as being paid, payable or Accruing:
5.2.1 “to a Player”, such expression will be deemed to include payments that are paid, payable or Accrue:
to the Player himself;
for the benefit of the Player;
to, or for the benefit of, the spouse, partner, relative or trustee of the Player;
to, or for the benefit of, any person or business entity associated directly or indirectly with the Player;
in satisfaction of all or part of a debt owed by the Player;
to, or for the benefit of, a Licensed Player Agent or other Agent for services rendered on behalf of the Player;
at, or pursuant to, the direction of the Player; and/or
such other transactions as the RSCM determines should be treated as payments to a Player;
5.2.2 “by a Club”, such expression shall be deemed to include payments and other benefits that are paid, payable or Accrue:
by the Club itself;
on behalf of the Club;
by, or on behalf of, any person, business or entity associated or affiliated with the Club (including, without limitation, other sporting clubs, whether linked by common management, ownership, control, directorships, company officers, shareholding, undertaking or otherwise);
by, or on behalf of, a sponsor or other commercial partner of the Club; and/or
such other cases as the RSCM determines should be treated as payments by the Club
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Full rules here: www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/rules/i ... section=E1
But to answer your question Wirecutter, most/all of the points you raise are covered in the rules - relavant bits below!! Mind you whether all clubs abide by them is I suspect open for discussion...
E1:5:2 Wherever salary or other benefits are expressed as being paid, payable or Accruing:
5.2.1 “to a Player”, such expression will be deemed to include payments that are paid, payable or Accrue:
to the Player himself;
for the benefit of the Player;
to, or for the benefit of, the spouse, partner, relative or trustee of the Player;
to, or for the benefit of, any person or business entity associated directly or indirectly with the Player;
in satisfaction of all or part of a debt owed by the Player;
to, or for the benefit of, a Licensed Player Agent or other Agent for services rendered on behalf of the Player;
at, or pursuant to, the direction of the Player; and/or
such other transactions as the RSCM determines should be treated as payments to a Player;
5.2.2 “by a Club”, such expression shall be deemed to include payments and other benefits that are paid, payable or Accrue:
by the Club itself;
on behalf of the Club;
by, or on behalf of, any person, business or entity associated or affiliated with the Club (including, without limitation, other sporting clubs, whether linked by common management, ownership, control, directorships, company officers, shareholding, undertaking or otherwise);
by, or on behalf of, a sponsor or other commercial partner of the Club; and/or
such other cases as the RSCM determines should be treated as payments by the Club
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| I accept it's covered in the rules but it's open to abuse because the RFL can only audit the clubs accounts. If for instance a club sponsor pays a relative of a player do the RFL have the authority to audit the accounts of a sponsor or the bank account of a relative? No
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