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| Quote ="LoyalFan"
What worries me is the quote [i"It doesn't bother me. If the club wants to make a decision, they can make a decision."[/i
That to me sounds like a bloke who's not interested.'"
He came out with the same comments when we got hammered away at Cas earlier on in the season
He's a mard end of, maybe he got bullied at school or something!
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| Quote ="bezzerscr"For what it's worth i would like to see the clubs attitude change.
for as long as i can remember (i go back to the late seventies) we always sack the coach and then move on to the next one and then repeat it again every two years or so.
why for a change can't we look at other areas of the club and that includes us the fans and ask is everything how it should be for the coach and players to give their best because i for one am sick of the it;s only salford it don't matter attitude from everyone connected with the club.
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this is not a back or sack the coach post but a plea for everyone the fans the club officials and staff to have a look in the mirror and ask themselves am i doing everything i can to change the perception of the club because that is whats needed most at the willows'"
I remember a situation with Wakefield a few years ago. They were on a terrible losing run and went to Knowsley Road and got hammered.
After the match the Wakey fans made a quiet, orderly protest and refused to leave the ground. From memory the protest really hit home with the players/coaches and the effort and enthusiasm was raised to a different level from that point on.
I'm not suggesting that this is something Salford fans should consider but it's amazing how adversity can often work in your favour.
Roll on Friday and let's see which players put their bodies on the line after last weeks 2nd half debacle?
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| Why would Fitz be happy with the coach,he's out of the team and ,for the moment, correctly so.
Bomber can talk the talk but wins over Leeds, Saints ,Wire and Bradford surely show he can ,and has at previous clubs also, walked the walk.
Why not replace him with an inexperienced ,unproven coach.
Yep, lets go for it !!
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| Quote ="Teddington Red"Bomber can talk the talk but wins over Leeds, Saints ,Wire and Bradford surely show he can ,and has at previous clubs also, walked the walk.'"
How foolish of you?!
Apparently, when we lose, it's due to McRae's inept coaching, when we win, it's despite McRae's inept coaching.
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| Quote ="Fatboys Limb"It's funny how that's your attitude about Barker slagging our coach but you are always keen to leap to Barker's defence when he gets slagged off for being incompetent.
As a 'journalist' (sic) Barker should perhaps concentrate on reporting rather than giving us his opinion (or 'telling it like it is' as you put it).
It's equally amusing that "it's tough" if McRae can't handle it but that Barker spits his dummy out just as much when he gets slagged on here.
I always assumed 'LoyalFan' was a reference to Salford, rather than a poor quality RL reporter.
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I happen to think (rightly or wrongly) that Neil writes a lot of decent stuff. It's all about opinion... you have yours.. and a lot of it is valid... but people won't always agree with you. He keeps us in the news... and I struggle to think of another reporter who gives us as much coverage. Our couch however... I don't agree with... he's made a lot of bad calls... and I'm not the only one who thinks it.
Neil gets plenty of criticism from me... I however have the balls to say it to him over the phone or to his face rather than come on here spouting off about how poor he is. Agreed... he doesn't get it right all the time, but can anybody really question the article is question and tell me most of what he wrote wasn't spot on.
As for reporting and not opinion.... Much of sports journalism is based on opinions... I fail to see why a journalist cannot give an opinion. Almost every jouro in the MEN gives articles based on opinion... be in Salford, Man Utd, Man City, Bolton etc... it's that kind of newspaper.
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| Think everyone should seriously get off Mcraes back. He knows we dont have a good side thats why we are playing like we are , next season will be his first full proper Super League pre season, in that I mean last year all the good players available were already snapped up as we were in NL1 hafway thru the season. Everyone knows that deals are done mid season and I think we shouldnt feel too hard done by with the signings we did get. Henry , Cashmere, and Swain will all prove to be good signings imo and the truth is Fitzy isnt good enough, thats why hes out of the side and Im sure that Ratchford will get his time in the middle but for now as Mcrae has stated we are short of backs and honestly would you try Smith out on the wing / centre. If people say drop Smith , ok fair enough but bring in who? Jason Walton is a good player but not SL standard yet especially as a back, People say how about throwing Palfrey etc. in, listen Lewis Palfrey good player but not yet ready for Super League . I will accept comments from people eg why bother picking Myler etc but I think until Myler is a done deal announced etc and Mcrae has been very honest in all this then why shouldnt he play? Im havin my 2 pennys worth and I know people will shoot me down, but I go every week same as you and I think we should reserve judgement until end of next year see the progress thats been made as they say Cas were in our boat this time last year . Im no massive fan of Mcrae but I think he should be given the chance ofat least another year! After all the wins against Saints, Hull, Hudds, Wire, Leeds etc and a few close games as well is tons more than what was expected
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| I assume fatboys limb is supporting my point.
The coach is NOT the problem
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| Quote ="Red Joldsworth"Sorry mate, for having an opinion, are you one of these people who tell other fans what to sing in the shed, Do me a favour and die pal'"
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| Quote ="Teddington Red"The coach is NOT the problem'"
I think you will find that people at the club believe he has no interest. The players also have a lack of faith. Ultimately, the coach needs to pick the team, train / coach, and motivate the players. He certainly isn't coaching and training them anywhere near how he should be, he's not picking the best team, and he certainly isn't motivating. I ask again for somebody to get an honest opinion from a player. It's not happening for them. Simple fact is that if the coach isn't effective then he shouldn't be there. He's not the only one of the coaching staff who is under pressure. Things need shaking up and there are things happening.
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| Quote ="Red Joldsworth"Think everyone should seriously get off Mcraes back. He knows we dont have a good side thats why we are playing like we are , next season will be his first full proper Super League pre season, in that I mean last year all the good players available were already snapped up as we were in NL1 hafway thru the season. Everyone knows that deals are done mid season and I think we shouldnt feel too hard done by with the signings we did get. Henry , Cashmere, and Swain will all prove to be good signings imo and the truth is Fitzy isnt good enough, thats why hes out of the side and Im sure that Ratchford will get his time in the middle but for now as Mcrae has stated we are short of backs and honestly would you try Smith out on the wing / centre. If people say drop Smith , ok fair enough but bring in who? Jason Walton is a good player but not SL standard yet especially as a back, People say how about throwing Palfrey etc. in, listen Lewis Palfrey good player but not yet ready Super League . I will accept comments from people eg why bother picking Myler etc but I think until Myler is a done deal announced etc and Mcrae has been very honest in all this then why shouldnt he play? Im havin my 2 pennys worth and I know people will shoot me down, but I go every week same as you and I think we should reserve judgement until end of next year see the progress thats been made as they say Cas were in our boat this time last year . Im no massive fan of Mcrae but I think he should be given the chance ofat least another year! After all the wins against Saints, Hull, Hudds, Wire, Leeds etc and a few close games as well is tons more than what was expected'"
Will agree with you on the points raised after talking to certain people at the club over the last few days , a few players are leaving at the end of the season nothing to do with the club, just we cant match the money
being offered by others clubs, and the others the club dont feel that they can take us to the next level whitch is another topic.
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| Quote ="GT"Classy.'"
i know, one less gate reciept lost...
but, a fair point. our 'fans' come on here and slag everything the club does off. some reality please! we're a small club, we punch above our weight, and we're (kinda) where Cas where this time last year in terms of onfield ability...
i predicted a single win this year pre-season, how happy am i with what i've had!!!
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| Quote ="tall red" we cant match the money being offered by others clubs'"
it's all the coaches fault i tell thee...
wake up.
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| Quote ="DogPie"I think you will find that people at the club believe he has no interest. The players also have a lack of faith. Ultimately, the coach needs to pick the team, train / coach, and motivate the players. He certainly isn't coaching and training them anywhere near how he should be, he's not picking the best team, and he certainly isn't motivating. I ask again for somebody to get an honest opinion from a player. It's not happening for them. Simple fact is that if the coach isn't effective then he shouldn't be there. He's not the only one of the coaching staff who is under pressure. Things need shaking up and there are things happening.'"
How do you know all of this?
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| Quote ="DogPie"I think you will find that people at the club believe he has no interest. The players also have a lack of faith. Ultimately, the coach needs to pick the team, train / coach, and motivate the players. He certainly isn't coaching and training them anywhere near how he should be, he's not picking the best team, and he certainly isn't motivating. I ask again for somebody to get an honest opinion from a player. It's not happening for them. Simple fact is that if the coach isn't effective then he shouldn't be there. He's not the only one of the coaching staff who is under pressure. Things need shaking up and there are things happening.'"
IM HERE
spoken to five players so far, would like to know who you have spoken too and hear what thay realy had to say, because someone is being lied too or making it up.
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| Quote ="LoyalFan"Neil gets plenty of criticism from me... I however have the balls to say it to him over the phone or to his face rather than come on here spouting off about how poor he is.'"
So, you're Berty Big Balls because he can disagree with your big chum Barker over the phone, but you "spout off" on here about McRae, rather than to his face?
Says a lot about you.
Having spoken to Barker in the past I have absolutely no desire to talk to him again because he has proved to be obnoxious, self-obsessed and can't complete a sentence without expletives (which, in my experience, is generally an indication of a low intelligence) - perhaps explains why you're 'bezzie mates' .
Quote ="LoyalFan"Our couch however... I don't agree with.'"
Sit elsewhere then. Try an armchair. Perhaps even the floor.
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| I get the feeling that all this 'He's done this/Not done this/Players disgruntled/Not disgruntled/Coach clueless/Coach fine etc etc' Is doing us all more harm than good.
It's all very well having an opinion and even arguing it if you feel like it, but some people really need to take a step back, breathe, and look at things subjectively.
There is very few reasoned people on here these days and they should look long and hard at why they say what they say. There's loads of passion and will. Great things for our fanbase to have, but only if they use it wisely.
This season has been a strange one, but we have already exceeded most realistic expectations from the pre-season. We seem to have forgot about reality and replaced it with unrealistic fatalism.
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| Quote ="GT"Classy.'"
You referring to my quote or your dog hairstyle
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| Quote ="Fatboys Limb"So, you're Berty Big Balls because he can disagree with your big chum Barker over the phone, but you "spout off" on here about McRae, rather than to his face?
Says a lot about you.
Having spoken to Barker in the past I have absolutely no desire to talk to him again because he has proved to be obnoxious, self-obsessed and can't complete a sentence without expletives (which, in my experience, is generally an indication of a low intelligence) - perhaps explains why you're 'bezzie mates'
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I spoke to McRae earlier this season... TO HIS FACE and told him exactly what I thought. He gave me his time (which I appreciated), I listened to what he had to say... and I still didn't agree with him... and told him... no big deal.
Quote ="Fatboys Limb"Sit elsewhere then. Try an armchair. Perhaps even the floor.
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| Quote ="Red Joldsworth"You referring to my quote or your dog hairstyle'"
I was actually referring to your mother.
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| Oh rite Ill remember that next time I see you carrot head
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| I thought all these sights were for fans to air there views and say how they feel about the club. People should be allowed to vent there frustration out and get things off there chest alot of stuff is said in the heat of the moment because we all want to see salford a better team we no this is not going to happen. things get tacken out of context alot of the time but i dont understand why everyone aint intitled to say how they feel as long as it does not go to far. at the end of the day if you cant comment on this there would be no point of a fouram
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