I personally think it's a great appointment; someone who wears their heart on their sleeve, looking to do their very best to promote the Club. I can't think of any reason why there's negativity surrounding this.

The problem is that "passion" and "enthusiasm" count for nothing in the real job market and listing them on a CV wont get you a job by default. Let alone a job which requires raising attendances at a club which has struggled to increase crowds for 30 years.

If we recruited on passion and enthusiasm alone we'd have Bobbie Goulding as our head coach which I seem to remember no one wanted.

This isn't personal, however it is individual criticism of Louise. Of all the appointments yesterday I believe hers is the most bizarre and unjustified yet it appears to have receicved the least scrutiny of all which i find odd.

Logically, common sense would dictate that there is more than just myself and JGR on this board who question this appointment. It seems odd that more arent questioning this. Then again, I suppose none of our fans want to lose a follower on twitter

Do you really know how ridiculous you sound, I am sure if it fails you will be here again just like a pop up! Give the girl a chance, cannot do any worse than your contribution which always strikes a negative note with SRD.

It isn't odd that others have a different opinion, sometimes the majority. JGR may have initially (read 12 months ago) have been critical, but his last post was far from it. So in reality, the only one on here so far being critical is you. You're entitled to have an opinion of course, and others are entitled to call that opinion nonsense or agree with you.

The interesting point here is that we've also just employed a new CEO who has passion, the Club's best interests, and no experience or qualifications for his post yet you don't seem to be pointing that out.

The fact that you felt you needed to bring up a 12 month old thread to have a little dig at someone who doesn't really deserve it at this point says more about your motives and drives than anything else.

Whatever happened to giving people a fair chance?

Pretty childish individual.

The interesting point here is that we've also just employed a new CEO who has passion, the Club's best interests, and no experience or qualifications for his post yet you don't seem to be pointing that out.

The fact that you felt you needed to bring up a 12 month old thread to have a little dig at someone who doesn't really deserve it at this point says more about your motives and drives than anything else.

Well said?

Get your head out of the clouds and wake up to reality.

As I've said, none of the appointments are perfect and some are as left field as the Silverwood appointment back in September. I think this is the most bizarre though and , not surprisingly, has received the less scrutiny.

Nothing against her personally, in fact she seems a really nice person. However this thread has shown me that I was right in my suspicion that people are unwilling to criticise giving they feel they know her.

My argumnet is that the debate should move from Blease and the new bloke in charge of salary cap and should include this appointment as well, which some seem they dont want to talk about.

Not strictly true. Granted whilst Bleasey hasn't held the position of CEO at another Super League club previously, I think his experience of 14+ years playing RL, coupled with his MSc in Management Practice and his experience of dealing with the administrative aspect of the game as an agent over the last few years equips him with sufficient ability to undertake the position and do so to a high standard. Credentials wise he is certainly a major improvement on anything we have had over the past 15+ years.

I'm sorry but this really p*sses me off.

I am sure even Louise herself wouldn't claim to be the most enthusiastic and devoted supporter, how do you even measure such a thing? Games attended? How many tweets you make? How many graphics you make for players? Louise is no different from us all here and the 2,000 or so die hards that turned up for the last few months of the season.

woo brake ease-off
"We've" made a few appointments and the good Dr. has decided to mix expertise and passion. Suddenly, in reacting to Mr M, we're jumping around and maybe getting shirty.
The proof of any pudding is in the eating: proof is an old English word meaning "test". We have a team, a club and a future ... something I was not believing we had at 16:28 exactly one month ago.
So let's ignore the M and reflect we seem to have a club that has passionate employees. That is well on the way to meeting the test.

Oh, to state "none of the appointments are perfect" re. N Roberts shows a similar acumen as Trump at a gay Pride march. M's destroyed his argument in one phrase. End of his bluster.

See you at Rochdale.

For what it's worth, I understand why it looks odd I've picked this appointment out but given the others were being readily discussed and this one (as I've said, the most bizarre of the lot) wasn't I thought it was going to require me to again put my ahead above the crowd to raise the subject.

I think I probably also raised it because the shambles of how it has come about stinks of buying someoens silence and money talking yet again. As I've said, she seems a lovely person but she has been a vocal critic of the way Koukash has run the club for over two years (hence this original thread) and has exchanged insults with him on many occasions. Suddenly, after one month of not criticising "The Good Doctor" and getting into his good books she land s a job with him and they are best friends?

The way Koukash is hasnt changed, nor even the way he uses social media or runs the club. Why the sudden change of heart? Principles/morales have been sacrificed for the sake of the job.

I believe Louise to be a lovely person who has a heart of gold, but I think we can all see from mile off that this will end in tears, unfortunately.

I have to agree JGR I have no beef with the person in question (didn't even know anything about it) but there's loads of fans who are totally committed to Salford who don't seek any publicity or a pat on the back.

The Original Forever Reds model could easily be utililised to help market the club. Back when it was created there was a good spread of fanatical support and experience that helped us raise over £50k when the club needed it most.

We gained a lot of experience through those years, and I still use some of those experiences now.

As a group of supporters we managed to get on TV, Radio and in newspapers... as well as sell out individual events which were attended by supporters and celebs alike.

Even then, the criticism that was thrown our way was ridiculous. I've still no idea why people criticised at that time. The club needed fans to help and we did. Yet many thought we had ulterior motives. Most of the people involved in FR never had any other motive that doing something to help the club they loved.

As Forever Reds moved on, I had to move on too... and I left with a fairly sour taste in my mouth, many reasons of which don't need to be aired on here.

Personally I put in many many hours. I literally never had time for myself. Work would finish and FR work would start. This went on for months.

That said... there isn't any reason why that couldn't work again. It's simply a case of getting a good mix of dedicated people with a broad range of experience and knowledge... no hidden agenda... no secrets... just hard dedication.

I have often thought about starting something back up again as I do feel like the club perhaps need this.

I admire the bravery of someone willing to back up their words with action. A documented history of expressing who's useless and who's stealing a living must be a pretty useful motivator to succeed.

Embarrassing appointment by the club, she'll end up putting the clubs name through the dirt. Seen a post on twitter about Marwan being badly advised, couldn't agree more. Hopefully she'all be found out by the power that be to be professionally inept and clearly a fraud.

I was a member of FR but not really active, I for one believe the supporters need a voice & certainly believe in the good work that used to be carried out by those involved. I would support this type of supporters initiative.
Am I right that FR was disbanded when MK arrived at the club, was it perceived MK had lots of money & FR would not be needed to raise future funds to support the club.

Fully admit I'm not in anyway a fan of Louise, to me she comes across as an attention seeker, it doesn't help that people blow smoke up her backside. But I'm trying to get over that to support the club. anything is worth a try.

Nonsense!! Aren't you aware that the person who makes the most Twitter/Facebook/Instagram etc posts gets the title "Top Red"?!



Nothing against this Louise woman but didn't she used to post on the Turkey and had a massive rant about not getting a job previously? If I'm talking about the same person she certainly seemed to polarise opinions amongst fans! Having one loose cannon in the club is dangerous but 2 may be asking for trouble!

If I'm getting her mixed up with someone else then I apologise and like I said it's nothing personal at all.

A group like Forever Reds could always be used for more than simply funding the club. The manpower can be used to actively market the club within a given budget... which is provided by the club. To self fund this sort of thing means raising money... which the takes up the valuable time that is needed to do the job that they are brought in to do. Events take a lot of organising... I know because of the amount of work I personally did to organise events.

As for whether the FR are disbanded... You may be best asking those who took it over.

Yeah fortunately for me I don't use faceless book ter or instantgram and age says I don't even know what the last one is.



As for this person I know she was a shop assistant at the Willows club shop, (Removed by Moderator- please refrain from posting potentially libellous posts)

This was posted by Louise on another thread a couple of years back. I dont know what was said and cant condone any bullying (if ever there was any) however questioning a club appointment is not and never has been bullying. Anyway, this gives some insight into her roles with the club so is interesting and suggests, whether relevant or not, that she does have some experience...

Some people wear their lives and emotions on display whereas some do not.
People change , some try not to. (Even then they do, whether they want to or not; their prejudices rot.)

Louise deserves us to give her a chance before judging.

That bloody Scholes family!!

Ban the lot of em!!

No fan deserves to feel as though they are being "bullied" regardless of what differences each of us may have with each other. Ultimately we all have one major common ground and that is our love for Salford RLFC. We all want the best for the club both on and off the pitch and because of that we are bound to have disagreements whether it be over signing a certain player or the club appointing someone as part of the backroom team. These disagreements aren’t personal at the individual but rather the desire for overall good of the team and club.

My only genuine concern is whether Louise will feel confident enough standing her ground as and when needed with Marwan. Following her well documented dispute with him will she feel confident enough to challenge him as and when needed? Or will there be some trepidation and concern that if the line isn’t towed then the relationship with both Marwan and the club she has worked so hard to repair will be thrown back in her face. I suppose time will tell on that one.

I don’t have any personal opinion on Louise at all (as I don’t know with any other Salford supporter) as I don’t know her well enough to cast such judgement. I can only comment from a professional basis with regards to her recent appointment. Again though we are unclear what her actual remit/role is and whether it’s full-time, part-time, paid or unpaid. That in its self makes difficult to judge whether or not this is a good or bad appointment. As I have said though she is a fan just like the rest of us and I am sure will move heaven and earth to make a success of whatever it is she has been asked to do.

I also sure Louise understands why this whole topic is now being discussed all over again. When you make such a big deal in public about your strained relationship with the club and its owner for over two years and then following a few months of peace you’re waxing lyrical about them again and accepting their job offer people are bound to (rightly or wrongly) question it.

I could not agree more, you only need to look how this forum disintegrated over the last few months!




I would like to see Marwen using supporters who's passion & commitment can make a difference, many fans have a lots to offer both freely or paid without any less impact.
I for think Marwen should look for ideas & engage the supports more as we ultimately have the answer to help if he as the desire to get this right.