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| Quote ="salfordsno1"ITS NOT ade gardner'"
Better not be smithy you'd have a lot of explaining to do
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| Quote ="salfordsno1"ITS NOT ade gardner'"
Is it AVA Gardner ?
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| Quote ="The optimist"Better not be smithy you'd have a lot of explaining to do
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i know who it is , and the M E N are wrong on this
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| Quote ="Jim Jalfrezi"Is it AVA Gardner ?'"
Quote ="salfordsno1"ITS NOT ade gardner'"
Could've miss heard , it might be Boris Gardiner
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| Quote ="Prestwich Red"Ade one yarder shines in a Saints team where he has world class centres feeding him the ball. Cannot catch the ball, cannot tackle and slow.'"
You don't know what you are talking about.
Who was it who caught the short kickoffs under pressure to set up the two tries which won Saints the last match of the season against Cas and helped shunt us into second spot? That would be Gardner. And that wouldn't be the first match in which he has caught a high kick under pressure. It is Meli who cannot catch.
Gardner also works very, very hard in defence.
Yes, he is slow, but he is also a good finisher. He has always been slow, for a winger, regardless of who has played as his centre. If the rumour is true then what you need is a centre who can time his final pass well.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"You don't know what you are talking about.
Who was it who caught the short kickoffs under pressure to set up the two tries which won Saints the last match of the season against Cas and helped shunt us into second spot? That would be Gardner. And that wouldn't be the first match in which he has caught a high kick under pressure. It is Meli who cannot catch.
Gardner also works very, very hard in defence.
Yes, he is slow, but he is also a good finisher. He has always been slow, for a winger, regardless of who has played as his centre. If the rumour is true then what you need is a centre who can time his final pass well.'"
Can't disagree with any of that.
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| I know I am guessing to some extent that Gardner will come at a cost, but they are at least educated guesses. Even if he comes for free, I'd rather see us show some faith in Gibson, otherwise he'll get pushed out of the team.
As for the hooker situation. Ratchford is NOT a hooker, he'd be wasted there and he's not the right build. He is not a loose either, for much the same reasons. Gibson can cover at hooker, but that should only be as a last resort I feel. He did well filling in but we can't have him there every week. If anybody should play hooker then surely it is Matty Smith? That way we can have Holdsworth (6), Ratchford (7) and Matty Smith (9) all playing. However, I don't think McRae will play Smith at hooker as he prefers him at scrum half and Smith did play well at 7 for Saints, so I think we need another hooker. We need somebody to help fill Alker's boots, otherwise I think we are asking a lot of whoever does play hooker.
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| Quote ="dann_salford"I know I am guessing to some extent that Gardner will come at a cost, but they are at least educated guesses. Even if he comes for free, I'd rather see us show some faith in Gibson, otherwise he'll get pushed out of the team.
As for the hooker situation. Ratchford is NOT a hooker, he'd be wasted there and he's not the right build. He is not a loose either, for much the same reasons. Gibson can cover at hooker, but that should only be as a last resort I feel. He did well filling in but we can't have him there every week. If anybody should play hooker then surely it is Matty Smith? That way we can have Holdsworth (6), Ratchford (7) and Matty Smith (9) all playing. However, I don't think McRae will play Smith at hooker as he prefers him at scrum half and Smith did play well at 7 for Saints, so I think we need another hooker. We need somebody to help fill Alker's boots, otherwise I think we are asking a lot of whoever does play hooker.'"
I think I will go and find a wall to talk to.
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| Quote ="Ordsall Quays Red"Why?? He'd be a better signing than the object of yr man-love Korkidas would be!!'"
He is just a blocker, good proffessional "average joe" surounded by world players in our team he'd do a job, he'd be solid but as a team we wont give him the opportunity to score 20+ tries and he'd get leaned on more defencivly he'd be around the 6 try mark i recon.
I rather have somebody who asks questions of our oppontents because i want my winger to score tries or have a bit of xfactor and make defences think,
Korki has the xfactor but is a bit of a loose cannon, great yards with loose carries he'll be brilliant or he'll be average,.
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| Where to begin?
Quote ="SaintsFanIf the rumour is true then what you need is a centre who can time his final pass well.[/quote
GIBSON - Hopefully he won't be disgarded next season, as he's been one of our better players.
Not sure about the others: Wigan fans don't class Bailey as a Wingers Centre and Bradford fans seem to have the same opinion of Nero. I'm not sure about Henry, but if anybody think Henry has the ability then please say so.
[quote="dann_salford"Ratchford is NOT a hooker, he'd be wasted there and =#FF0000he's not the right build.'"
Neither is Owen, but I'm not sure about Ratchford playing hooker also. Fullback looks to be his best position at the moment. The modern fullback seems to have taken over from the Loose Forward as that extra pivot.
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| Quote ="Jim Jalfrezi"Granted, he ain't Andrew Ettingshausen,'"
My guess is ET is still faster
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"You don't know what you are talking about.
Yes, he is slow, but he is also a good finisher. He has always been slow, for a winger, regardless of who has played as his centre. If the rumour is true then what you need is a centre who can time his final pass well.'"
So you agree he is slow although I do not know what I am talking about and also that he has done well at Saints as he has always had world class centres next to him.
He will struggle elswhere unless we take your centres as well.
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| Quote ="Prestwich Red"So you agree he is slow although I do not know what I am talking about and also that he has done well at Saints as he has always had world class centres next to him.'"
I highlighted the bits in the post I was referring to when I said you didn't know what you were talking about.
Loads of people from other clubs make the same comment about most of our players. They wouldn't be as good without a world class *insert position*/team around them, but who the feck makes up this team? Individuals like Gardner.
Meli is not a world class centre. He played at wing on the international scene for New Zealand a millenia ago. However, Gardner has rediscovered his form since playing outside of Meli. Meanwhile, Jamie Foster does wonders outside of Gidley, the 'world class centre' who has had a very poor season this season. He has been pretty terrible sometimes. We switched Gardner's wing a few matches back so he isn't playing outside a world class centre now but he can still pull off some of the best play of his career.
Like I said, and in respect of those points I highlighted, you don't know what you're talking about.
But yes, he is slow. He always has been. Yet he has still been to Old Trafford and got a couple of Wembley winners medals because even with a world class centre inside of him, he still has to catch a ball, he still has to defend well and he still has to score tries!
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| THE ONLY GARDNER COMING TO THE WILLOWS IS THE NEW GROUNDSMAN
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| Better not be a new groundsman, our pitch is the best in SL!!
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| Quote ="salfordsno1"THE ONLY GARDNER COMING TO THE WILLOWS IS THE NEW GROUNDSMAN'"
apart from Ade, who will be another step up for us and along with the rest of the signings, for the first time in years and years I and many others have a great deal of optimism about the coming season, things are definitely looking up for us.
Well done to everyone at the club.
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| smithy what do you call a big signing because what you call big could be salford signing someone from wigan st pats and were all expecting someone with the calliber of a Jarryd Hayne.
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| I now understand why con men can be so successful. He knows nothing and people are hanging on his every word. Maybe he saw the big signing in one of his dreams?
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| looks like it's not morley or Briers...
From the salford advertiser
"Reds will still not indentify their latest target but it is definitely not going to be either Warrington skipper Adrian Morley or his Wolves team-mate Lee Briers."
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| The Advertiser also threw Martin Crompton's name into the mix. Not sure if he's coach, big name, Judas or a combination.
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| I think we've already established the quality of the RL media in other posts. They just copy stuff off RLFans...
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| Quote ="TheButcher"I think we've already established the quality of the RL media in other posts. They just copy stuff off RLFans...'"
Well, that explains the poor spelling and grammar in the Evening News.
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| Quote ="sortedshaun"smithy what do you call a big signing because what you call big could be salford signing someone from wigan st pats and were all expecting someone with the calliber of a Jarryd Hayne.'"
Look even if the new signing isnt a so called big name? We should all be glad of the players we've brought in for next year anyway? I mean in the past when have salford signed multiple good players? There normaly jason nicol, jason webber type aussies and ryan clayton simon baldwin types for english players, next year is going to be the first year where we're going to have quality playing for us, and i think we all should be happy to witness that.
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| I think a lot of the stories published in the press about us are works of fiction. The fact is that the club is still suggesting that we are after one or two more players for next season. That must be good news.
If one is a 'big' signing then the club is quite rightly doing all it can to make sure no details leak out as there seem to have been lots of leaks with some of the other signings we have made in the last six weeks.
Whatever happens we look a lot stronger on paper next season.
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| Quote ="RED LEAGUE"Look even if the new signing isnt a so called big name? We should all be glad of the players we've brought in for next year anyway? I mean in the past when have salford signed multiple good players? There normaly jason nicol, jason webber type aussies and ryan clayton simon baldwin types for english players, next year is going to be the first year where we're going to have quality playing for us, and i think we all should be happy to witness that.'"
That's life I guess . . whatever the club do they will never please everyone all of the time. Some fans just want to offer their opinions and tell everyone they could do certain things better. A lot of the time we are making blind judgements when we don't have all the facts. It's no different on any other club forum. The reality is that things on the inside are never quite the same as they appear from the outside!
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