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| I just read there is no smoke without fire but if we are honest if this was the case hull fc will have every half decent player in superleague signed up next season. I dont know why but this season the Hull fans have got abit vocal and think that every player wants to play for them just because there new owner has spat a few lines out about that they will only sign qaulity, do you not realise that hes only saying it to make you happy, the only qaulity player you have signed so far is ellis and your still losing 2 qaulity second rows in tickle and manu.
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| i think he will go, this is just the same as the smith situation and look what happend there. he is 28 yrs old and i would not blame him if hull do offer him more money that he will take it.
with the likes of pattern going, smith gone, Holdsworth possibly going, feka going, are wage bill should be very small indeed. hopefully we will blood the under 20s more with a few additions which will benefit the team. shame we could not have had another year with pattern,smith,holdsworth, in the hope of a better pack we would have a very good team.
but players come and go.
i think dean long is the most important person we need to keep on are books who is becoming a quality coach.
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| No his brother Sean is a much better coach !
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| Quote ="dubairl"I just read there is no smoke without fire but if we are honest if this was the case hull fc will have every half decent player in superleague signed up next season. I dont know why but this season the Hull fans have got abit vocal and think that every player wants to play for them just because there new owner has spat a few lines out about that they will only sign qaulity, do you not realise that hes only saying it to make you happy, the only qaulity player you have signed so far is ellis and your still losing 2 qaulity second rows in tickle and manu.'"
I usually take what Hull fans say about signings with a pinch of salt. They're the worst set of fans on these boards in terms of rumours and come up with hundreds and hundreds of pages of them year after year. Only Wigan seem to really come close with the sheer amount of tiresome talk about who they might be bringing in.
Saying that, it wouldn't surprise me now if Holdsworth is going. Seems to be too much talk about it for there to be nothing in it.
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| If he wants to go let him go.
Hull despite the support, money etc have won fook all for years.
If he wants to live up there with the inbred, insular sad barstools then let him
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| Good to see Joel Moon trying to sell himself to other clubs on twitter this morning, there all trying to escape. Can't see any light at the end of the tunnel tbh.
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| Quote ="middleman"I believe Hull tabled a bid for Holdsworth a couple of years ago which prompted Salford to offer him an improved 3 year deal , then Patten signed and the club signed some more ' higher profile players ' ( for Salford ).
however the last two seasons have been the most bizzare i've ever experienced , and after these Holdsworth wanting out wouldn't be a huge surprise to me anyway.
given the depth of the amateur game in the East Riding i've always wondered why the Hull teams always seem to be looking outwards or overseas for half back talent?
It's also perverse that it's Bradford in Admin. but it is Salford who seem to be doing it's best to balance the books who are under constant rumour of losing it's players.
If he does go then thats us pretty much supplying half of SL with half backs in the past few years . and I think that says as much about the lack of talent in the other teams as much as it highlights our inability to retain players.
There's fat lady in the corner and she's clearing her throat, but she's not singing yet ..'"
You do know that Holdswoth is a Aussie dont you?.
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| Quote ="F.C. Aces"You do know that Holdswoth is a Aussie dont you?.
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An Australian who was languishing in the depths of the NSW Cup competition, unable to get a game for the Canterbury first team.
We took a chance on him, he turned out to be good and the vultures came circling. Unfortunately that's sport for you.
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| Quote ="F.C. Aces"You do know that Holdswoth is a Aussie dont you?.
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| Quote ="middleman"H-o-l-d-s-w-o-r-t-h
at least get it right on the cheque ...'"
Big deal i made a typo. Another one who thinks that they are a member of the spelling police. I Guess i will see the name H-o-l-d-s-w-o-r-t-h that much next season, i am sure i will be able to spell his name correctly in no time.
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| Quote ="Red Preacher"Whilst I wish not to pass comment on Hull, I must say hold on a minute with regards to the Salford comments. This city is genuinely on the up with many beautiful areas of note.
Granted, it has some pretty rank areas but even these have improved in recent years.
Time to get rid of the stereotype me thinks.'"
I thought this was a rugby site,not lets take childish snipes at a city. (not aimed at you) Everywhere has it good and bad places,Hull is no different from everywhere else.How people can call everybody bad names if they live in a certain place beats me.We are all different surely?
I don`t come from Hull so I have no reason to defend it,other than to say lets not tar everybody with the same brush eh?
I am sure any player who comes to Hull could move to Swanland if he finds Preston Road too much for him.
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| Quote ="barton baird"I thought this was a rugby site,not lets take childish snipes at a city. (not aimed at you) Everywhere has it good and bad places,Hull is no different from everywhere else.How people can call everybody bad names if they live in a certain place beats me.We are all different surely?
I don`t come from Hull so I have no reason to defend it,other than to say lets not tar everybody with the same brush eh?
I am sure any player who comes to Hull could move to Swanland if he finds Preston Road too much for him.
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As for Holdsworth, the bloke is excellent. A thoroughly professional, fit and highly skilled player. In his first year with us I remember commenting that I couldn't think of a better NSW player. Even now he ranks not too far behind Todd Carney IMO.
I'd be very sorry to see him go.
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| First it was Patten, then Smith, then Gleeson, now Holdsworth possibly Broughton, and now Moon flirting for a move. This tells me a sinking ship is being deserted. A decent three quarter line can't get out the door quick enough. If these decent departures aren't replaced with quality for next season the wooden spoon will be ours again especially with this pitiful pack.
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| Quote ="Dantes Inferno"First it was Patten, then Smith, then Gleeson, now Holdsworth possibly Broughton, and now Moon flirting for a move. This tells me a sinking ship is being deserted. A decent three quarter line can't get out the door quick enough. If these decent departures aren't replaced with quality for next season the wooden spoon will be ours again especially with this pitiful pack.'"
so which club will get the wooden spoon then, you have not said who you are now supporting, but then again Bradford who should be selling and are a sinking ship are being supported all the way by the RFL.
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| At the risk of bringing this back on topic, isn't it illegal to approach a player who is under contract?
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| Quote ="Red John"At the risk of bringing this back on topic, isn't it illegal to approach a player who is under contract?'"
Not if the club he is contracted to allows them to speak to that player.
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| Quote ="Dantes Inferno"First it was Patten, then Smith, then Gleeson, now Holdsworth possibly Broughton, and now Moon flirting for a move. This tells me a sinking ship is being deserted. .'"
Not really - it tells me more that your continual bile has eventually got through to them.
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| Shame that the most exciting back line we've had in 15 years (Sini-Naylor-McAvoy-Rogers) is about to fall to bits as well.
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| Quote ="Ave It!"Not if the club he is contracted to allows them to speak to that player.'"
In which it is safe to say Salford already have. If Holdsworth has already signed, Hull won't officially announce it until after 4th September.
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| It's the same old rubbish wilkinson says we are not in administration yet selling all are players the club don't give a damn about fans and I think club will be in administration soon problem we have is they will look at are club and no one is not going to buy as we are rubbish run and don't seem to be any honesty how many more we going to sell and will veivers quit
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Read that four times and, now, think I know at what you are driving.
So why are you continuing to support a "rubbish run" (sic) club who "do'nt give a damn about" (sic) you?
We are continuously being reminded of our failings by several posters but no one can give concrete proposals of how to mend them (except the perennial refernces to marketing).
Please read "Always behind the sticks"'s comments (and other's) on pages 14 and 15 of this thread. Sense.
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Read that four times and, now, think I know at what you are driving.
So why are you continuing to support a "rubbish run" (sic) club who "do'nt give a damn about" (sic) you?
We are continuously being reminded of our failings by several posters but no one can give concrete proposals of how to mend them (except the perennial refernces to marketing).
Please read "Always behind the sticks"'s comments (and other's) on pages 14 and 15 of this thread. Sense.
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| Honestly think the scare mongering isn't doing anyone any good.
I honestly think we selling players we and loosing the highest paid players at the club (only guessing), we are surely freeing up money so we live within our means. The only way these players will stay and future big signings when we get bums on seats, making more money. But people will not come unless we are winning things - FACT!. Always frustrates me that all these people are on here saying marketing are rubbish, BUT i am sure these will probably be the same poelpe that went to blackpool? we took over 6000 if memory serves me right (dosnt always). if that 6000 turned up now I think we wouldn't be like this. Its not a critiscism just an observation with all sport, winning teams get bums on seats.
Rant over
Good luck to DJ, I honestly think he is a great player an will do really well at hull.
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| excuse the really poor spelling!
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