'Both of us' - that could actually be the sum total of the attendance! Not amused

Well played by Salford tonight, played well, and although there weren't many of you, you were loud and fair play to you coming down on a tuesday night, I don't think we would have brought many more if it was switched. Fair play.

was a good one too lol...only one who seemed to chase his own kick and deserved a try!

Well played?

Were you at the game?

just back,speechless and rather fed up,please wilky sort this mess out,it is such a dreadful shame that our last season at the willows is turning into a bigger and bigger farce on and off the pitch!

Poor poor Salford & yes I was there, we lack proper coaching on how to tackle & defend, we lack leadership, look good going forward but we cannot defend, started again once Cashmere & Godwin left the field, conceded 3 try's in the space of 5 minutes towards the end of the first half. They won at a cantor. Jack Dearden on radio Manchester summed it up, said the Salford club owed it to the fans, what was left of them to sort out the off the pitch problems before they were left with none, not a good advert with the new stadium on the horizon, summed it up for me, even Jack Dearden, who always defends the club is coming off the fence. Look very defeated the players tonight, very fragile.

Dont know if its the coaching, but whenever we play against Danny Brough we are scared to touch him.Shutting him down tonight would of shut them down as everything went through him.And for me Adamson and Smith should be doing a stint in the reserves one learning to tackle the other learning to catch a high ball!!!!!

dont like to signal players out after these usual drubbings we are getting customised too,but agree on the adamson case tonight,he was shocking,and really isnt looking like turning into the player we all thought he would.feka,can do one off to folly lane for me,and the rest of the team need to go knocking on the doors at wire and the pies this week to ask if they can join in there training sessions,as whats the point in them training with no proper fecking coaching system in place at salford!!

Just got back first and foremost well done the 200/250 Reds fans that are still daft enough



Secondly what a defence we have yes what defence ? Hudds actually did nothing throughout the game (not spectacular anyway) they basically fell over the line about eight times through a paper thin defence.

On the plus side my choice of bookie thought that giving Salford +20 was in his opinion right, They don't know everything .

you sound like the anouncer who made up the attendance, 6,400 more like 4,600, we played like a group of new to rugby league beginners, no clue on defending close to the line and from my conversation tonight some players have already been offered more than we have offered them for next season so we might start getting a Coley situation all over again.
We need to change the captain to someone who can get the players some what motivated and not go through the motions, after tonight I feel the club don't deserve a franchise, since Harrison left we have gone backwards, we have brought through some good players but within months they appear to forget how to play rugby league. Holdsworth last season was three or four times the player he is this season, we have one move and today Patten looked like he was a bit fed up with it, Stefan has now stopped passing to Jody so straving the supply line and Feka why on why did we sign him. Poor Management since last season has resulted in where we are today, there appears to be no leadership at the club and no one appears at the club to care about it, even Vievers said on the radio there was no crisis at the club. From what I have seen tonight we have a massive crisis at Salford and if clubspeak is denying it and hoping it will go away won't work. We are on the deck stacking deckchairs as the SS Salford sinks quickly below the waves and the board pour each other drinks as the club DJ plays last requests.

Holdsworth was impressive for you. His try was so jammy though. Kicked on the fifth tackle from about 30 yards out. The ball landed about 2 cms from the dead ball line (me shouting leave it, unfortunately the Giants players must have heard me

) then bounced backwards away from all the Giants players for Holdsworth to touch down.

From what i saw today the area you need to tighten up is your goal line defence which was dire. Other than that you seem to have quite a bit of ability.

Congrats to the fans who came over ( and only about a dozen left before the end).

Enormous overreaction currently. Two weeks ago we hammered the Bulls with enterprising Rugby. Since then we have played 2 top 4 teams with the strongest defences in the League and tonight we scored 4 well worked tries.

Our attack for once is creating openings but our goal line defence is dreadful and 5 tries conceded from 2 yards out. Shocking statistic.

I dont share many peoples view here as this can be turned around - attack wise we need to sharpen passing to where the man should be rather than one yard behind and we need to interchange DJ, Smith & Ratch throughout the game which would freshen ideas in attack but please can we have someone coach the lads in defence in our own 25.

I may be alone on this but I thought we were better tonight. The only thing that really let us down was our goal-line defence. Unfortunately the amount of time we spent defending tired us out, hence the second half collapse.

Two heavy defeats over Easter were always on the cards and should not be used to judge our team. Results against teams like Bradford and London either side of Easter are far more important to our season. Therefore, if we lose heavily on Saturday, I may change my tune?!

[i[awaits someone who drinks more and/or shouts louder telling me that I don't know anything ..... [/i

The biggest disappointment was the goal line defence. Absolutely terrible. Hudds scored 9 tries, 7 of which either came from the dummy half diving over, or the first receiver just busting a tackle - no moves, no guile, just going straight though. Then there was the try from the kick where we all just stood around and watched their player take it unopposed, then stood off while he offloaded it to the scorer. Really, really need to wake up.

If you are talking like this Big Pev,its time the directors started to listen.

Happens every season and one of the things that really annoys me about the way we play. It would be interesting to see how many tries we've conceded in the last few seasons from this because we just cannot seem to stop players from diving over from the play the ball on the goalline. On the other side of things, whenever we try it, it rarely seems to come off as other teams are much more clued up about those sorts of things.

I havn't proof but I'd guess that defence of that kind was much stronger when Harrison was in charge. I'd bite the bullet and ask him for some defensive assistance, from what I gather he is still well respected at the club and if he helps what harm can it do. As others have said going forward we look very good (as we should with the pace and guille we have on the pitch) it is without doubt in defense where the help is needed.

Last night was a real low point of mine in terms of watching Salford. Not really down to just things on the pitch either. We are 6 points down to a pretty decent Hudds side yet there is no hint of an atmosphere, it was like everyone knew what was going to happen in the second half. The directors are still carrying on their ostrich impressions and burying their heads in the sand in regards to the coaching issue. I actually feel a bit sorry for the players as for the first time in ages we have a team with decent potential yet stumble from one farce to another in terms of who is in charge, whilst waiting for Mcraes sick note to run out. Used to enjoy Salford aways if only for the off the pitch activities but am starting to think of better ways to spend £50+ every other week. Not sure why last night is so relevant to any of this but maybe it has finally sunk in that yet again we are happy to write off another season and wait for the franchise/new stadium and then the whole cycle will begin again. Can't wait.

For me the problem is the fragility of the whole team - 1'st 10 minutes we looked good, creative with ball in hand, tackling well (in field if not on the try line!) and taking the lead twice!

Once we went behind you kind of knew that was it - despite getting back to 18 - 24 just before HT once Hudds scored first we just fell away.

At half time that game was winnable for us, but ultimately the Giant's forwards out-muscled us and we had no answer nor any way to adapt our play to cope with them. That has to be a confidence/coaching matter - until the back-room problems get sorted I can't see anything improving and the rest of this season being a write off (just like the last <n> seasons - where <n> is now quite a large number!)

Even when we have played well and/or won, I've still noticed that we really need to get a ruthless defensive streak in us. We lack serious clout in defence and for me this boils down to a couple of factors. Ailing defence usually means a lack of coaching, morale, and most importantly fitness.

You can coach and practice great defensive technique but if the team is unfit it will fail most of the time. Good morale can throw a few band-aids on a tired defence but it wont get you through the season.

At the moment we have poor morale which doesn't help, and the team just doesn't look fit enough. I can't comment on the coaching which might be very good or very bad.

Enormous over reaction? Really?

I'll readily accept that Wire were awesome and blew us off the park. What they played was some excellent rugby.

Last night on the other hand was a disgrace. Yes I know how good Hudds are, but Hudds last night were terrible and won thanks to a catalogue of defensive errors and indecision. A few players need to have a good hard look at themselves, because there are some of our players who should be ashamed of the standards they are displaying at the moment.

this year is like deja-vu from the year harrison got the sack!

Nah 'cos we were crap last year as well. At least with him we reached the playoffs the season before

i mean the fact that, that year we all thought we were gona go places and it ended worse than we could have ever thought! im just absolutely gutted the way our team are going. players dont look hungry for the win. hope we dont show ourselves up even more infront of the cameras on saturday.

A convincing win for Quins would spell disaster. To be honest anything other than a win in my eyes will be a failure.

Unless both teams play out of their skins, play the best rugby they have played all year and we lose by a drop goal.

The team need to prove to those who do the long haul down to London that they deserve theirs and our support. In fact the team should feel lucky that they will run out to any support at all.

As for me I'll clap them on in my armchair listening to Stevo tell me how poor we are and how bad our supporters are for the situation with the coaching staff