I agree with the sentiment. Harris can pick whoever he likes as long as we win. All this "endearing himself to the Salford public" stuff from Lou Kate was as you say, cringe-worthy.

Spot on, especially when it's the right thing to do too.

Just watched the highlights again and have got to say that Rangi Chase's reverse pass for the last try is one of the best bits of skill I've seen in many years.

We do need to improve our defensive intensity, especially out wide. Tomkins had a good game too. Would like to see him make a more permanent move at some point.

I thought Tomkins was very good when he came on, plenty of scooting and yards around dummy half which is something we've been missing this season. Once again Rangi was on a different level, everything we do comes off him and if we're to make the 8 then its imperative he stays fit. Hock and Tasi also ran very hard and made good ground forward.

My only concern us the amount of points we're leaking, we need to tighten it up and quickly.

I thought our defence was much improved, with very few missed tackles. Where we seem to be a bit lacking is in scrambling defence, particularly when an opposition move goes all wrong and they start throwing the ball about in panic. We seem to panic with them. The first try and the Elliot Kear try were examples of this, particularly the Kear one. Why did Meli come chasing infield after him? It was like an Ealing comedy with an old policeman trying to chase some young kid. And where did the rest of the defence go?

Logan Tomkins was outstanding, and I hope this loan deal is with a view to a permanent move. Lots of pace around dummy half, and he always kept the defence guessing. MoM, though, was probably Rangi. That pass for Meli's try was completely unnecessary and completely brilliant. A real highlight. Tim Smith also had his best game for a while, as did quite a few players (Tony Puletua being another).

I think Puletua had quietly gone about his business well and for this season alone has come in for some unfair stick at time. I have been happy with the majority of his performances, does the hard yards well and leaves the attention grabbing stuff to the others.

I was really impressed with Junior S'au last night. His attacking style is explosive when he is near the try line. Will only get better as the season progresses and he gains full fitness.

One disappointment again was Tim Smith, I know he is trying but he really needs to cut out the errors and concentrate on his passing skills, he tends to put his teammates under unnecessary pressure with his short passes which are more often than not resulting in a knock on.

Just goes to show that the posters on this thread must have been watching at least 6 different games as the opinions voiced were so contrary to each other. Little wonder that as spectators we make crap coaches. Let Harris get on with the job he is paid for and put our trust in him. There is a long way to go to get the team in order but I for one am happy to let Iestyn get on with it.

One way we could improve immediately - discipline. Too many penalties, costing us too many points again. Not a big issue last night, but going forward this has to improve.

To the three in agreement ' cringeworthy ' posters,can I suggest to you that you READ my post,and not what you think you read.

Re-read your post and it still made me shudder and turn pink.

Sorry.

Oh dear me. You are easily shuddered. Maybe you need a different hobby,maybe one that is easier on yourself.

That's a bit strong,Mike.
MK has tweeted that Fages and Sneyd are the future of this club,and Theo will have plenty of game time,which is the way it should be.
As I said previously I was very surprised at the starting 17,because I thought he might replace Smith,or Lee would move to loose forward.
The fact is that he is a crowd favourite and won't be off the scene for long.Long being the operative word because Sean Long will make him a better player.
In the meantime,Harris must come to his own conclusions and keep winning or the doctor will have HIM shuddering and turning pink !

I agree Theo is a great player but the hold he has over some of the posters on here is ridiculous.

For what it's worth I'd rather Theo player every couple of weeks at half back and be allowed to develop rather than being played week in week out as an impact hooker, which IMO will hinder his progress. I'm pretty sure Harris is thinking along the same lines.

This.

I've often felt as though some of our fans slightly overrate him based on the excitement of having a young player with so much obvious potential playing the first team.

I'm an admirer of Theo, and I think his ability is his biggest asset. He's a young player with a lot of skill to soak up from the likes of Chase and Long. He's viewed as the future and it would be stupid to burn him out early. He's had to tough it when he played week in week out in a garbage side. That will have toughened him up mentally. Now we have better structure in place, and quality around him for him to learn we'd be stupid to continually throw him in the deep end. Drip feeding him in is how we should do it, and I'll be surprised if that isn't what will happen.

I understand where some people are coming from who like him, but leaving him out of one game shouldn't be leading to hysterics at this stage.

I'd be concerned if he didn't appear at all, but let's give the new regime a chance before throwing teddies out of cots.

A lot of common sense being spouted on here. Well done all. In the main - Theo needs time and space with the quality surrounding him. He will benefit (& we will too) for years to come.

I'd just like to ask a favour.
Would someone point me in the right direction to find out how many tries we have conceded,thus far,when Adrian Morley is not on the pitch?
Or,perhaps,Tommy Lee.
Will the club statistician keep that type of record? If so how do I contact him/her?

I think more what I meant in my exclamation about Theo being dropped was that Smith has been nothing much more than mediocre this season (and I defy anyone liking for Theo or not to say he has been better or offered more to the team) and can only really have retained his place on reputation. I appreciate Theo is a player for the future but equally he is also a player who deserves to be in contention for the present.

I for one hope that working along side two of the best halves in Harris and Lon and playing alongside Chase and Smith will take him to bigger and better things.

I can't see Wigan letting Tomkins staying on any former of permanent deal and doubt that Owen will be back (if at all) before the end of this season so see Theo as actually having a future in that position and also him growing into the utility halve/hooking position.

Theo is not a great player, at this moment in time he is a good prospect that is all he is. At the same ages Shaun Edwards was a great player he is not in that class by a long way, if Harris does not play him he as is reasons get behind are new coach. By the way does any one know if that Michigan is Theo's agent.

No I'm not, but I'm old enough to see enough clart at Salford to know a talented youngster when I see one.

OK are kid???

I suggest pressing down harder on your 'H' key...