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| Quote ="Chris Charles No1 Fan"Quote ="king of the shed"...aaahhh but he only stared 4 games and was a sub in 3 in the "Naughties" matey and didn't score a point.
Surley you must have known that JJ after all the games that you have been to?
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old age mate....old age
Ah well, back in with Chris Charles
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| My Choice for Pack of the Decade.
8 - Neil Baynes
9 - Malcolm Alker
10 - Sean Rutgerson
11 - Andy Coley
12 - Luke Adamson
13 - Darren Brown
My Holby City Pack of the Decade
8 - Stephen Nash
9 - David Berthezene
10 - Gareth Haggerty
11 - Mark Edmundson
12 - Warren Jowitt
13 - Tim Jonkers
"what were they Thinking Signing ..." Pack of the Decade
8 - Mark Corvo
9 - David Highton
10 - Damien Driscoll
11 - Greg Ebrill
12 - Neil Lowe
13 - Matthew Leigh
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| Quote ="middleman"
"what were they Thinking Signing ..." Pack of the Decade
8 - Mark Corvo
9 - David Highton
10 - Damien Driscoll
11 - Greg Ebrill
12 - Neil Lowe
13 - Matthew Leigh'"
Harsh when you could have put Borgese there.
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| Quote ="Iain"Harsh when you could have put Borgese there.'"
Beat me to it, I thought Dave Highton was OK for us.
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| Quote ="middleman"
"what were they Thinking Signing ..." Pack of the Decade
9 - David Highton'"
Totally disagree with that. I thought he was quality. Faster around the ruck then Alker and with better distribution.
In NL1 in 2003 i always thought we looked better when he came of the bench and Alker moved to 2nd row.
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| My pack would be:
8: Coley
9: Alker
10: Rutgerson
11: Adamson
12: Brown
13: Finnagen (2006)
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| Quote ="Jim Jalfrezi":1df9d1kf'" :1df9d1kf
old age mate....old age
Ah well, back in with Chris Charles
Or is it that barrell of whisky you must have drunk over xmas.
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| The reason i put cashmere in the team of the decade was he is heads and shoulders (apart from rucho and korki) above anything ive seen in a salford shirt, he has taken the pack to another level imo and hopefully other members of that pack who blow hot and cold through every season they have wore the red shirt will finally put there yo-yo form to bed
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| middleman wrote:"what were they Thinking Signing ..." Pack of the Decade
8 - Mark Corvo
9 - David Highton
10 - Damien Driscoll
11 - Greg Ebrill
12 - Neil Lowe
13 - Matthew Leigh
Iain Wrote :- Harsh when you could have put Borgese there.
No. Borgese was signed principally as a Stand-off Half , not a hooker , but was somewhat eclipsed by the emergence of Myler/Ratchford + Paul. and the ever presence of Alker. Borgese was a gamble " apparently the you-tube video was good
David Highton, should have been a class act had he not p1ssed his career up the wall with drugs ..
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| Quote ="The optimist"....................... (apart from rucho and korki) ...........'"
Rutgerson yes - absolutely agree - gutted when he hung up his boots - but Korki????
Lots of buff & bluster, but IMHO one who flattered to decieve - dropped the ball far too much and though he "looked" impressive how many tackles did he actually break and how many yards actually made?
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| Quote ="middleman"
David Highton, should have been a class act had he not p1ssed his career up the wall with drugs ..'"
Didn't we sign Highton after his drugs ban? IIRC he left us to sign for Quins, spent a season there and then quit the game to become a plumber. From what i heard he got a job with a local council (might of been Warrington), where he was earning a hell of a lot more then playing rugby.
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| Quote ="The King Of Birchwood"Didn't we sign Highton after his drugs ban? IIRC he left us to sign for Quins, spent a season there and then quit the game to become a plumber. From what i heard he got a job with a local council (might of been Warrington), where he was earning a hell of a lot more then playing rugby.'"
You're correct Salford signed him after being sacked by Warrington in 2001 for use of banned steriods
He repaid the faith Salford showed in him by leaving to sign for Quinns after we were relegated at the end of the 2002 season. Alker , Baynes , Coley stuck with us ( As did Paul Highton ) which is why they should be considered for pack of the decade and Highton D won't be . If he is earning more being a Plumber for Warrington Council seems like you're still paying for him now ..
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| Quote ="middleman"You're correct Salford signed him after being sacked by Warrington in 2001 for use of banned steriods
He repaid the faith Salford showed in him by leaving to sign for Quinns after we were relegated at the end of the 2002 season. Alker , Baynes , Coley stuck with us ( As did Paul Highton ) which is why they should be considered for pack of the decade and Highton D won't be .
If he is earning more being a Plumber for Warrington Council seems like you're still paying for him now ..'"
Not sure when D Highton started playing for us but he definitely didn't leave at the end of 2002. He was in my opinion a highly effective interchange hooker with Alker during our 2003 promotion season. I have a clear memory of him scooting about 45 yards from dummy half away at Spotland in one game.
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| Ok so after much deliberation I've cobbled this together. We appear to have had a good number of decent props but not many good loose forwards.
Highton
Alker
Rutgerson
Adamson
Coley
and this is the toughest part, I've worked out the following players stats;
Brown
Charles (with both both S.L. and NL1 stats)
Wainwright
Swain
Finnigan
and have now whittled it down to Charles & Finnigan and for now thats the best I can do.
I would have no complaints about Cashmere, Stapo, Baynes or even to a lesser extent Korki making the team (although every team needs a good bench! )
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| Quote ="BartonFlyer"Lots of buff & bluster, but IMHO one who flattered to decieve - dropped the ball far too much and though he "looked" impressive how many tackles did he actually break and how many yards actually made?'"
Now I'm not saying you're right or wrong on this I’m just merely pointing to the stats! (as per usual )
The one thing I will say for Korki was during 2007 he was the only man to give us any lift in the pack (as most clearly couldn't be bothered) and as thus was targeted every week by the opposition when he took the ball in.
[u Props used in 2007[/u
[u Michael Korkidas[/u
Played: 27
Meters: 3189 (4th best in SL in 2007)
Tackle Busts: 19 (which was very low)
Carries: 19
Penalties: 15
Errors: 413 (7th Worst in SL in 2007)
Tackles: 554
Missed Tackles: 25
[u Andy Coley[/u
Played: 23
Meters: 2207
Tackle Busts: 48
Carries: 312
Penalties: 35 (Worst in SL in 2007)
Errors: 19
Tackles: 596
Missed Tackles: 56
[u Paul Highton[/u
Played: 13
Meters: 684
Tackle Busts: 14
Carries: 100
Penalties: 5
Errors: 1
Tackles: 171
Missed Tackles: 12
[u Gareth Haggerty[/u
Played: 18
Meters: 1182
Tackle Busts: 23
Carries: 167
Penalties: 11
Errors: 10
Tackles: 245
Missed Tackles: 24
[u Stephen Nash[/u
Played: 9
Meters: 447
Tackle Busts: 7
Carries: 60
Penalties: 5
Errors: 1
Tackles: 170
Missed Tackles: 12
[u Lee Jewitt[/u
Played: 14
Meters: 475
Tackle Busts: 7
Carries: 80
Penalties: 7
Errors: 2
Tackles: 244
Missed Tackles: 9
[u Phil Leuluai[/u
Played: 9
Meters: 447
Tackle Busts: 7
Carries: 60
Penalties: 5
Errors: 5
Tackles: 78
Missed Tackles: 13
[u Our best / Worst in 2007.[/u
Meters: Michael Korkidas 3189 (4th best)
Tackle Busts: Kevin McGuinness with 69 (12th best)
Carries: 413 Michael Korkidas (7th best)
Penalties: 35 Andy Coley (Worst)
Errors: 31 Luke Dorn (5th worst)
Tackles: 770 Simon Finnigan (4th best)
Missed Tackles: 57 Luke Dorn (11th worst)
Looking back through the stats it's strange how the memory plays tricks on what you think you saw and what actually happened!
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| Quote ="middleman"
He repaid the faith Salford showed in him by leaving to sign for Quinns after we were relegated at the end of the 2002 season.'"
Incorrect i'm afarid.
Iain's right on this one. Dave Highton left at the end of 2003 season after we'd been promoted.
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| Quote ="king of the shed"Now I'm not saying you're right or wrong on this I’m just merely pointing to the stats! (as per usual
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Looking back through the stats it's strange how the memory plays tricks on what you think you saw and what actually happened!
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Fascinating - certainly he made more yards than I would have given him credit for - but the error rate and penalties conceeded means I definitely did see some of what I thought I saw (sorry Rioja kicking in here!!)
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| Quote ="BartonFlyer"Fascinating - certainly he made more yards than I would have given him credit for - but the error rate and penalties conceeded means I definitely did see some of what I thought I saw (sorry Rioja kicking in here!!)'"
Sorry i C.o.cked it up there, Korki actually only made 19 errors, I'm not sure what the hell happened there. (sorry Guinness kicking in here!! )
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| you're a star Parky, an absolute star
[size=85p.s. have another can mate [/size
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| Quote ="Jim Jalfrezi"you're a star Parky, an absolute star
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Shocking mistake I am more than a little annoyed at myself. I can't beleive nobody really spotted that that figure was more than a tad high
Quote ="Jim Jalfrezi"[size=85p.s. have another can mate [/size '"
Don't you worry about that there's plenty more where these have come from (No not Dublin d.ickheads ) my fridge.
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| My word, you seem to apologise a lot when drunk. Twice in one line
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| Quote ="The King Of Birchwood"Incorrect i'm afarid.
Iain's right on this one. Dave Highton left at the end of 2003 season after we'd been promoted.'"
Sorry ! knew he'd left us to go a superleague club but was convinced it was before the relegation, not after we'd been promoted the following year, can't seem to recollect him playing for us in the NL. better not book him to service my boiler then
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| and finally,this
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| Pack of the decade gotta be:
8. Rutgo
9. Alker
10. Korky
11. Sibbo
12. Coley
13. Charles
I would definately love to have some of these lads gracing the willows again....
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| My Pack Would Be Completely Different Compared To Most others
Prop - Phil Leuluai : that man works his @rse off not to get started and get the contracts he deserves
Hooker - Malcolm Alker : Just an utter asset and legend to salford
Prop - Sean Rutgerson : Any salford fan can't say you wouldn't want him in your side
Second Row - Michael Korkidas : i'd play him here because with his aggression on the field he becomes a awesome player
Second Row - Craig stapleton : once again aggression and playing style yet he still manages to break lines.
Loose forward - Luke Adamson : he's got speed yet strength yet ball handling skills and that creates one hell of a player
My Substitions for the pack would be
Prop - Andy coley : the name says enough
I can't think of any more
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