like I said, that's what I heard last night at the game. obviously that may not be correct, but I would suggest that's a reasonable amount if found guilty given past deductions

See Nottinghamtigers post above.

Bradford once received a points deduction for breaking the cap. They spent between 52% to 55% of the allowed 50% cap. They pleaded guilty and didn't contest the decision. The reason they went above the cap was because Shontayne Hape picked up a season ending injury while playing for New Zealand. As I recall, the Bulls signed a replacement for Hape believing that they would receive compensation from New Zealands player insurance. This never happened and ultimately sent the Bulls above the cap. If this is deemed the same as setting up a fake company to pay players more than they stated on their salary cap allowance to deliberately deceive the RFL then I am truly at a loss.

And more to the point, if I was a Salford fan I would be directing my anger at the absolute tool who has put the club in this position. His constant criticism of the RFL and his public announcement that he will break the cap will, I have no doubt, now come back to haunt him.

If this is true, not only has he been cheating the other clubs and the game as a whole, but more importantly your very own fans who pay their hard earned money to watch the team. Koukash has been willing to take all their money despite knowing that one day any achievements by the team could be as worthless as Lance Armstrong's cycling medals. He may well have rescued the club, but he has then lied and betrayed the very same supporters who hailed him as a saviour.

I feel sorry for Salford fans if this is true, I'm sure most of them want to watch a successful team but not at the expense of having any success tarnished by dishonesty and deliberate cheating.

There is nothing in the rules to say that a 3rd party company cannot pay a player. The rules only state that the club must report all such payments as part of their salary cap submission. There are no rules related to the individual player for them to break - apart from the usual HMRC obligations.

The player would just say that he assumed the club was including the payments as part of their salary cap submission, as the club is supposed to do.

Think I'm more dissappointed that if we did break the salary cap, that we spent the money on that shower of $hit

Deduction of 2 points

4 points

unfortunately if you are found to have broken the cap to my mind is relegation to the middle 8s and then a 5 point deduction going into the playoffs

When did they say the hearing is?
Marwan seems reasonably confident so I guess we see what unfolds.

Never boring at our club is it

You'd think that there are a couple of other SL teams watching this rather nervously.

That's some foresight from Marwan setting up a company 20 years ago so he could buy a club 16 years later so he could break the salary cap in a sport at the time he had no intrest in.
Read the tribunal it refers to euromartech I'm sure in the last four years you've done the company check.

My understanding was it was dormant and reregistered? Then it's only activity seems to be to do with paying Salford players for "recruitment advice".
To be honest, regardless of the finer details the fact is it has made payments to one player in addition to his salary from the club. It may have been disclosed to the RFL, of course, and be unrelated to the accusations Salford face.

Check euromartech Web page you'll see as I said have been trading for over twenty years and you will see if you check out the seminars they are in the future. So not dormant in the last twenty years or now.
Not the first time you've quoted incorrect facts on here still remember the "I'm an expert you won't get a work permit" comments you made a couple of years ago

Don't listen to them, Salford fans. Others are just jealous of your recent success.

Thought the company was Euromachtech, not Euromartech. Possibly my error, possibly two companies with A similar name.
However, your trying to just avoid the main principle. If the accusations are true, it's dishonest and blatant cheating and the length of time the company has been in existence is irrelevant. I wish I hadn't mentioned it, it's not the point!

Just pointing out that you have previous on jumping to the wrong conclusions.
It's ironic we've come from being sued by players for not paying contract money to now being accused for now paying them too much money.

The one thing in Marwans favour is his top legal team ie dealing with Kevin Locke and others dont think the R.F.L. stand a chance.

Is it a company registered in the UK? Is it VAT registered? Some very interesting courses. Maybe Tony P taught on some of them?

If you've seen the courses on offer you should also see its registered address is Mount pleasant Liverpool across the road from John Moores university

Without wanting to derail the thread, if you look back at my posts re Rangi Chase I simply stated it would be extremely difficult for him to get a visa based on the regulations at the time. I quite clearly said it wasn't impossible but would be a hurdle he needed to jump.

In terms of jumping to conclusions, I think I've always tempered my posts with some acknowledgement that nothing is yet proven.

His legal team have no jurisdiction with the RFL though. If Salford want to be in competitions run by the RFL they have to follow the RFL's oiled be a waste of time and money to try and get out of the situation by challenging the rules themselves.

Your not far of with Tony Puletua he was used alot last season doing the community and education thing, never could get my head round why someone who was told he wouldn't play hung around the club until he went to HKR

Yep I'm sure that's what you said regarding the visa.










Well it was eventually.

It's what he now always says he's said. He posted loads saying it wasn't going to happen. A couple of times he said something like 'it's not impossible, nothing is impossible but.....' Bla blah blah

He pops up as the resident RLFans legal/financial/commercial expert every time salford's off field antics come up. He has a mild obsession! And he almost always gets it wrong. Let's hope so on this one too

I am by no means an expert in the salary cap, and don't claim to be. I have no more knowledge about the internal business of Salford or the RFL than anyone else.
The idea of a forum is so people can voice reasonable opinion and apace reasonable debate, and to these ends I think it's appropriate to post in here. I contribute on other boards too and would be making the same comments regardless of the team involved.

As said earlier, if this was my club my annoyance would be directed at the fool who has got you into this situation through his constant criticism of the RFL and his ridiculous comments that he intended to break the salary cap. It really is no wonder the RFL decided to have a look at the club given the fact your owner said he would do it! If it's true, he has been taking all Salford's loyal fans for a ride taking their money whilst knowing any success could be tainted by the stench of cheating.

I thought I was clear. I did not ask about an address.

this whole thing may blow over. Much fuss was made about Chase getting a visa and umpteen players were said to be certainties to win 'legal cases'. Yet the Reds were successful.