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| Surely Wigan wont play Gildart on Carneys wing will they? If they do, that has to be the side we attack. Sarginson and Gildart are the defensive weak links in that team. Sa’u and Carney should run over the top of them both, literally.
Hopefully our kicking game is directed to Gildart all night long too. It makes absolutely no sense in kicking to Manfredi.
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| Can't see anything but a comfortable, routine Wigan victory tomorrow!
Obviously hope I'm wrong though!
If we play anything like we did in the last 50 minutes against Widnes, we'll get smashed!
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| Quote ="The Perry Boy"Can't see anything but a comfortable, routine Wigan victory tomorrow!
Obviously hope I'm wrong though!
If we play anything like we did in the last 50 minutes against Widnes, we'll get smashed!'"
Apart from Browns 40/20 kick their other try's come from our mistakes. The offside from kick off, Carney's off load and god knows what O'Brien was doing for their last try. We wasted a few opportunity's ourselves with Griffin and Johnson. My only concern as i already said was how slow we was attacking with twenty minutes to go. They all looked tired. So i hope they recoverd well in the last few days since its nearly the same 19.
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| The wigan 19 man squad is a lot stronger than I thought. We can win but Wigan are the favourites
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| I said you would turn Widnes over and i think you will also turn Wigan over.
You can see there is confidence in the team and that counts for a lot
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| I agree that people need to reign their expectations in. I didn't think we played that well on Sunday. We made far too many mistakes and overplayed when there was no need to.
If we make as few errors as we did against saints we will have a chance but Sunday showed that we intend to move the ball a lot sp it is hard not to make mistakes. If we'd played more sensible rugby at times then I don't think Widnes would have got near us. When we were 12-0 up I was convinced we were going to lose because of how we were playing. After going 22-0 up I was more confident but we still nearly lost.
That is not because Widnes were amazing. They were good but unspectacular. If we play anything like that against Wigan we will lose comfortably. Wigan are a much better and more experienced team than Widnes. They will punish us. Hopefully we will play more like we did against Saints
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| Not seen such a poor reffing display in a long time, extremely strange decisions going against both sides.
Although I couldn't see from the other end, a lot of people saying that it was a blatant knock on prior to the last try.
First half though we were our own worst enemy and the likes of Lui didn't look interested, not sure we actually attacked their line.
The set completion rate for the entire game mustn't have been more than 30%.
In defence Carney frustrates so much always stands 10 yards in leaving his winger which Wigan exploited numerous times.
Second half we seemed to switch on and realise we still had s chance, that try from BMM where he steam rolled Farrell I think I'd like to see again.
Real arm wrestle which could've gone either way and a share of the spoils would've been a fair result.
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| Quote ="DirkDiggler"Not seen such a poor reffing display in a long time, extremely strange decisions going against both sides.
Although I couldn't see from the other end, a lot of people saying that it was a blatant knock on prior to the last try.
First half though we were our own worst enemy and the likes of Lui didn't look interested, not sure we actually attacked their line.
The set completion rate for the entire game mustn't have been more than 30%.
In defence Carney frustrates so much always stands 10 yards in leaving his winger which Wigan exploited numerous times.
Second half we seemed to switch on and realise we still had s chance, that try from BMM where he steam rolled Farrell I think I'd like to see again.
Real arm wrestle which could've gone either way and a share of the spoils would've been a fair result.'"
I've seen some poor refereeing at schoolboy/amateurs level, but that takes the biscuit.
Terrible for both sides.
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| Quote ="martin13"I've seen some poor refereeing at schoolboy/amateurs level, but that takes the biscuit.
Terrible for both sides.'"
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| Quote ="DirkDiggler"
First half though we were our own worst enemy and the likes of Lui didn't look interested, not sure we actually attacked their line.'" In the first half we must of made a clean break around 3 times including an earlier one from Lui however the support play was poor again and we pi$$ed away them chances which could of led to us winning.
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| Quote ="DirkDiggler"Not seen such a poor reffing display in a long time, extremely strange decisions going against both sides.
Although I couldn't see from the other end, a lot of people saying that it was a blatant knock on prior to the last try.
First half though we were our own worst enemy and the likes of Lui didn't look interested, not sure we actually attacked their line.
The set completion rate for the entire game mustn't have been more than 30%.
In defence Carney frustrates so much always stands 10 yards in leaving his winger which Wigan exploited numerous times.
Second half we seemed to switch on and realise we still had s chance, that try from BMM where he steam rolled Farrell I think I'd like to see again.
Real arm wrestle which could've gone either way and a share of the spoils would've been a fair result.'"
SHOWN on Sky,dropped the play the ball,and knocked on,apart from that it was a good try!
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| I wasn't referring to breaks from inside our own half, more to putting pressure on the goal line from their 10 yard line.
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| So close yet to far.
We're starting to become a lot more consistent as a team, and although we made too many errors and missed a few chances, I'm not disheartened at where we are at this stage of the competition. We'll pick up wins away from home, and as long as we stay strong at home we'll be in a decent position come the end of the year. For a very new team we're really gelling at a rapid pace and I'm looking forward to our team strengthening when our long term injuries start getting back to fitness.
I'm cautiously optimistic for the future as things stand. Onto next week.
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| A really decent effort last night, irrespective of Wigan's injuries. How the ref didn't see that knock-on is beyond me. In front of the Sky cameras the outcome could have been different.
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| Totally agree Butcher the future looks very bright.
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| You've got to take a lot of heart from that performance. We've had a very tough start and to pick up 2 wins already is better then anyone predicted i thought second half we was excellent were starting to look like a team and i look forward to the game against Wire (hopefully make AJ a fortress). I thought Kopczak looked class again that one on one steal was first class. I do however feel we need another prop Kopczak and Griffin are playing long minutes as i feel were a little under strength in this position but hey the future does look very good. Happy salford fan!!!!!!
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| I did not go to the game but just watched the highlights here [urlhttp://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/rugby-league/10181672/wigan-20-16-salford[/url
I am gob smacked that knock on was not spotted!
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| Glad we're competing, however that game to me hurts that it was there for the taking. Josh Griffins defensive anomalies cost us the game, i'd flirt him back to the wing. Period
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| Quote ="shibshob"I did not go to the game but just watched the highlights here [urlhttp://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/rugby-league/10181672/wigan-20-16-salford[/url
I am gob smacked that knock on was not spotted!'"
The more I see it, the more angry I get
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| A few observations from last night:
I watched the game from the 'main stand'. When amongst the travelling supporters it is often hard to gauge how loud the support is. Safe to say, we won that contest hands down last night . Very little noise from the Wigan fans (none without the accompaniment of 'that' drum).
To come away disappointed at a narrow loss shows how far we are progressing. Thought for long periods we more than matched them. It's a shame we couldn't finish off our first half breaks like they did. We have our best half backs for over a decade, and they will only get better.
An elderly Wigan fan turned around at full time and told my young boys not to feel despondent - that is the best Salford side he has seen there for many years (so they aren't all one-eyed obnoxious so and so's).
The ref was awful. Simply awful. But for both teams. The knock on he missed at the end is a prime example, but I thought he could have done Gorge Griffin for not paying the ball correctly before Murdoch-Masila's try. Let's not focus on the ref - we need to accept it and move on.
If we play every week like we have for the last 3 I will be making more away trips as finally (hopefully) we have a TEAM worth watching.
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| Quote ="DirkDiggler" In defence Carney frustrates so much always stands 10 yards in leaving his winger which Wigan exploited numerous times.'"
I bet he stands even further in when you visit Cas in a couple of weeks!
On a serious note, this is the issue with Carney, he can score tries others can't through brute force, but he concedes tries like a schoolboy.
Saw the highlights, you can only imagine that all the officials were looking somehwere else when the ball was dropped, it wasn't even subtle. Another example of why having video refs at certain games is unfair, had it been the your game on last night you would have an extra 2 points on the board.
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| As much as it pains me to say it... It seems we may all be wrong on the knock on incident.
Having watched this back a number of times... The ball is knocked out by Walne... So had this been on TV and gone to the screen, at best it would have been a penalty to Wigan in front of the sticks.
Therefore... probably losing the game anyway.
That's not to say the referee wasn't poor and give some dodgy decisions and Salford didn't deserve at least a draw from the game.
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| One of the worst refereeing displays I can remember, for both teams. It's a credit to both teams that they made it such an entertaining 80 minutes when Stokes seemed adamant on ruining it through his constant blowing.
I thought our first 40 was very disappointing, similarly to Widnes last week we gifted Wigan possession of the ball through our own mistakes. Flanagan losing the ball for their first try and then after a good set, instead of pinning them in their own 20 we're too slow in defence and allow them to the full length again. We made 3 or 4 great breaks in the first half and got nothing from them, whereas Wigan always had support options, we had none. (I accept the turnaround for this game was particularly short too).
I thought we improved second half and had a really good 15 minute spell, once we finally got over it looked like something had clicked.
Came away disappointed that we didn't get at least a point, but on the other hand I felt last night (and the previous two games) had shown me enough to suggest we will be challenging for a top 8 place this season. Thankfully the players have a decent rest ahead of them before Warrington next week, should be another cracker.
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| Quote ="LoyalFan"As much as it pains me to say it... It seems we may all be wrong on the knock on incident.
Having watched this back a number of times... The ball is knocked out by Walne... So had this been on TV and gone to the screen, at best it would have been a penalty to Wigan in front of the sticks.
Therefore... probably losing the game anyway.
That's not to say the referee wasn't poor and give some dodgy decisions and Salford didn't deserve at least a draw from the game.'"
don't see it that way myself,you players hand was nowhere near the ball,blatant knock on that was missed by all the officials
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| Quote ="brook40"don't see it that way myself,you players hand was nowhere near the ball,blatant knock on that was missed by all the officials'"
Have a word with yourself you mentalist, there's video evidence to back it up. There's clearly a hand in at the PTB and the fact that the Salford players say nothing speaks volumes.
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