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| It's nice to see he has had a change of attitude towards us (Cas). He had a reputation of being anti-Cas and I was near him at the Fev - Cas cup tie a couple of years back, when he was cheering Fev on to the hilt. If he wanted to cheer them on, to be fair that's his perogative, but some of the venom that came our way was totally uncalled for. Then again there were a couple of other well known RL figures and they adopted the same attitude.
He comes across to me as very embittered towards certain aspects of the modern game, and it is also evident that he does not like Aussie coaches, coaching over here. Maybe the fact that we are now coached by an old international team mate and friend of his, has something to do with his new attitude towards us. Incidentally his son also played with us in the second team for a while but never made it. I don't know whether that had a bearing on his previous enmity towards us, as I never could understand it.
I suppose with the new owner pouring money into your club, it now makes you a new target for him. As I have said in a previous post Dr MK, coming into our game cannot possibly be anything but good for it, but unfortunately jealousy is a funny thing, and many don't see it that way.
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| Quote ="charlie"I would say that is a fair viewpoint though. Some poor decisions made in the off season bringing in players like Meli and Morley.
Should be a different story for Salford next year.'"
You have had some bad advice so far. Unfortunately RL is awash with not just agents but 'middlemen' that will get teams to sign players on at inflated prices, not for the good of the club, but for the benefit of themselves. We had the problem big style at Cas with nearly all overseas players being signed from the same agent, who just happened to be a big mate and associate of the club employee who was charged with the task of recommending them.
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| What is "The Star on Sunday"? It is not a publication with which I am familiar. Is it rather like various unpleasant newspapers, calling themselves "The Mail on Sunday" and equally unimaginative things? I would suggest you stop buying it and reading it.
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| I see Meli and Morley's names mentioned quite a lot when people are talking about supposed 'bad signings'.
The facts are though that Meli's our leading try scorer (scoring more then double the next player and the only player to break double figures this year) and Morley's our leading metre maker (out of the props).
The question is: Are they really as poor a signing as what people make out?
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| Quote ="The Perry Boy"I see Meli and Morley's names mentioned quite a lot when people are talking about supposed 'bad signings'.
The facts are though that Meli's our leading try scorer (scoring more then double the next player and the only player to break double figures this year) and Morley's our leading metre maker (out of the props).
The question is: Are they really as poor a signing as what people make out?'"
I don't think they have been terrible. They are, however, only stop-gaps.
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| I mentioned the other day that I'd love to see the stats for the meters made by Meli in the act of scoring, I doubt it will be many.
As for Morley he has done better than I thought he would and at the risk of tempting fate he has remained pretty much injury free.
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| Tommy Docherty once said that the problem with Ted MacDougal was that he was useless apart from scoring goals.
Meli is a stopgap,which is why he was only given a one year deal,but he's done what it says on the tin.
Bugger the yards he's covered,he's in the try scoring charts
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| Quote ="Zimmerman"It's nice to see he has had a change of attitude towards us (Cas).'"
I think it is because it suits Garry Schofield.
He has something to do with Wish and they sponsored Castleford.
He must have liked you since then. [url=http://www.castigers.com/article.php?id=2681Story[/url
I think the mutual enmity between him and Hull FC (Adam Pearson ) is bubbling along nicely but he does seem to have been incorrect for a change [url=http://www.totalrl.com/garry-schofield-10-wishes-2014/Number 3[/url
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| 'Schoy' may well be too controversial at times. But you can't argue with his criticisms of your club this season. He's spot on saying you are a club trying to run before you can walk and Garry constantly criticising Koukash's soundbites.
His praise of Cas was correct too. Even more considering their player recruitment compared to yours.
Salford fans need to accept the likes of Cas AND Widnes are much bigger clubs than their own. You need to overhaul those clubs before dreaming about competing with Wigan,St Helens and Leeds.
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| Quote ="WidnesJohn"'Schoy' may well be too controversial at times. But you can't argue with his criticisms of your club this season. He's spot on saying you are a club trying to run before you can walk and Garry constantly criticising Koukash's soundbites.
His praise of Cas was correct too. Even more considering their player recruitment compared to yours.
Salford fans need to accept the likes of Cas AND Widnes are much bigger clubs than their own. You need to overhaul those clubs before dreaming about competing with Wigan,St Helens and Leeds.'"
Oh. OK. Must admit, you can count on the fingers of one of Abu Hamza's hands the number of people on here who think we're up to competing with Wigan, Saints and Leeds, but you obviously needed to get something off your chest. I bet it was that "Widnes are a much bigger club" bit.
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| I've just caught up on three newly updated threads on here, and they are all choc-full with comments from opposing fans. In fact two of them were started by fans from other clubs.
Do our fans go on their boards as much, offering them so many pearls of wisdom? I know we have had the odd loose canon go rogue in the past, but I hope we don't conduct ourselves in such an embarrassing fashion.
Can't help but notice most of them are Cas or Chemics fans. "One swallow" and all that...
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| I've never swallowed in my life and I'm not starting now.
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| Quote ="Derek Smalls"I've just caught up on three newly updated threads on here, and they are all choc-full with comments from opposing fans. In fact two of them were started by fans from other clubs.
Do our fans go on their boards as much, offering them so many pearls of wisdom? I know we have had the odd loose canon go rogue in the past, but I hope we don't conduct ourselves in such an embarrassing fashion.
Can't help but notice most of them are Cas or Chemics fans. "One swallow" and all that...'"
It does tend to be Cas and Widnes fans. Don't know why, but I'd be surprised if it wasn't something to do with both towns having chemical related industries in the area, with the obvious stunting of emotional and intellectual development that can lead to.
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| Quote ="Ponterflfan"I've never swallowed in my life and I'm not starting now.'"
Oh dear
And the irony in the fact that it was a Cas fan that cropped up first after my last post isn't lost on any of us here. QED.
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| Quote ="WidnesJohn"'Schoy' may well be too controversial at times. But you can't argue with his criticisms of your club this season. He's spot on saying you are a club trying to run before you can walk and Garry constantly criticising Koukash's soundbites.
His praise of Cas was correct too. Even more considering their player recruitment compared to yours.
Salford fans need to accept the likes of Cas AND Widnes are much bigger clubs than their own. You need to overhaul those clubs before dreaming about competing with Wigan,St Helens and Leeds.'"
I bet you voted UKIP too. There's a certain condescending tone to your post that reminds me of the moronic half of UKIP. Like we needed a Widnes fan to come on here and proclaim 'truths'. Who do you think you are? A Cas fan?
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| Quote ="WidnesJohn"Schofield was having a right go at Salford in today's Star on Sunday.
For those who didn't see it he slated your performance against Wigan whilst bigging them up and then dismissed Salford as 'dads army'.'"
Not seen the article but I don't blame him for his dislike of Salford under this current idiot Dr Cockrash. He's made Salford a laughing stock, it's like a soap opera.
I used to like Salford and liked them to win when not playing saints but now I don't like the Salford club at all.
This Dr expects instant success and shown no respect to rugby league at all. He days he wants what's best for rugby league but what he really means he wants Salford to be the 80s version of Wigan by signing every player under the sun and pay them the earth.
His signings have been dreadful and I don't believe for one min that noble signed these players. The team is old, has no balance and full of over the hill rubbish.
Why didn't he promise a 5 year plan where he can start with youth and Develop good young local talent ? Because he's wants to waltz in, blow few mil on Salford to win something then ride off into the sunset.
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| Quote ="St pete"Not seen the article but I don't blame him for his dislike of Salford under this current idiot Dr Cockrash. He's made Salford a laughing stock, it's like a soap opera.
I used to like Salford and liked them to win when not playing saints but now I don't like the Salford club at all.
This Dr expects instant success and shown no respect to rugby league at all. He days he wants what's best for rugby league but what he really means he wants Salford to be the 80s version of Wigan by signing every player under the sun and pay them the earth.
His signings have been dreadful and I don't believe for one min that noble signed these players. The team is old, has no balance and full of over the hill rubbish.
Why didn't he promise a 5 year plan where he can start with youth and Develop good young local talent ? Because he's wants to waltz in, blow few mil on Salford to win something then ride off into the sunset.'"
House! And all in one succinct post, hats off to you.
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| Another opposing fan who has 'stumbled' onto the Turkey. I wonder how many of St pete's (sic) nigh-on 13,000 posts have been similarly patronising, name-calling, hate-filled diatribes splashed over other team's forums?
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| Quote ="St pete"Not seen the article but I don't blame him for his dislike of Salford under this current idiot Dr Cockrash. He's made Salford a laughing stock, it's like a soap opera.
I used to like Salford and liked them to win when not playing saints but now I don't like the Salford club at all.
This Dr expects instant success and shown no respect to rugby league at all. He days he wants what's best for rugby league but what he really means he wants Salford to be the 80s version of Wigan by signing every player under the sun and pay them the earth.
His signings have been dreadful and I don't believe for one min that noble signed these players. The team is old, has no balance and full of over the hill rubbish.
Why didn't he promise a 5 year plan where he can start with youth and Develop good young local talent ? Because he's wants to waltz in, blow few mil on Salford to win something then ride off into the sunset.'"
Personal opinion? Check! Condescending tone? Check! Barely disguised disdain dressed-up as informative prose? Check!
I always knew it was going to be tough as a Salford fan in the Koucash era, nobody told me that I'd have to wade through mountains of other fans bellendery as they calmly squeeze out each constipated nugget of opinion. Take note of that. Opinion. Not facts, which is what any worthy diatribe must follow.
Would it be too bold to suggest that opposition fans who feel the need to lecture us on any aspect of RL, be it rational or otherwise, do so with like minded peers away from us long suffering Salford fans who , believe it or not, have heard every variation of the 'humorous' Koukash name. Every long proposed solution to our ills. Every dressed-up criticism. To their own part of the forum. Where like-minded individuals can gloat over their own perceived superiority safe in the knowledge that someone is actually listening to this particular brand of diarrhea.
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| The big question is: what's set poor Pete off at ten to eleven at night? Has he been stewing on it all day? Sat at work seething? Or has he had a couple of drinks and it's just come to him? Maybe watching Question Time and it's got him all riled? "That ruddy Dr Cockrash. I ruddy hate him. Oh Pete, you're not going to sleep until you get on that ruddy Scarlet Turkey and tell them all about it."
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| Quote ="St pete"I used to like Salford and liked them to win when not playing saints but now I don't like the Salford club at all. '"
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| Give them a break guys it's not that long ago the same men? of wisdom were calling for us to be thrown out of the sport because no one noticed we existed now they're stalking us
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| Quote ="stouffer"The big question is: what's set poor Pete off at ten to eleven at night? Has he been stewing on it all day? Sat at work seething? Or has he had a couple of drinks and it's just come to him? Maybe watching Question Time and it's got him all riled? "That ruddy Dr Cockrash. I ruddy hate him. Oh Pete, you're not going to sleep until you get on that ruddy Scarlet Turkey and tell them all about it."'"
It was 5-50pm where I was matey.
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| Quote ="St pete"It was 5-50pm where I was matey.'"
Perhaps you've not learned how to set the clock on your computer
"Thu May 29, 2014 10:48 pm" is what your post says - that's when the big hand and the little hand are getting somewhere near the top in case you're not so hot with the digits?
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