This is my thoughts entirely too.

I'm not sure why Cas and Salford fans are having sly digs at one another.

Lets just move on and look forward to next season.

I'm not sure it's meaningless considering when anyone (including potential sponsors) look at the table Salford will now have a *deducted 2 points for... On it. And for the 2013 season it will be like that through history now.

I think we'll get over it. Thanks for the concern though...

but you can't surely believe that? It's an insult to you as fans if that's the view of the club.

You're still paying your money to watch a rugby team - you don't tell your loyal fans "ah bugger it, we can't be bothered this year, next year's where it's at!"

if that's the case they may as well let you all in at half price - if they aren't trying this year so why should you pay full

You seem to have real difficulty in differentiating between what fans opinions are and the actual Clubs. I've tried to explain but you seem a little special.

I don't often stick up for Salford but in this instance I have to agree that the two point deduction means nothing to the club this season other than whether or not the swap places with London.

The incident was an honest if not foolish mistake and that's all.

If as the fans are led to believe they are recruiting for a top four push next year then this will have paled into insignificance by then.

What I do think is that Koukash should see this as the RL flexing their muscles following a series of comments he has made and from that point of view the club would be better quietly going about it's business and when the achieve their goals then start sticking two fingers up at everyone else.

For now "line under the sand" springs to mind.

Whatever happened to a right to appeal?! Seems harsh that the punishment should be increased simply because it was unsuccessful...unless it was frivolous and completely without merit...??

Correct me if I'm wrong but did Saints get a points deduction for fielding an extra player.....NO!

The Cas fans that are saying it was lenient for us not to get a deduction in the first place need to look at this as the standard for punishment for this offence. I would suggest that the club maybe appealed on the principle that the fine was a increase of 1000% on what Saints got.

Cheating?

Again correct me if I'm wrong but did Saints, Wigan and Bradford get points deducted for breaking salary cap....NO!

That is what I would call cheating.

Cheating?
what punishment did Jordan Tansey get for tackling Danny Williams around the head preventing him from scoring a try that would have made the Cas attack irrelevant at the end of the game as they would have been 2 scores behind.

If we are going to be rediculous about it shall we also deduct 2 points from Cas for every game they play on a pitch that is shorter than ours and turns up in one corner like a british rail sandwich....cos it gives them an unfair advantage!
We should also deduct 2 points from Wigan for fielding a player against us who tested positive and scored a try in the match that helped them beat us.
Why don't we deduct 2 points from Hull for the howler that Ganson made at magic weekend....and so on...and so on....and so on!!!!

Does anyone know the prize fund table in SL? I know the premier league one is published often. Only reason I ask it because would it of been worth our while just taking the extra 5K on the chin. If the monies earned from finishing 13 to 14 is greater than 5K? Strange one for me appealing.

No problems with the punishment so long as this is the benchmark for ALL future offences of this nature.
It's left me wondering if this is the RFL finally growing a pair and getting tough with clubs that break the rules in future.l
Looking forward to see how they deal with those clubs that promised new stadiums in their franchise bids and have nothing to show while other clubs like Salford and Saints took the warnings the RFL gave out about delivering new stadiums and delivered as per franchise bids.

That's a good point. The RFL have set a precedent here which means that all equivalent offences in the future should adhere to the same financial penalty or points deduction. I've got no doubt that it'll come back to bite them on the when they fail to do exactly that.

Neither did Salford...

I don't care!

I think if Salford just say sorry to the rest of super league for trying to cheat you will all feel better and we can put it all behind us

I think you might want to brush-up on something called OPERATIONAL RULES.

"Salford were deemed to be in breach of operational rules B1.1 (general competition rules - laws of the game); B2:4 (match day operations manual (section D15 - interchange); and D1.8 (a) (serious or persistent breach of the RFL operational rules)."

Mistakes from referee's like the Ganson incident or even missing a high tackle like Tansey's don't come into it I'm afraid and pitch dimensions certainly don't.

Isnt it odd that only Cas & Widnes Forumites have the slightest interest in this subject? You know the type of people - `Finger waggers` to make a point. All unnecessary & time to move on.

Just a small point of order, Salford, (the club), didn't deliver a new stadium and further appear to be makng a hash of fulfilling their obligations, post delivery by others. All be it based on an 'over enthusiastic' set of figures from your previous set up. Ah but never mind that doesn't count, yes that's right it was the the old regime.......

Oh and I don't understand why you guy's (the club not you posters, Butcher is that ok?) appealed. You must have other things to sort out and should have moved on, it was yesterday's news.

One of the best posts I've ever read on RL fans. You sum things up absolutely perfectly.

But now we have J20, what do you think this thread is about?

You are correct Tigerade, non of that matters. My post was designed to show how stupid and petty your post about cheating was. However, what it further illustrates is that in this nonsense of a game you get punished more for making a silly inadvertant mistake than you do for trying to knock someones head off. Barmy!!!

And who has delivered most other new stadiums? Answer: Supermarkets because new stadia unlocks the land for them (Fact)

I'm sure Salford would have gone this same route but for the big bully boys at Peel threatening to object and create indefinite delays to anything they aren't involved in.

Strange how the RFL seem to consider briefly fielding 14 players as serious an offence as previous salary cap breaches from other clubs.

Might be something to do with us occupying the 3rd tier of SL ? Why would Wigan and Leeds fans be interested in this subject ? It doesn't concern their club.

Because you appealed. Had you had accepted your punishment as other sides did it wouldn't have been an issue. Hence you can't compare the 2. Nor can people day this now sets a precedent. It only sets a precedent to clubs who appeal and that appeal is then rejected.

Contrary to popular belief, "bully boys" Peel don't own every scrap of land IN Salford, you weren't forced to move to Barton surely? Yes most stadia are delivered by partnerships based on mutual benefits, a bit of planning gain here if you like for a subsidised venture there. This might involve a supermarket, or the stadia might unlock another aspect of commercial development nearby along the banks of the Ship Canal if you like, it has to be paid for after all and you hadn't got the proverbial pot?

Your club, sorry old regime, could have gone elsewhere with your '8,000 fans' after all it was the only thing that you were bringing to the party? Oh hang on a minute you haven't got 8,000 fans, but, never mind eh that was the old regime. Given time, when you are successful, they will come in droves don't worry seems to be the new message from the new regime.

Well it might just take a bit longer than you think and whilst I wish you well on your 'rollercoaster, let's write this season off journey', it seems a bit rich having a go at other clubs who haven't got an investor, or a City Council so easily duped, so pat yourself on your own head for now