One thing that was noticable yesterday was the lack of communication when we conceded a try. Half of the players were standing and staring at the big screen to see who was to blame. It should be a time to get your heads together, get motivated and clear your head. I didn't see any leadership qualities on that pitch yesterday.

A serious lack of interest from most of the players. Morale is obviously low but it doesn't excuse not giving your all.

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At 32 Stephen Wild's got to be worth another year at least I think on reduced contract terms. I'd offer him 50% take it or leave it. Wildy still has the workrate and creative skills to put players over the try line as he showed at the millenium. I think he's just playing at the back of a lightweight, lazy pack that has no runners or aggression.

I assume this is a wind up!

You will see the real Nobbys next year when he is coaching money as opposed to players, there are very few good man management coaches. About these days and its the guys working with a decent cheque book that shine. That said you should go well next year.
Any spare brass just chuck it to us at Cas

I like Sneyd but he's been coughing up tries in recent games so had to be stood down.

Saying that, did anyone see who missed tackles (by some distance!) for each of Wakey's three opening tries? Watch the highlights. It was terrible!

Who was it?

You'd have to assume so!

Gaskell. Quality footballer but big issues in defence

Gaskell is no more a full back than McGoldrick is a Stand Off, or Foran a hooker.

He's the only one out of that trio who has the potential to get better though.

We must have the worst import roster in Super League history!

Are the chuckle brothers contracted for next year or will we need to pay them off,to return to Oz?

Not a happy ship if today's Sun article is anything to go by. Although it could just be mischievous reporting. www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... ts-46.html

Not a happy ship if today's Sun article is anything to go by. Although it could just be mischievous reporting. www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... ts-46.html

Quote ="theredshed"Not a happy ship if today's Sun article is anything to go by. Although it could just be mischievous reporting. www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... ts-46.html'" That reporter sounds frustrated just like every other non Salford fan about Koukash stating in the press that we'll be signing world class players, we know August the 9th is the date but I think everyone else is getting about frustrated and want the Doc do something.

Quote ="theredshed"Not a happy ship if today's Sun article is anything to go by. Although it could just be mischievous reporting. www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... ts-46.html'" That reporter sounds frustrated just like every other non Salford fan about Koukash stating in the press that we'll be signing world class players, we know August the 9th is the date but I think everyone else is getting about frustrated and want the Doc do something.

Not sure that I understand the panic.
This season was always a write off,just a bloody miracle we started it.
What is it,7 or 8 games to go and we just need to bite the bullet and put up with them .
Better players were never going to be signed during the season and there was no point signing inferior players just because they were available.
Keep the faith,support the coaching team and trust the good doctor.
Fingers crossed that the signings make us sit up and notice !
Otherwise we do need to worry

On a lighter note
Best Quote from last night :-
Hi Brian - Bad result Eh , but at least nobody Died
" They will when I get hold of them tomorrow morning "

Thing is with Koukash's statements regarding signings it must of come from Noble originally?. I mean how does Koukash know who's world class or international standard he's only been in the sport 5 months.
It's Noble who's been sourcing players it's Noble who's shut the door on signings for this year for reasons stated in the press that there's no real quality players left to take us forward in the 2013 season, and last but not Least I think Noble is playing players like mcgoldrick and foran in positions not suited to them for a reason I think he knows they both stink but by constantly playing them and letting them show their selves up it's giving him a reason to get rid of them based on bad performances, I mean if mcgoldrick was say playing in the second rows and had more solid performances than poor then there would be no case to get rid same with foran, hes letting them tie the noose around their own neck instead of doing it for them, same can be said for other players in the squad aswel.
To Noble the rest of this year is a early 2014 pre season project let the crap come to the surface get rid and keep the ones that have potential and are worth keeping to take the club forward.

Wakefield have a very big pack with only Washbrook and Kirmond on the smaller size. Wilkes, Amor, Poore and Ali and perhaps Mariano are all over 17 stone - didn't see a Salford player who looked that size.

Size isn't everything but it still hurts and when a big pack wants to beat a small pack the result is usually waht happened last night. You certainly need some grunt up front.

Nevermind Brian Noble, I feel sorry for myself after sitting through that last night!

Only 9 more games left of watching crap! Then hopefully the new Red Devils will give the super league "hell" sorry couldn't resist.

Quote ="theredshed"Not a happy ship if today's Sun article is anything to go by. Although it could just be mischievous reporting. www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... ts-46.html'" The sun is only good for one thing,and its not reading.

Quote ="theredshed"Not a happy ship if today's Sun article is anything to go by. Although it could just be mischievous reporting. www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... ts-46.html'" The sun is only good for one thing,and its not reading.

Nothing personal but Mauro, Foran and McGoldrick have all proved to be shocking signings. Vievers should be acknowledged for making the worse signings in superleague history. I think his sacking was justified on making these signings alone regardless of poor results.

The former Manly reserves arrived unfit and have been given plenty time now but they are simply not good enough for this level and certainly not the kind of players we need if we want to progress.

I am at a total loss at how Mauro figured in an NRL Grand Final. I can only think he has suffered some kind of permanent injury since then. Just what was Vievers thinking offering these boys 3 year contracts and McGoldrick 2 years? To compound matters I’m told all three players are on big money.

So what can the club do going forward because we can’t afford to be carrying a couple of passengers that are taking up quota spots? One solution could be to try and move them on to championship clubs and offer to make a sizeable contribution towards their contracts.

I've got to agree with that assessment.

All three are offering us nothing and have had ample opportunity to show otherwise.

I didn't hear of or see anyone having a pop at Noble, I did see the players getting some stick, but thats understandable after the dross they served up. However whilst we're on the subject of Noble surely it's time to bring Gareth Owen back in? I can't for the life of me understand why Noble has dropped him other that he likes to play experienced players (and always has) for some reason. Get Sneyd back in at fullback, give Gaskell a go at 6 with Theo at 7 and Owen back at 9. And bring anyone in for Mauro I don't care who, someone from the disabled section will do (no offence meant to anyone apart from Mauro of course).