Think if you look some of the old regimes detractors have disappeared since the Doctor took over and then in last couple of weeks or so there seems to be more and more newer posters bringing up the past.

Coincidence?

All this talk of old regime look forward not back its not us etc does you little credit it was your club after all not some faceless corporate enterprise who's inadequacies are still being felt it would seem and that can't be right?

I seem to recall that on a recent thread posters were advocating that the 'good' doctor should use th past to his advantage in bidding to buy Barton business is business after all How can that be right when your club was part of the malaise? Oh I'm sorry it was the old regime

At this tme when you as a club have looked back and chosen to change names to incorporate Red Devils recognising your heritage perhaps in future years rebranding as Cowboys might be more appropriate?

Aren't most if the monies owed being paid back via the cva? Which would explain the 'don't look back' comments.

Rico, you seem.to have a massive chip on your shoulder regarding Salford, as seen with your snide comments regarding the city of Salford/Swinton on the wire forum. Not sure why this is?

If ou was owed money in that CVA and you needed it now hoe would you feel about waiting five years to recover what is rightly yours.?

A whole lot better than I would have done if the club had gone under, with all prospects of getting anything all gone with it.

You do know what the V stands for aye?

You do know the moral side of one don't you, you know the bit where the voluntary bit is forced on the creditor but really in the five years it takes to be repaid untold damage could be done to that creditors business since his cash flow projections are no longer viable in his business model so he looks to perhaps shrink his business using redundancies maybe.
That's the harsh reality of V.

Pretty rich banging on about morals when you come on here bleating about redundancies just to score points against rival fans mate. Welcome to capitalism though - can be pretty harsh eh? Bearing in mind that the other option was that creditors received absolutely nothing, ever, how would this scenario have played out in the Peoples Democratic Republic of Swinton?

You asked for an understanding of V the fact I gave you a reasoned understanding and it doesn't sit comfortably with you, is your problem.

Not much to argue about though is there: business goes bust, has unpleasant consequences. SCR are far from a unique case though - you haven't explained what your better solution is because you haven't got one. It's point scoring, and it's pathetic.

If you're genuinely concerned about what happens in these circumstances, may I politely suggest you contact your MP, rather than boring on about it on here? You won't though, obviously, because you couldn't give a monkeys. Cheerio.

Edit: Hang on, you're a frigging accountant? This will literally never end will it? Welcome to the block list Marshy - you'll be gutted, I know...

No massive chip here and snide's a new one I'm usually accussed of being smug

I tend to agree with Marshy's take on the current state of affairs and think that there is an underlying unfairness about it all andthis new thread that should be filed in Room 101 was started by your on fan? The last time it was aired I was informed that it's just like the Olympics so stop complaining ha ha you couldn't make it up

I have posted some very positive stuff about your club sorry new regime on here and on my own board but never mind eh this board doesn't seem to enourage visitors and certainly not those that don't agree with the 'party' line

Apologies was referring to your post complaining about Salford town hall being in Swinton and the injustice of Swinton tax payers paying for our new ground while Swinton play in Leigh. Apparently this is all down to Salford RLFC and Salford council and nothing to do with other factors?

No need to apologise TS, I really do hope that as a club, you do get your act together, but, happen to have an opinion that whilst it might not be this regime's fault, there should be some recognition that the club had a role to play in proceedings and certainly not "oh let's move on it's yesterday's news" or even more unfairly," given the mess it's in, perhaps the 'good' doctor can get it for a knock down price"

I accept that the stadium malarkie is down to a variety of factors. Perhaps my 'beef' is after all with the City Council and their due diligence team, believing the premiss of "build it and they will come" and 8,000 at that. This is a difficult proposition given your team's current playing standing coupled with a move away from Weaste, the recession that we are having to cope with. Ok the 'sky might be the limit' but realistically what should have the investment team based their figures on? 5-6000 tops anything above would have been a bonus for me

oh and the Swinton thing, I don't know the in's and out's, but, if ever there was case for a joint facilty this surely was it, as it could have ticked a lot more political boxes, which after all seems to be a primary reason that it was developed in the first place together with an obvious planning gain by the private arm of development team.

I think it's time we stopped conversing with all these bitter and twisted people.

We still have a reality hanging over our heads, we not out of the woods yet.

Uncle Rico, like it or not is right. If the issue does not get addressed we don't have a long term future.

I am however optmisitic that the doctor will fix everything for us.

Would you care to elucidate?

Exactly what "reality" is hanging over our heads?

What "issue" is to be addressed or we "don't have a long term future"?

Assumedly we are still paying a high rent on a stadium that generates no income other than ticket sales.

We must have a target attendance that is required to break even.

Otherwise we are running at a loss.

Sale Shark's accounts show them running at a loss we get a much smaller gate than them and don't have the same level of finance union brings in from tv money.

With a typical gate of 2000 we must be running at a loss. If we are still on the same rent as last year we would require a significant attendance to make money.

If you take Koukash out of the equation we are back in the red again.

How as I have said before I optimistic the Doctor will sort out the problems.

Worst case senario Brian Kennedy buys the stadium and we are really screwed.

I am sure someone wants to tell I am wrong, but I can only go off news reports I have read. I don't mean the Salford Star.

Koukash will take a hit for so long, but I am sure even he has a limit to his generosity.

OK - yes I agree, I thought you were implying some hangover from the old Salford company.

Ultimately it needs a sound AND achievable business plan, we can only keep the faith that we have a much better chance of that being in place under Dr K than it ever was previously.

I'm not sure I'd see Kennedy as a threat at present, why would the council & Peel sell to one buyer rather than another? I suppose the real question is whether the stadium IS actually up for sale at present or whether the current owners would prefer to sit on their hands for a few years whilst the economy improves and the value of commercial premises rises, at which point they could realise a lot more.

The real question has to be how long Koukash.is prepared to bankroll your club. Apart from his credit rating little can have changed financially if anything worsening on the back of falling gates seen generally throughout Rugby League.
The hopes may well be pinned on a winning team being assembled next season the problem is what happens if the public don't respond.