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| I blame the club 100% because had they not signed these players in the first place the bigger clubs would not of wanted them from us. Yet another example of poor signings. The recruitment strategy going forward has to be about not only signing sh#te but loyal sh#te.
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| I'd say Moon and Holdsworth are different to Ratchford and Smith as the later 2 had reached the end of contracts and decided to move on. I have no problem with that, most of us would go for more money or different challenges.
As for the season ticket, I've had one since I was a kid, but I don't see this year as offering any value. With holidays etc I usually miss a couple of games, Monday games are difficult.
In previous years I have bought a season ticket in part to give the club the money up front. I am disillusioned with last season in particular. A move to the new ground should have been the start of a new era. The last season felt more a a duty than an enjoyable experience.
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| Martin Gleeson anyone...?
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| Quote ="Jibmeister"Yes indeed. The club's clearly struggling for cash and the team will need all the support they can get next season, but as you don't like the fact players are leaving you stay at home, keep warm, put your feet up and watch it all on Sky instead.'"
I think Red Willow was referring to the inconvenience of games being moved for sky, rather than being able to stay at home and watch them on tv. Monday night and 7.15pm on a Sunday are hardly fan friendly kick off times.
The main reason most people get a ST is to give a bit of money upfront to the club in the off season. With the lateness of them going on sale this year many people won't see the point now and just pay on the gate instead.
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| Quote ="Wheels"Martin Gleeson anyone...?'"
At the moment Jackie Gleeson would get a starting spot.
Wonder if they've let him go rather than pay him any owed back pay thus saving a fair bit. He was a class act when fit and will be a super star at Leeds but if he'd have spent all year pining for a move better he goes now. Seriously hope Ford is given a chance to stake his claim for a starting spot rather than Platt.
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| Whilst undoubtedly a loss if he does go, lets face it, Moon's off home at the end of next season anyway, so maybe not that much of a loss anyway, might as well rebuild fully now, rather than do the same again at then end of this season.
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| Quote ="Karlos13"I think Red Willow was referring to the inconvenience of games being moved for sky, rather than being able to stay at home and watch them on tv. Monday night and 7.15pm on a Sunday are hardly fan friendly kick off times.
The main reason most people get a ST is to give a bit of money upfront to the club in the off season. With the lateness of them going on sale this year many people won't see the point now and just pay on the gate instead.'"
Thanks, I was. The value of a season ticket is reduced further when the club runs deals for cheap tickets.
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| Quote ="Karlos13"The main reason most people get a ST is to give a bit of money upfront to the club in the off season. With the lateness of them going on sale this year many people won't see the point now and just pay on the gate instead.'"
How true I think that statement may turn out to be, we all know the club never tell how many they've sold or more to the point how many they've not sold, but my guess is they (if ever) will be lucky to move a couple of hundred this year.
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| The lateness of the release may prompt a few more to pay it by direct debit spreading the cost over the next 12 months and giving the club a all round income..... turns into a cheap verson of your council tax in a way and you can get on with christmas and saving for france ect
i would like to predict that when the club do announce the cost of a new season ticket there will be a lot of fans who shout
"HOW MUCH???....thats it for me never going again ect" just because they can
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| Quote ="The optimist"The lateness of the release may prompt a few more to pay it by direct debit spreading the cost over the next 12 months and giving the club a all round income..... '"
As opposed to what exactly Bobby ? them releasing the tickets early and people thinking fook that there early I won't bother I wanted to spread them over a different 12 months.
Ever thought of politics ?
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| Quote ="Salford red all over"Quote ="The optimist"The lateness of the release may prompt a few more to pay it by direct debit spreading the cost over the next 12 months and giving the club a all round income..... '"
As opposed to what exactly Bobby ? them releasing the tickets early and people thinking fook that there early I won't bother I wanted to spread them over a different 12 months.
Ever thought of politics ?'"
It's a win win for me people who can't raise the cash for one hit payment pay it over the next 12 month. The club get a steady income everyone is happy, with the takeover still on going would be unfair on our new owners not to have a say on the price on the season tickets?
Hopefully they will stagger the payments say ÂŁ50 1st payment then ÂŁ17.00 a month after or somethin
We shall see what happens
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| Quote ="metalheadred"Whilst undoubtedly a loss if he does go, lets face it, Moon's off home at the end of next season anyway, so maybe not that much of a loss anyway, might as well rebuild fully now, rather than do the same again at then end of this season.'"
Signed a 3 year deal at Rhino's.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Signed a 3 year deal at Rhino's.'"
D'oh.
Ohh well, my point still stands, as he wouldn't have been at Salford next season either way!
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| Quote ="The optimist"It's a win win for me people who can't raise the cash for one hit payment pay it over the next 12 month. The club get a steady income everyone is happy, with the takeover still on going would be unfair on our new owners not to have a say on the price on the season tickets?
Hopefully they will stagger the payments say ÂŁ50 1st payment then ÂŁ17.00 a month after or somethin
We shall see what happens'"
It's good job I know you as I'm on the verge of hunting you down after those last two posts.
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| Season tickets should be either a membership or a full ticket. There is no need to quote a membership price for full tickets, just list the price as ÂŁ180
Lets hope the release of info is simple & straight forward
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| Those who are still paying the ÂŁ15 per month by DD are if I remember right will just continue to pay that next season. If the new owners change things will the people who have paid this (or those who paid the 5 yr option up front) get a refund and then pay the same as everyone else?.
Think this is where we see the folly of the throw a six to start membership gubbins last season, make it pure and simple next time please.
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| Quote ="Michigan red"Those who are still paying the ÂŁ15 per month by DD are if I remember right will just continue to pay that next season. If the new owners change things will the people who have paid this (or those who paid the 5 yr option up front) get a refund and then pay the same as everyone else?.
Think this is where we see the folly of the throw a six to start membership gubbins last season, make it pure and simple next time please.'"
You are correct that the original direct debit paperwork said that they continue until they are cancelled, however I noticed something on facebook the other day where the club said that direct debits will stop after 12 months. Maybe the whole thing is being ditched.
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| Quote ="Iain"You are correct that the original direct debit paperwork said that they continue until they are cancelled, however I noticed something on facebook the other day where the club said that direct debits will stop after 12 months. Maybe the whole thing is being ditched.'"
If that's the case what's to stop everyone stopping now?
Just a little uneasy continually paying without any form of cast iron gaurantee of exactly what I'll be paying to watch next season. That said at the moment paying ÂŁ15 a month seems like the least I can do to try and help out.
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| Wasn't the whole membership/ticket thing a device to "manage" VAT?
Membership fees don't attract VAT while ticket prices do!
So if the whole season ticket price is set at a single cost of ÂŁ180 then only ÂŁ150 goes to the club - ÂŁ30 in VAT to the government.
Make the Membership ÂŁ100 and the ticket ÂŁ80, then ÂŁ166.67 goes to the club and ÂŁ13.33 in VAT to the government.
Either way the charge to the fan is the same.
Mind you I think that was the scheme (or something like it) that sank Bradford!!
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| Quote ="Iain"You are correct that the original direct debit paperwork said that they continue until they are cancelled, however I noticed something on facebook the other day where the club said that direct debits will stop after 12 months. Maybe the whole thing is being ditched.'"
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Initial membership period is 12 months, after which your membership is a rolling monthly contract until you notify us that you wish to cancel. You must give 14 days notice in writing. If you wish to rejoin within six months of cancellation you will be subject to a rejoining fee (calculated at 6 months x membership fee).
If you cancel your membership at any point during the Season your Match Pass will be cancelled. Match Passes and Memberships are non-refundable, except in exceptional circumstances, which will be assessed by the club on an individual basis.
All members first Direct Debit payment will be taken on 3rd January 2012 and reoccur on the same day of each following month unless you cancel. Any change in payment date/amount will be notified in writing.
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| Quote ="middleman"Quote ="Iain"You are correct that the original direct debit paperwork said that they continue until they are cancelled, however I noticed something on facebook the other day where the club said that direct debits will stop after 12 months. Maybe the whole thing is being ditched.'"
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Initial membership period is 12 months, after which your membership is a rolling monthly contract until you notify us that you wish to cancel. You must give 14 days notice in writing. If you wish to rejoin within six months of cancellation you will be subject to a rejoining fee (calculated at 6 months x membership fee).
If you cancel your membership at any point during the Season your Match Pass will be cancelled. Match Passes and Memberships are non-refundable, except in exceptional circumstances, which will be assessed by the club on an individual basis.
All members first Direct Debit payment will be taken on 3rd January 2012 and reoccur on the same day of each following month unless you cancel. Any change in payment date/amount will be notified in writing.
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Yeah, I'm aware of that. But the club did reply to someone a couple of days ago on facebook to say their direct debit would stop after 12 months. Possibly a change in how they do memberships/season tickets.
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| The membership scheme was good idea but I stopped mine as one we don't know weather we will get out and the other is state of club. As if we go in to administration we will not be guaranteed what we are paying for and go towards debt. And to be honest won't be renewing any more as this club never answer emails asking about membership. So why should we bother there not interested in fans only them self. And I won't waste my money anymore
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| Quote ="Red Willow"Thanks, I was.'"
Fair enough. I actually agree with that, but it wasn't how it came across when I first read it.
Quote ="Red Willow"The value of a season ticket is reduced further when the club runs deals for cheap tickets.'"
Haven't the club stopped taking the p*ss with the cheap tickets? Weren't they usually limited offers you could only use once last season?
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| Quote ="Jibmeister"Fair enough. I actually agree with that, but it wasn't how it came across when I first read it.
Haven't the club stopped taking the p*ss with the cheap tickets? Weren't they usually limited offers you could only use once last season?'"
I think they tried it but this board was awash with people saying they had free tickets etc.
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| Quote well Moon’s gone? Is that the only one Clarkey?
[uNo[/u, not in a position to expand though I'm afraid
@PhilClarkeSkyS '"
Clarke still implying more to leave, with Sidlow to Bradford Bulls being mentioned
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