Does chairman want investment,or want out.If it is investment surely the new investor or investors would want
a big say in all aspects of the running of the club, would the chairman want that,or does he want
investment and the present incumbents carry on running the show,if so that could be the problem.

So when you wrote:


So just being a supporter of a club knows that you mean absolutely bloody everything?

you were trying to say:
[u
because you are a Huddersfield fan, you know what contract Wild got from Salford. I'm pointing out that just supporting one particular team does not mean you know the ins and outs of player contracts[/u

If you cannot see your first attempt was completely lame you do have a problem.



Anyway, whatever what was implied....Wildy got a bumper contract.

I got two words the wrong way around whilst typing quickly. Hang me.

Now that you've got the gist of what I was saying, can you enlighten me as to how, as a Huddersfield fan, you know what contract Wild got?

If YOU got your words confused so that your sentence made no sense then it might be better to refrain from saying:

[uI'll break it down into real simple talk, then.[/u

Your condescending approach is pathetic when it is your inability to communicate, not my ability to comprehend, that was at fault.

As for your question. As a Huddersfield fan I attended the end of season dinner ( end of season but we had play off games to play). As a Huddersfield fan I had spoken to SW several times. As a Huddersfield fan I asked him about his deal with Salford. SW could not believe he was going to get so much and for 3 years. HTH

Well I'm sorry for not realising I'd made a fairly simple typo. I'm also sorry you couldn't work out what I'd actually meant. And final apologies, but it seemed I was right to label you a bellend, regardless of my own f*ck up.



Now if only you'd explained that in the first place. I'm still not convinced it means we're spending shedloads of cash and are anywhere near the cap, but you now have a bit more credibility. Thanks.

I am sorry you cannot make yourself understood. Your response to your error was graceless.

Whether you are convinced or afford me any credibility is irrelevant. Salford have substantially increased player expenditure in 20011/12 this has not been matched by on field performance or revenues. This is why smith has gone, Holdworth is being touted around and the 'replacement' for Patten will not be on a similar salary. I do not agree with Salford supporters re salaries in 2011/12. However I do agree that in 2013 / 14 the salary spend will be substantially lower than most SL clubs.

I see you made up a season we're 18,000 years away from to support your argument so I would suspect that we will be spending a lot more then.
Wrong wrong wrong, you come on here knowing only a very small part of the player expenditure at Salford, you spoke to one player who as with anyone going somewhere else it is always for more money, (the grass is Greener springs to mind), why would he tell you what he or any other player was getting?
For one player expenditure was cut this season from the season 2010/2011, we are well under the cap, thats why Ratchford went, we could not afford what he wanted, but I lay my hat down to some one who knows so much they can see so far into the future, do you have this Friday's lottery numbers, then Salford could pay the full cap.

Oh a typo! I will not be as graceless as GT re this type of error.

The 18000 years stuff is...inspid. Oh dear.



Re Wild, do try and keep up. SW is on LESS money than his last contract at the Giants. However it is far more than he was offered to stay (for a year) and he got a 3 year deal. If you want to pretend that Wild, Patten, Holdsworth, Smith, Anderson , Feka , bailey (severence forms part of the salary spend)etc etc etc were all taking well below the market rate then do so.

Your Ratchford comments show you are out of your depth. Clubs will determine what they will pay a player. If other clubs have a higher valuation / have fewer players in that position /offer better coaching / offer better chances of winning silverware / offer better chances of international honours etc then they may outbid a club. The salary cap may not be a deciding factor.

Many are aware of players taking cuts / waiting for payments. This could as easily suggest that a club extended itself too far on salaries (paying near to the cap) and is now cutting back. HTH.

Do keep up yourself, I already said that SW was on less money per season, or do you want me to explain it in words of one syllable or less, Jw stated at the start of the season that wages this year would less than last year, but YOU would know better than him because you had dinner with SW. The club went all out last year to try and big up the move and get bigger crowds in and so bring in more revenue to pay for this. Well the players were not that good and the crowds didn't come, plus this year the club has lost some revenue streams again stated by the chairman. As for Ratchford and Myler before him they were offered more money than at Salford, and yes McRae coaching was also part, but the Salary Cap is not the deciding factor but the ability to pay upto the max of the Salary Cap that determines what you pay your players. The fact is Salford are paying less this year than they did last year, but if you don't want to believe it thats upto you, but what is it like in the year 20012?

Interesting. Do it in words of less than one syllable. Thanks.

Oh dear. You are slow. When JW says wages in 2012 will be less than 2011 it does not mean Salford are not near to full cap in 2011 and 2012...just 2012 is less than 2010. HTH.

The discussion with SW has no bearing on this.

You say wild is on less money yet write this:


[uas with anyone going somewhere else it is always for more money[/u


Do try and keep up wth your own posts.



What players get paid is down the the marketplace and the relative demand and supply of certain skills.

Spot on my man.This club is a joke.No heart,no hope,no money,no support,no chance.

It's a little like your post's then keep taking the tablets.

OK.Do you mean the reality ones ?

Cyanide I hope

Why,do you want blowing apart again?

If you did actually read and understand the post which from this post of yours you clearly don't, so I will explain again but it is getting tedious, if s-o-m-e-b-o-d-y i-s g-o-i-n-g t-o a-n-o-t-h-e-r j-o-b, t-h-e-y w-i-l-l i-n m-o-s-t c-a-s-e-s t-e-l-l y-o-u i-t i-s f-o-r m-o-r-e m-o-n-e-y. So just because he tells a fan that it doesn't mean that it is true, is that clear enough for you. You forgot about agents sorting out pay and whether it is a fashionable club, i.e. a player may take a smaller salary to play for Wigan than they would playing for Shuddersfield.

A reference to Shuddersfield, how quaint.

Oh dear.

Wild did not lie to me. But call him a liar if it helps you pretend salford have not been near the top end of the cap. Likewise the implication that many of the big name players are accepting buttons to play at Salford (a fashionable club maybe?) is nonsense.

Pev to be fair, you know me and I know you, but now is probably a good time to quit in this argument because this Huddersfield fan has you on the rack! I know your biased to Salford, but to be fair in this argument for a supposedly intelligent man you aren't doing yourself any favors, no offence like!!!

Great posting Cripesginger. It wouldn't surprise me if your comments regarding spending near full cap was true especially with this move to Barton. Again it shows the board still remain ijit's and how they still feed us a load of porkies.

And the Love fest brigade Early Bath, BigPev Michigan Dread and co they'd love another 3 decades of those big pork pies.....They think Salford aren't making money.. Believe me he wouldn't be doing it if he wasn't.

Again, not necessarily supporting Wilkinson here, but what evidence do you have that he's making money from Salford? The published accounts would suggest the opposite.

Dearie me. The GAME is skint. 3 clubs maybe making a profits - the rest relying on handouts.

If Expenditure is greater than Income there is a LOSS and somebody has to make up the difference to survive.

Look at the Audited Accounts man to see what has happened then maybe you might understand.

The published accounts are flawed ffs. He's that bent he could hide behind a corkscrew. Yeah the publicised accounts may look like he's coughed up a few quid each. We all know accountants earn their corn. Nudge nudge wink wink

So let me get this straight :-

a) You actually believe that Salford RLFC makes a profit each and every year and these profits are skimmed off into the Chairman & Directors pockets?

b) You actually believe that an Independent firm of Accountants have been persuaded to sign the Accounts each year showing that they present a `True & Fair View` of the Financial position of the Club EVEN though that is not the case? Remember the Qualified Auditors stand 100% behind their Certificate and can be sued if they mislead.

If your answers are Yes to a) & b) above then I would recommend you make an Appointment with the nearest Priory Hospital to have a friendly chat.

What are the flaws in the accounts, where is this money coming from and how is it being taken out?