Anyone know whats happened to Boyle and Sidlow. Are they injured or just not being selected??
Mcpherson for me just isnt big enough to be a prop forward..
I hope it isnt just a case of----------------" well were paying him/them big bucks , so theyre guaranteed a starting place"

Feka wants dropping for giving that last penalty !!!!!

Thats exactly what was needed last night..We have a lightweight pack and just couldnt make the yards up the middle to bring us away from our own line, then we end up kicking from our own 30 metre line .

I have been saying this all season. Granted, his passing from the floor has improved since he arrived but there are still technical deficiencies concerning his distribution which impact directly on our attack.

The main problem I think we have is the paper thin defence we have out wide.We let an early soft try in early again yesterday, result is heads went down leading to more loss of confidence in defence out wide.We really ,really need a good defensive coach to work with our lads, especially the three quarters. Oh for the days whe Jimmy Lowes was in charge of defence!!!

Phill Clarke summed us up pretty early on in the game. He noted that we were ambling back in defence,with slow ,slow play the balls and no enthusiasm.Wakey could easy have been 40 up by half time.

Lost this game in first half especially first 10 minutes
We need to recruit a defensive coach
are Wild, McpHearson, Goodwin playing while not fully fit ?
How many penalties did Neroand Jewitt give away ?
Howarth missing to many tackles and to slow passing from PTB
Opposition clubs are marking Holdsworth, Smith, Pattan out of game, no other phase of attack
bring Sneyd in to vary attack
No use Pattan scoring /making tries if he is giving more away, he cannot tackle and his line defence is awful
Everyone was saying before the season started we need two big props
No use blaming simms if he has'nt the money available to sign anyone

I am not trying to make light of a poor performance but it has to be recognised that SCR just do NOT do Saturdays.Since the non-performance in January,at the new stadium,we have not won any of the 4 games on a Saturday.The fact that Sky have been there for 2 of those games hasn't helped.
If we get to Wembley,although it's on a Saturday,the BBC will be there.Anyway,the journey is sometimes more interesting than the destination.Leeds did lose their last Sunday game,and it was to a team who had lost their previous 4 games,and who play in red.
I do have a positive from yesterday.Marc Sneyd was wearing a lovely shade of blue boot which was even more fetching than the orange boots displayed at Whitehaven.
If he's in the squad for Sunday I reckon he will have an even more stand-out colour.What is wrong with red ?

Keep the faith.Don't forget to turn out on Sunday.Should they get to Wembley you'll never forgive yourselves if you miss this game.

I watched on SKY and there appeared to be very little motivation if any until the dying minutes.
I'm not sure but I'd be willing to bet we're in the minority (if not the only ones) not to have a dedicated defensive coach. Would suspect in SL that most teams have a head coach, an attacking coach and also a defensive one. We could do worse than speaking to Halifax to see if Karl Harrison would be available for one day per week to work on this as we always seemed to have a very structured and capable defense when he was in charge. I think at the very least we need to get someone from Hope Hospital in to explain anatomoy to the players and point out a persons legs as from what I saw yesterday they appear too all have fragile backs that can't be bent low enough to get low on an opposition player.

Think the club has to face facts that though Wagga is without doubt a quality hooker he isn't the number one pick as Owen offers much more direction from the PTB, is much quicker off the mark to make cheap yards and appears to be on a level with Wagga defensively.

Think that from what I have seen over the past few games Feka appears to have re discovered his love for Greggs and needs to knuckle down again and get back to his early season fitness before the warmer weather hopefully kicks in and he is found wanting even more (also the penalty on the last tackle yesterday was school boy stuff). With Patten retiring would hope that recruitment of a big quality prop is on the cards and not another FB, as someone else has said the kick in the junior team looks more than capable and I'd also like to see what Snyed is like in something like a Tomkins switch.

I do fear that should we get a tonking next Sunday that the season is gone and that it won't be long before people start to get on Vauxhalls back and maybe even see Long do one as he is hardly known for his rational thinking over the years.

Owen has to come in for Howarth he has been playing poor recently and his defence is shocking to say the least

Anyone know the 20s score yesterday??

I sometimes feel that some of the Sky commentators have it in for Salford, yesterday they all had it in for them and quite rightly it was embarrassing. But for me the comment that summed Salford up came from Jon Wells in his half time summary when he said.....

[iIf you have nothing positive to say at all it's best to say nothing, so .... moving on to Wakefield.

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Beaten 32-30.

I know we were bad, but they were revelling in it last night and seemed to take a sort of sneering delight in how bad we were. Phil Clarke was the only one who seemed to point out that we were capable of performing better than the horror show that was served up.

I though Carney was trying his hardest to put salford in a good light. However what else do people expect the sky team to say when we turn up and perform like that!?

I was embarrassed to be a salford fan last night.

We were bad and you can't blame Sky saying what they did but it always seems to me that they enjoy talking bad about Salford. We were poor, fine. St Helens went through a bad patch and Widnes are walked over week in week out but Sky don't say those kind of things about them. They seem to enjoy us failing and that's what annoys me more than anything.

One of the comments when Nero scored his try was something like "It could easily have been 6 points to Wakefield..." What is that supposed to mean!?!?! We were in possession and attacking, how the hell could it have been 6 points to Wakefield! It's stupid comments like that that make no sense which just shows they are willing Salford to fail most of the time.

I hated the commentary on Sky almost as much as I hated watching our performance

Why is it there's never a grey area in sight on here? (or the Facebook group for that matter).

Did it escape everyone that Howarth still couldn't pass, our pack was still to lightweight and Patten, for all his attacking gifts, can look suspect on the back foot?

Did nobody realise that the whole 'Barton Globetrotters' thing was borne partly out of necessity as we simply don't have a Super League-standard pack (ie, we can't go through most teams so we have to go at around them).

I'll accept that we looked as though we weren't trying for the first 40 minutes. But the big difference in the second half was that the 'hail Mary' balls that were sticking when we were winning and had a bit more confidence were ending up on the floor; the lack of a proper pack also means that when the expansive game doesn't work we don't have a 'route one' option.

The reality is, we've punched above our weight a few times this season (mainly due to Long's input and the bit of class we have out wide IMO) but to compete consistently you need a dominant pack, and dominant packs cost money.

Agree..I hate listening to Tweedle Dumb and Tweedle Dumber


The other week we were watching a game and for some reason the commentary didnt work,all you could hear was the crowd noise for the full 80 minutes.It was miles better!!!!

The first half performance has got to be one of our worst in recent history. 22-6 down with Wakey bombing another 3 certain tries. We only had one play the ball within 40m of their tryline in the entire first half.

after leading for most of the match and then conceding 3 poor tries in the last 20.

I'm gobsmacked, I thought Patten was your best player and dragged you back into the game - well we all see it differently I suppose.

Patten is class. Sadly he seems to be the scapegoat for many, probably because he is our most high profile player.

No shame there, our under 20's are very good and they won't play worse than that all season - could possibly win the title.

Karlos..........get real Man!

If all Patten had to do was 'tick' someone to stop them he still couldn't prevent a try. Why..........because he's not even in the vacinity when the opposition breaks or crosses our line.
He has ALWAYS flattered to deceive. No wonder he's retiring, he damn well knows his game is up.

He's not a scapegoat, he a genuine reason that we leak points like a seive.

Don't believe me.............look at some recordings or simply watch the next game..........His tackling is not poor IT'S NONE EXISTANT.

I thought patten would be our very own super star but he's failed miserably, his game shows that he's used to playing in top class sides who rarely concede, don't get me wrong his attack is brilliant at times but tbh a fullbacks job is the read the play when in defence and if a break was to occur he'd have it covered before anything else could escalate. But he's always out of position and he's not eger enough to return a kick n chase he let's the ball bounce at times when it should be covered immediately I believe all the years at Canterbury he was used to being helped out (carried) by other players, an with them having world class players a cross the board probably didn't get into situations like he does playing for Salford.