Parking at NFL games is around $20 /£14 so you get what you pay for and to be fair getting away from the car parks is no easier than any other mass attended event. Saying that some stadia get certain roads blocked/restricted at the end of games so access onto the main roads is quicker/safer.
As pointed out access & egress from the car par is shocking and the costs involved to fix it could well be out of reach. Given some fans with families don't want to walk their kids 10/15/20 minutes to a game this may well be putting some off from coming at all no matter what time or day of the week it is.

Think more than anything what is needed are lights on the roundabout as currently you can be sat for an age waiting to get onto it from the Eccles side of the A57 due to the vehicles coming off the motorway.

Where did you get that map from about Port Salford?

Fridays are definately the problem with the low crowds. I work in Wigan until 5, if I didn't have an understanding boss who lets me work through my dinner hours 2days a week so i can finish an hour early on fridays I'd never be able to make the match. I have to pick my son up from nursery, drive home get my little boys tea ready bath him, get ready myself, then drive and pick up other family members who are going to the game, then drive down to the stadium allowing for traffic get there and get parked up and go into the stadium before kick off is a mad rush! If I didn't love Salford as much as I do I wouldn't waste my time going, like a lot of those fans who sit on the fence. The biggest attendence at the willows in the super league era was 10000 all home fans, what day was that game played on? It definately wasn't a friday night! The club have messed up big time opting for Fridays over Sunday, it just near enough impossible for family's to go and watch, another thing how many little children do we see at the coss? Not many at all as their all tucked up in bed before kick off! Rant over.

I think the location of the new ground lends itself more to Sundays than Fridays. Places such as Swinton, Clifton, Worsley, Walkden, LH are pretty much cut off from the new stadium public transport wise on a Friday night.

Quote ="whitters"Where did you get that map from about Port Salford?'" Off this thread: www.skyscrapercity.com/showthrea ... 44&page=24 I think it's from either a pdf or powerpoint presentation available elsewhere online.

Quote ="whitters"Where did you get that map from about Port Salford?'" Off this thread: www.skyscrapercity.com/showthrea ... 44&page=24 I think it's from either a pdf or powerpoint presentation available elsewhere online.

wow the video further down that page is amazing!

You should be on the stage you are hilarious!

Prior to Friday we had one good win against the newly promoted team that are struggling to find their feet in Superleague. It was the last match at the Willows against Catalan and the debacle against Leigh that will have switched certain people off.

It will take a few more good results like Friday to get those casuals interested enough to come and pay their money.

Feel free to criticise but the reality is not enough people in Salford want to pay money to watch rugby league. In the 1970's when we had a star studded team and won two championships we only averaged gates of about 5,000.

Personally I'm surprised Salford get anybody there at all considering all the damage certain 'so-called' fans do by continually 'getting off' by publicly knocking everything the club do or don't do.

Keep pressing that self destruct button whingers and you may then find that you have something much worse to whine about.

Red shed you've

menmedia.co.uk/manchesterevening ... rting-cast M.E.N's running a story on our poor crowds they say the crowd was 4,629 whereas most other sport websites have reported it at 5,186, either way it's pretty shoddy.

menmedia.co.uk/manchesterevening ... rting-cast M.E.N's running a story on our poor crowds they say the crowd was 4,629 whereas most other sport websites have reported it at 5,186, either way it's pretty shoddy.

£16k for stewarding is ridiculous for a stadium our size. Who's responsible for the crazy rules and regs that the club have to adhere to, the council?

Another poor article from the Evening News. The crowds likely to be lower next week so will be there be a similar article in seven days time.

It may be time for those supporters who do attend to make a gesture to generate some positive publicity.
Having been amazed at the persistent and possibly petulant postings on this forum and facebook,(which has 6,000 followers ?) the only thing which hasn't drawn criticism is the shade of green of the grass on the verdant new pitch and the selection and use of the players on the interchange - thankfully!

If we emulated the example of primary school children - who remain silent for so many minutes and donate money to charities which have television exposure - why not have 24 hours where no one finds fault with the club,on or off the field,and each supporter donates the equivalent of a match fee to the club - £24 if it can be afforded,for example people not going to France or Hull where the admission is even more.

The club can then use the money for whatever purpose it chooses - free entry to those who do not regularly attend or to help pay off the tax bill,anything they want.

£24 quid from a few hundred people will help and be even better from a thousand or two - and the non-criticism on here and facebook for 24 hours will be brilliant.(Those with memberships have received far more than £24 worth of goodies and savings,that's for sure.)

All the club needs to do is place a post box,or two,inside the main reception,club shop and encourage the start of the collection on Friday night.They do take cheques don't they,and cash ?

We need some positive reporting in the MEN so the sooner someone decides on positive action the better.
It may divert attention from whatever the attendance may be...

That's all artificial though. Essentially the club should concentrate on grabbing control of their public image - their PR. They are already getting encouraging results on the pitch despite a lightweight pack. And with a proper fans facility at the new ground (we're looking at you SMC) it makes it easier for us to encourage mates to come down. Word of mouth then comes naturally.

Tickets for the Broncos Game , aren't even appearing on the Club site , although Ticketline do list the Broncos & Leeds fixtures when you follow the link from the already played Hull game.
I notice that only the West & the South Stands will be open for the London Game .

how can people blame us for apathy if the club cannot even be left alone to promote their next game which is 5 days away on their own site !!

When you look at the minimal amount of support we take to away games. Many of which don't go due to extra costs etc... I find it difficult to believe people would be willing to give the club extra cash for nothing. I know I certainly wouldn't. As my finances are much needed elsewhere.

As for collection buckets.......... you'd be lucky if there was any cash in them at the end of the game. Good causes struggle to get spare change off the terraces as it is. Never mind the " why should we give the club more money brigade"

Forever Reds have done all sorts to raise cash for the club. Just look at the apathetic attitude most people have towards that.

swinton have more members than we have in FR, we are raising money and punching way above our size to help the club, but apathy rules and too many people couldn't give a t055, but are happy to moan if the club are not paying for the best players. it is upto us to sort it out and try and get your mates to come to next match and why not go to the FR site and find out about joining.

Winds me up this forever reds malarky, I've said it before, those who run it should promote it more, hand flyers out at games, have a stall set up at home games to encourage people to join. The spot the gym people have would be idea if they had a stand there. Forever reds is a group of people on this website in a certain clique, I'm not a member but would be willing to join, if people at home games handed out flyers explaing what they do, you'd see an higher intake of members. Rant over.

FR is not a group of people in a "certain" cliche, we are a small group of fans who have one thing in common the love of Salford, the stuff you suggest has been done, we have stood at the willows handing out flyers put stuff in the prohgramme and got mentions in the Salford Advertiser, we advertise our meetings and which players will be there and we don't charge non-members (you would think that they would join at the meeting). we are planning some stuff this year, but it will be the same old same old who will be there, we have the AGM coming up shortly which would be a great time to meet new members.
Watch this space.

If your not a FR member and never been to a meeting how do you know that they are a certain clique?

I am a FR member and I have different views on some things than Pev and other people and we are certainly no clique.

If you haven't seen or heard or read anything about FR at the matches, especially at the Willows or in the RL press or even on Radio Manchester then you must go to matches and live with a blindfold and ear muffs on.

FR are a very dedicated group of people whose sole aim is to help the Salford City Reds in any way that it can,ask Alan Hunte if FR is a clique or not ask the Physio their opinion or better still just watch for the next meeting and come down and see what goes on.

And you never know you may even volunteer to help out one day.

It is nothing to do with people on here running the club down,If every post on this site was saying the opposite
It would still be the same,we new we were going to the new ground two years.most people on here thought we were
going to move,with a great big fanfare,In so much that we let a coach who was probably going at the end of the season
and Mr Simms to bring in eight new players,we now know last season was a disaster,and not a spring board to a new
start at a new stadium.I was at a meeting,Mr Simms telling people we wanted more away fans to come,so what do we
do, we play on Friday night,I have been to Hull lots of time,and would sooner go on Sunday.The people running the club
always thought build a new stadium,and people would come running,they now know the reality,we have got to have a
team,and now people want a winning team,the time to judge is at the end of the season,Warrington did not get fans
over night,only when they started fetching over top Australians and started winning matches,Bradford have not got
the team they had.So they have not got the same fans they once had.

I am a FR member but only pay my money when asked but never attend due to work commitments, when is the next meeting of FR to take place as I would like to try & attend?

Wooooah hold ya horses baby cakes!

1. I rarely comment on here, and it's obvious their is a clique, maybe if you don't see it, it's because your one of them....

2. When was the last time at the Willows there was forever reds people giving leaflets out? As I normally came in through the turnstyle from the club shop or the far corner near the ginnel. Only people who approached me were programme sellers and golden gamble sellers. Can't remember anyone on Rugbyleague phone in mentioning the forever reds, I didn't listen last Thursday so I could be wrong. Also Why dosen't anyone post stuff on Salford facebook page as people seem to talk on there also ask salfordonline to post and put of there website? So am afraid georgous I am keeping my eyes open and ear's peeled. Also since I been to new stadium no F/R presence, although on Friday I was made aware to check my testicals



Am not saying the people involved are no dedicated, when I say this I don't mean it disrespectfully, if your going to do something do it properly and not half hearted. I'm willing to donate so spare pennies for a good cause but as I'm not "dedicated" I wouldn't know what the money goes to oppose to lining peoples trips to Catalan



So if anyone wants 10 sheets of me I'll be at the London game and show me where to sign up!

That's one hell of an insinuation is that.

The number of people now involved is very low (I've only just re-joined myself and not helped out for a while...), resources are limited and every attempt in the past at getting new people involved has been met with apathy and, in some case, contempt. This is despite the club making it known quite publicly what cash raised in previous years has been spent on. If you feel you could add more to the Trust and help raise the profile further then you could always make a positive move to get involved.

next meeting will be announced shortly, surely a bit of libel, (I wouldn't know what the money goes to oppose to lining peoples trips to Catalan) as it states ask Alan Hunte where the money goes, this season we are also running sponsor a try again, last season if you sponsored at try home and away a £100 quid would have been raised imagine if 1000 fans had just done that simple thing we could have raised £100,000, now that sort of money can change things at the club., currently for each £1 a try the total stands at £15 owed by each fan after only 4 games.