If you click the link I can help feeling how old Wilkinson looks! His style and ideas are dated! Maybe it's best if he steps down as chairman and employ someone fresher and better ideas and has no emotional ties to the staff! It would be even better if he sold up but really unless SCR is in your heart I personally think it's a very unattractive role. www.reds.co.uk/rugby-news/salfor ... -cup-venue

If you click the link I can help feeling how old Wilkinson looks! His style and ideas are dated! Maybe it's best if he steps down as chairman and employ someone fresher and better ideas and has no emotional ties to the staff! It would be even better if he sold up but really unless SCR is in your heart I personally think it's a very unattractive role. www.reds.co.uk/rugby-news/salfor ... -cup-venue

Quote ="programmethrower"If you click the link I can help feeling how old Wilkinson looks! His style and ideas are dated! Maybe it's best if he steps down as chairman and employ someone fresher and better ideas and has no emotional ties to the staff! It would be even better if he sold up but really unless SCR is in your heart I personally think it's a very unattractive role. www.reds.co.uk/rugby-news/salfor ... -cup-venue'" Swinton once had a young, dynamic looking chairman with fresh ideas, long hair and a diamond stud in his ear. His fresh ideas led to them selling Station Road and ending up playing here there and everywhere. Wilkie has never looked his age, so I wouldn't worry too much about that. The problem you have is this "someone fresher". Who is it? He's said numerous times in the past that he would sell up to an appropriate buyer, but no-one has come forward.

Quote ="programmethrower"If you click the link I can help feeling how old Wilkinson looks! His style and ideas are dated! Maybe it's best if he steps down as chairman and employ someone fresher and better ideas and has no emotional ties to the staff! It would be even better if he sold up but really unless SCR is in your heart I personally think it's a very unattractive role. www.reds.co.uk/rugby-news/salfor ... -cup-venue'" Swinton once had a young, dynamic looking chairman with fresh ideas, long hair and a diamond stud in his ear. His fresh ideas led to them selling Station Road and ending up playing here there and everywhere. Wilkie has never looked his age, so I wouldn't worry too much about that. The problem you have is this "someone fresher". Who is it? He's said numerous times in the past that he would sell up to an appropriate buyer, but no-one has come forward.

"if he steps down as chairman and employ someone fresher and better ideas"

so he gives up his role and then appoints (as chairman but not chairman !!!) a chairman ????????????

Quote ="programmethrower"If you click the link I can help feeling how old Wilkinson looks! His style and ideas are dated! Maybe it's best if he steps down as chairman and employ someone fresher and better ideas and has no emotional ties to the staff! It would be even better if he sold up but really unless SCR is in your heart I personally think it's a very unattractive role. www.reds.co.uk/rugby-news/salfor ... -cup-venue'" I KNEW IT WAS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE!! We get to host the Word Cup And everyone else get's to host the World Cup..... B**TARDS....

Quote ="programmethrower"If you click the link I can help feeling how old Wilkinson looks! His style and ideas are dated! Maybe it's best if he steps down as chairman and employ someone fresher and better ideas and has no emotional ties to the staff! It would be even better if he sold up but really unless SCR is in your heart I personally think it's a very unattractive role. www.reds.co.uk/rugby-news/salfor ... -cup-venue'" I KNEW IT WAS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE!! We get to host the Word Cup And everyone else get's to host the World Cup..... B**TARDS....

In the old "O" levels English Language, this item would have failed, but in the modern day GCSE English Lanaguage A* for creativity, just overlook the spelling, punctuation and Grammar.

People clearly seem to have missed my point! What I meant was for Wilkinson to step down and effectively become a sleeping partner! Let's be honest the only good thing people throw in people’s faces about Wilkinson is that "the club wouldn't be here if it wasn't for him!!!" Bla Bla Bla.... Well if people take their blinkers of they would realised people are actually getting fed up of Wilkinson’s leadership and has a horrid history people he employees! So if he was to step down (whilst retaining the club and so be it putting money in when required like he has done for X amount of years) By bringing in an outside influence who has no ties with the club as chairman, they would spot how ridiculous the club has been ran for all these years (which took Parish all of a week to find out?) If this new chairman was brought in he could get rid of the dead wood in the departments most need i.e. marketing, media. The club may actually start to progress rather than taking backwards steps because whether you like it or not the club has been in steady decline for a number of years and you can't keep blaming to the coaches ala Shaun McRea. The buck must stop from the top and for me YES Wilkinson has proved his worth with years of dedication and funding but it you look at his management, for me to put it polite it's been mediocre.

But Programmethrower, can't you see the complete flaw in your own argument?

Who would do the appointing of a new chairman? The only ones who could, would be JW & the existing board - the very ones that you say have been mediocre all these years - how would they get it right this time - especially, if as you suggest, the new chairman's first job will be to clean the Augean Stables!!

Over the past few years on various interviews that I've heard & read, JW has made it perfectly clear that if a suitable buyer came forward he would consider a transfer of ownership - IMHO that's the only way forward, but it's never looked likely from anything I've seen

We wouldnt be here if not for JW and were not progressing with JW here...we cant win (according to some)
Who in there right mind would want to take over a bussiness venture that's over 4 million pound in debt and losing money? No one except a dedicated fan of Salford the City and rugby league...ala JW. Your wasting your time protesting otherwise. Ok perhap's they arent the sharpest board and were not gonna move forward as a brand until someone "sharp" step's up but until that person does we cant moan. We have to be content with not going into administration and being proud of playing in SL.. END OF

Good posting programmethrower

People really are missing the point regarding JWs management. Lyrad Red, Early Bath, you keep re-iterating Salford would'nt exist without JW. Well that proves bad management to be in that position of nearly going out of existance. Also 14 coaches in 29 years, that proves bad judgement.Take you rose tinted specs of guys and wake up.

BigPev
this would get an A* in Literature in that it wonderfully sums up some posters messages in the target language.

"Take you rose tinred specs of guys"

I expect every Salford fan for the last 30+ years to wear these as, otherwise, they'd have given up and followed such as Wigan or Leeds.
However it does explain how you, and PT, fail to realise the hard facts of business.
Please name a person who has voluntarily put him/herself forward who will save us: do not volunteer "someone" because he's too busy (its always someone who should ...), or a person who has a connection but no interest (Done), or the tooth fairy.

I think you're the one that's missing the point here. I don't think anyone's happy with the way things are at the moment, but, unless you know any different, there's no-one else out there willing to do the job. In that respect, the club wouldn't exist without him. If he walked away tomorrow, who would step in and replace him? Any ideas?

As for 14 coaches in 29 years, how does that compare with other clubs? Wigan have had 18 in that time. Have their fans got a mard head on about it?

Your so right there, what a complete and utter tool he turned out to be.!!!!

This type of quote keeps rearing its ugly head on various threads and its really starting to annoy me.

It was in the early 90's that John Wilkinson telephoned GMR in response to disgruntled supporters telephoning the radio show and the presenter at the time questioning the running of the club. It was a Sunday afternoon phone-in to the then rugby league hour and Salford supporters were returning home down the East Lancs after another humiliation against one of our local rivals, The presenter of the show asked 'live' for a response from John Wilkinson to which he duly responded by telephoning in.

First and foremost John Wilkinson 'DID NOT STATE' he would sell the club 'NOR DID HE STATE THE CLUB WAS FOR SALE'! He stated that 'IF' someone approached him who would in 'HIS' opinion be in a better position to run the club for the benefit of the club then he would 'CONSIDER' stepping down as Chairman.

As a side issue to this, it was obviously an early indication of how supporters felt even way back then of the ineptness of the Salford Board for this to be discussed 'live' on radio. At that time I beleive the club was not in as much of a financial mess as it appears to be in today and was still run on a semi-proffessional basis. The early alarm bells were well and truely ringing, which brings us back to the present where the situation has snowballed in to near catastrophic proportions, i.e. £4m in debt and no major assets e.g. owning ones own ground.

I'm still not aware that John Wilkinson has ever said the club is for sale nor has he ever put it on the market or said he is in search for a new buyer?

If the club was to enter the verge of bankruptcy, the clubs creditors could ask the High Court to allow the sale of the club which would possibly overrule (IMO) the wishes of John Wilkinson as he seems again IMO not to want to relenquish his position.

Its OK for supporters on here to drag up statements from the past and interpret them otherwise but until I hear that John Wilkinson 'HAS' put the club on the market 'FOR SALE' then I will choose see it otherwise.

[uAnd were do I praise JW for having good judgement and good management skills ? I Dont. [/u

I am simply stating [ufact's[/u. and the obvious truth which is, had JW decided to step down and stop putting money into the club we would now be in a worse position than we currently are. I wear no rose tinted glasses. I am simply pointing out the fact's which for some reason, you keep choosing to ignore. Here they are again:

Salford wouldnt be here if it wasnt JW. I think having a club to support is a good thing at the very least.

If Someone else who wanted to lose money in a failing business, JW would step down tommorrow.

Besides is it not testament to JW for keeping a failing bussiness afloat in this bussiness busting economical period? As previously mentioned Rugby club's arent money spinner's, there passion and pride for people who care. Im not for one minute suggesting the club has been "managed" or "judged" properly over the last 20-30 year's, I'm simply pointing out were lucky we havent got a club which has fallen into administration.

So open your eye's and read my post's properly instead of reading what you want, and if your still not happy, I'm sure Warrington will welcome you with open arm's.

So nearly 20 year's ago JW announced on radio he would "consider" an applicant to take over the club should one approach him? Is that not enough evidence to suggest that should someone approach him he would consider them.....Oh hang on... it is. Were Man City up for sale when they were approached with a buy out. I think not yet, they too were'nt being managed very well at the time. It goes without saying if someone approached JW and put a a good enough deal on the table :

a) It would filter down thru the fan's
b) be possibly made public to put pressure on the board to sell out.

Regardless JW has kept this club afloat along witht the board and there money.

Are these the rants of an ex-employee who didn't make the grade but throught they were good enough?

Is this the insults of somebody who as to scrape the barrel to put down someone when they cannot think of a worthwhile thing to write,sad really sad.

My opinions have no bearing on whether i made the grade or not.

Maybe you'll be happier when that nice Mr Kennedy buys you out ?

It's disgusting, but there's a handful on here who are now gleefully rubbing their hands at the idea of the club going under. And after all my hard work slating the quality of Warrington's fans last season!..
This forum gets more embarrassing by the day.

Sick of these Keyboard Warriors who think they are big and hard by slagging off people on a forum. The thing that makes it worse for me is that they have absolutely no idea what that are talking about, embarrassing!

Your point being what exactly?



So you agree Salford are not being well managed but then you go on to state -



Without commenting on how that money has been so mismanaged that the club finds itself in the predicament its in today, why?



On a) Would it really? Any approach of sale would most likely be a controlled non-disclosure until all due diligence had been sought. Does it go without saying John Wilkinson has not been approached?

On b) Possibly? Its also possible Apple and Samsung will kiss and make up!