*I do none of the above, btw. I'm Sweden, all neautral like.

I don’t think some people’s reaction is anything personal against him. I interpret it as an ironic, retaliatory, response to those that continually knock the club and are perceived as members of the Matt Parish B*m Licking Society.

Isn't it ironic how those that continually criticise others for defending the club are quick to defend their beliefs when some sh*t is flying in a different direction?

Good luck to him I wish him well.

How can someone hold a position like Simms does without being given the sack after 10 years of mis-management and constant failings on the field? If we do indeed need to keep his role within the club why has no-one else being appointed to take his job or do the club think our recruitment/contract dealings etc have been excellently done over the time he has been in the club (Phil Bailey saga being still fresh in the memory to name but one instance of Simms gold)? What is Simms actually measured on when he is appraised within his job? Parishgate is irrelevant when questioning Simms role at the club in general though I am guessing he had a say in the appointment so maybe it is relevant

For what its worth I thought Parish was a poor appointment when I personally thought a tried and tested SL coach would have been the way forward (a Kear or a Morgan - Noble apparently didn't want it but he would have been my No.1 choice - not great names but we aren't a great club currently)

The club had the chance to have a clearout and begin life in the new ground with a clean slate and fresh ambition - that time has passed and we as a club are in a mess and it really shouldn't be like this - we should be looking forward immensely to the new ground and the future but alot of people judging by this forum and other Reds I've spoke to do not feel that way at all

Well yes, because you said that the most desirable outcome is for those "systems" to pull together. This is only the most desirable when we have the best "systems" (within our constraints) available to us, which currently we don't.



There is endless evidence of the failings of the way we are currently run both on and off the field. If you can't see that then you are a simpleton, if you can stop see it then stop being an awkward er.



No, the duty of fans is to do the best they can to ensure that whatever club they support is run as well as it can be in an effort to ensure success where possible, but most importantly the continued existence of the club for future generations. By not challenging the current situation you're failing in your duty.

I agree we all need to do more to support the Club, but the most effective thing we could do right now is to force a change in CEO and DoF as both the current incumbents are failing spectacularly in their roles.

Gruffy has Steve Simms or the Chairman or both of them run over your foot in the past?

I thought that Matt Parish was a good appointment although his first meeting with the fans(and prats) did come as a surprise with some of his off the cuff comments aimed at people that most people in the audience recognized.

I was disappointed when he resigned not only because he was leaving but at the reaction of some people who immediately apportioned blame to their favourite targets without full knowledge of what actually happened, and why it happened.

Why has Steve Simms "got to have something"on the Chairman? could it be that the Chairman is happy with the job that he is doing?

I wasn't surprised that he got a job back home, it was on the cards for a while and with hindsight the appointment should never have been made, but hey it's only the fault of you know who.

Some people thought that Matt Parish was a good choice, I did and his initial thoughts on where the problems lay were in tune with fans & prats alike, whilst some other people weren't too happy with him its all about opinions and some of us with different opinions than you may be classed as prats in your eyes but we still have our own views .

I hope that Matt does well in Australia,hopefully he has learn't from his time here and he should put his experience to good use back home.

I thought that a prat was a person who talked or wrote in a childish manner one who babbled on and was full of empty chatter, now where have I seen this type of person's comments?

Agree with all this.

I AAAAAGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Good Luck Matt Parish.you was only with us for a short time,but you certainly shook the trees in that time.
And look what fell out,since your departure we find certain players,on twitter.Telling us they are glad you have gone,
but we all no who they are the ones your were trying to flirt.We know Vievers is now in charge<Good Luck to him>. And your good friend Steve telling any one who will listen,that we have moved on and we are a close knit club,but I don't think any ones listens to him except certain board members and a few supporters.Any way good luck at Manley, and in any future coaching roles, as I have said your were only with us for a short time.But It the end It boils down to the
fact, that you came half way round the world to tell us,what we already new.

Not me. I could've made it clearer, but I was simply paraphrasing the outgoing coach. I don't know the first thing about the club's systems or the success therein, but I don't think his wish to pull everyone together was succesful due to his percieved reluctance to compromise (rightly or wrongly).


I get tired of repeating this, but it entirely depends on how you measure success and failure.
If I were a Wigan fan I'd be appauled at the decline of the once great club.
If I were a Swinton fan (indeed, any non-SL fan) I'd be over the moon to be in our position.
We all want to see the club flourish and improve in every aspect and I remain to be conviced that anyone at the club, players and admin alike, doesn't want the same.


How exactly is anyone here challenging anything? Do you seriously regard this message board as a platform for anything credible? Did you see Wardleyred's poll??




...Or succeeding in gaining our current and previous franchise.

Would we be better off without them? Maybe. Maybe not. I really don't know and despite the conviction in your words, I don't think you know any more than I do.

Try the Manly forum.

I don`t care one iota about Simms and Tarry,what i do care about is the club i`ve supported for fifty years or so,i care that my sons,grandchildren have a Salford to support in the years to come.Please could somebody tell me what exactly these two people bring to the table?In my humble opinion this club is in turmoil,not because of the coach,players or supporters,its the leadership above,the longer the silence the more i get concerned that another bombshell is just around the corner.Yes i`ll` be there next year but i`m not getting the buzz i normally get for the start of the season,its the thought that i`m helping to pay these peoples wages thats winding me up.Sorry about this Rant over.

It must be a different one OQR as the one I remember was assistant at the second best side on earth the NSW Blues, and has just got a job at the current greatest club side on earth.

I can't think for a second why he would jump ship from the machine that is Salford.

Tut Tut Tut...Just reading the MP article in a previous post regarding his Manly appointment, to which it explains that the manly players are looking forward and can't wait to be working with Parish, and yet the other side of the spectrum we have Salford players openly disrespecting MP on twitter regarding his training sessions. IMO respect is earned and the salford players obviously didnt respect the guy because he was outspoken and flogged them to death. So why is it, we have the best rugby league club team on the planet, respecting MP, and one of the worst in superleague openly don't. MP was always battling an up hill task after his comments towards the end of last season and everyone at the club turned on him, except the fans hence the fallouts with SS and the snubbing from JW, So with Matt not getting the backing and respect he deserved, who can blame him for walking away and taking up the role with Manly, what ever way you look at it Matt could'nt win. If he stayed he would have to put up with the disrespect of the players, and a faithless attitude from the board, and now he's gone, he's portrayed as the scapegoat to the blinkered lot.


It also sends a strong message out to us and the rugby league world that a second in command nrl post is more appealing than the salford head coach job at the moment. Although i wish PV all the best, i don't think he's the guy to take us to a top eight finish, we'll be let down as usual....

Well i am a Swinton fan and i'll tell you now in now way would i wish to be in Salfords position, if by that you are referring to being a Super League franchise, after all that is all that is the differamce between both clubs now sadly.
At least each season we are able to play in a competition where if you do well you are rewarded and if you fail you still need to fight at the end of each season to keep your position.
in Salfords case the latter doesn't apply, what does is satisfying a criteria which ticks boxes and subsequently for a few seasons now once you have lost a few games early on your seasons are all but over.This is by no way means a dig at Salford but at the way RL has sold it's soul to sky money.
I'm more than happy to be the new boys in the Championship.!!!

Dantes Inferno

I remember Salford players saying how much they were looking forward to playing under Matt when he was on his way and how they were enjoying it while he was still here. Not sure what that proves

I also remember rumours about how *some* Salford players didn't respect Shaun Mcrae's coaching abilities. Don't remember those comments from South Sydney when they were getting the wooden spoon every year under Mcrae. Not sure what that proves either

So who got relegated from the division you've just been promoted from and have been playing in each season for the last few years?

www.seaeagles.com.au/default.asp ... hing-staff I see Jamie Lyon is really happy to be working with Parish. But then again compared to the calibre of player at Salford who didn't like Parish he really is a poor judge, you know all those test and origin appearance and the Grand Final wins in both codes. Actually ignore everything I say, Jamie Lyon knows nothing about good coaching or coaches, he's never seen Simms at work.

www.seaeagles.com.au/default.asp ... hing-staff I see Jamie Lyon is really happy to be working with Parish. But then again compared to the calibre of player at Salford who didn't like Parish he really is a poor judge, you know all those test and origin appearance and the Grand Final wins in both codes. Actually ignore everything I say, Jamie Lyon knows nothing about good coaching or coaches, he's never seen Simms at work.

Does actually make you think more and more that we've lost a real shot at having a quality coach, Veivers may yet be that and I hope he is but doubt he has the potential to move the squad forward like Parish would have done.

Taken from Gruffy's link above

"We’re looking forward to having Matt on board,” Lyon said.

“He comes with a big wrap, and a lot of people have a high opinion of him, so I’m looking forward to working with Matt.”

So Lyon has never worked with Parish but has heard he is a good coach. What does that prove? what do you expect Lyon to say "oh yeah I heard he's rubbish"? I'm sure if you dug out quotes from Salford players prior to his arrival they would have said similar things.

None of this proves whether he is a good coach or not, it's just players saying what players say when a new coach is coming in. I'm not saying Parish is a bad coach, I've absolutely no idea as we didn't see enough of him at Salford. I would have thought that Manly could have their choice of assistants so it bodes well for him that they chose Parish. But players saying they are looking forward to working with him proves absolutely nowt

Jamie Lyon played Origin in 2010 - did they work together then?

I'm just trying to imagine the reaction on here if our board took a leaf out the Crusaders book and decided to withdraw from Superleague and reside in the championships for the reasons above.

It's not a pretty thought!

They wanted him out,because he wanted them out,he is at Manley,good luck to him.He new he would get a job.
They new they would be on the Dole.Manley get good bloke,as Jamie Lyon says.were left with Feka.I know who is laughing.

Well Feka is for sure but also Sidlow, the Adamsons and a few other young uns who need to be coached.

Really do not understand your Love In with Matt lance & DI.

Its gone - get behind what we have.

Tell me e.b,what exactly have we got.? How many of the Salford staff go to Australia for god knows for how many weeks to sign a new coach and end up 6months later losing him and to cap it all resign the coach they originally did`nt want,no wonder we are 4million in debt,a new member of the back room staff signs for another team and the club don`t know,the stadium management put blue seats in,the club did`nt know,it beggars believe.