Does that include the 56-18 victory their U18's inflicted on us at The Willows??

I didn't even know about it, when was that?

I thought it was Swintons U20s who played Cas on Saturday at the Willows, that what it stated on the swinton fixture list.

even wakey scored 50 at the weekend,they would be above us if it wasnt for there points deduction ! with the players they have lost,it just fecking shows what a good coaching structure can do!!!
our record this year including friendlies........played 13 won 3 lost 10....not fecking good enough end of.......SIMMS OUT,VIEVERS OUT,McRAE OUT AND ALKER OUT..........
just out of curiosity too....when was the last time we put 50 points on the board in a super league game???

Haven't put 50 in the Superleague have we? most i reckon is 48 v Wakey year we made the play-offs, apart from us only Leigh haven't achieved this either

This will sound sad,but really lets all be honest,if it wasnt for our loacation and new stadium!!!! what do we honestly bring to super league??if we dont make top 8 this year,we will be only team awarded a franchise in 2008 not to have achieved this ! ohh we didnt even get one mention on the super league show this week too !

Big pev is spot on,but it was the chairman who brought in Simms,to take the flack,and it was the chairman who
sanctioned the arrival of Mcrae,and give him a four year contract,so Simms does what he is paid for,and takes the flack. the only person who can do something about it, is John Wilkinson,because he is the owner,anybody else would have
wanted answers after the cas humiliation,It was reported on commentary,that cas are not up to the salary cap.
and they don't have a football manager,Its about time we realised that Holdsworth is no ware near good enough for
an half back, and was not worth all that,will he or will he not stay.
will anything change,NO

Quote ="king of the shed"I didn't even know about it, when was that?'" Just read; "[iCastleford Tigers' academy sides enjoyed heavy wins over the Salford City Reds at the weekend, with both the under 18s and under 20's topping 50 points. On Saturday the under 18s, coached by Richard Tunningley , Danny Orr and Steve Ellerker travelled to The Willows and recorded an 56 points to 18 win, having trailed 18-12 at half time[/i". from their website (at www.castigers.com/article.php?id=1396 ) but maybe it was against Swinton?!

Quote ="king of the shed"I didn't even know about it, when was that?'" Just read; "[iCastleford Tigers' academy sides enjoyed heavy wins over the Salford City Reds at the weekend, with both the under 18s and under 20's topping 50 points. On Saturday the under 18s, coached by Richard Tunningley , Danny Orr and Steve Ellerker travelled to The Willows and recorded an 56 points to 18 win, having trailed 18-12 at half time[/i". from their website (at www.castigers.com/article.php?id=1396 ) but maybe it was against Swinton?!

I entered up stood next to the Salford fans in the second half at the railway end. There was one lad who was hillarious in the abuse he was shouting at his own team. Good luck in the future.

Ok ill admit the above was me, i never actually abused the players just merely stated the fact of how shi!t and useless they were.

2 games in a row now where we have failed to make a line break. Any chance of the half backs attempting to take the line on now and again? The last try before half time pretty much summed it up. 10 seconds to go and a tap penalty to Cas. The only way they can score is the high kick to the corner, so we stand and watch the kicker put the bomb up and leave Henry isolated out wide and he is out jumped. Poor show all round. No concentration, no leadership (on or off the pitch). Must be annoying for the players as well having no-one who can actually coach on the coaching staff.

Do you know anything about Rugby League? 4 weeks ago DJ ran the show against Hull KR, the difference between then (and against Catalan & Wakey) was the forwards laid the platform, Against Cas, Saints, Crusaders, Wigan and Leeds the forwards were found wanting, Our first 2 tries yesterday were from mistakes by them to give us the try, scored straight from the mistake on both occasions. We have a big mobile pack but if they don't do the hard work up the middle the likes of DJ and Stef cannot play, its as simple as that.
DJ is a class act, who on his day is as good as anyone in the superleague, and at times last year he carried us through games, So your either not a RL fan or just very fickle, He is the perfect player to build a team around, big name attracts other players as seen with Patten

Our forwards just need to be more consistent, we have finally got an out and out hooker who can spot when the opposition is on the back foot, and has quicker/better distribution than Alker, A quality FB, A winger who when given the chance will score for fun. We need a prop who along side Cashmere, Boyle & Sidlow, can allow Patten, Smith, Ratchford, Broughton, Godwin & especially DJ to play.

Rant Over.

Well said Scott t red



Your last paragraph is spot on, especially re Godwin

couldnt be more correct

Sorry but for me we didtched the young kids who played against Hull KR to easily, they showed passion and comitment to the shirt rather than the pies like Feka. Neal should be playing as near as damb it a full game and we need to revert Cashmere to his 60 odd minutes a game he used to play in the NRL.

I know it's a clique but do think better times are ahead if we get any real heat as has been said above we have a very mobile pack, we just need to encourage the kids who did us so proud last time to run thier blood to water and maybe shame a fe of the snior pros into a response.

Cas are no where near the cap, alot of our players are kids on small contracts (arundel, clark, milner, walker, holmes, thompson).

I can not for the life see why Anderson was rushed into the team.
OK he scored a try on Sunday but FFS even I could have scored that.
Is it because he is on big money and we have to justify that.
There are a few in the team the so called big signings that should be ashamed of the performances they have put in.
Salford the last big pay day club again.

He's played 2 games after almost 7 months out FFS?!

Exactly - the point being made is that we'd won two on the bounce with a number of the youngsters given the chance - then a "big name" just automatically gets a starting place - lo & behold we've now lost two on the bounce - for me that's poor man-management

I dis-agree, against KR we had Marriot and Davidson making their debuts, it was very much backs against the wall, and i agree with youngsters being given the chance but throwing them too early week in and week out in superleague will probably only see them going backwards, Look at Kevin Penny....

He was given a spot because we were low on numbers, Injuries and Suspension have forced our hand to throw Anderson back in, Ok its clear for everyone to see he isnt match fit, but there is only one way to get match fitness, and hopefully soon it will pay dividends

"Cometh the hour cometh the man" ?

But, yes I tend to agree that too much pressure too soon can cause trouble for young developing players - even so, certainly for Crusaders I'd have kept the same teamsheet if I could

Now I agree, Anderson shouldn't have been rushed back into the side and, probably, isn't match fit, but he showed some great athleticism and pace to score that try. Which indicates, when he's match fit we have a great player on our hands. Like somebody else said, maybe the best way to get him match fit is to get him in the team and playing games.

Of the so called big signings, do you think Wild hasn't performed, maybe Nero, or what about Patten. To me those three have given really good service so far. Granted, what the F&@k has happened to Feka, but Wild certainly runs his blood to water for the team and is definite improvement on Swain in attack. I suppose you could argue we have. roughly, at 50/50 success rate, Wild/Nero/Patten v Feka/Bailey/Anderson. Anderson and Gleeson, although I wouldn't class him as a big signing, could still prove to be successful.

I'm not sure how to improve the quality of personnel within the side. There must be real trouble going on behind the scenes, it doesn't seem to matter what the club does, changes manager, changes players, the result is always the same. We the fans get let down. Maybe it's our fault, for not getting behind the team when times are tough.

Whilst I don't disagree entirely (and I do believe that you shouldn't change a winning team) most young forwards will tell you that there are two main differences between playing Academy and First Team football - one is the speed of the game and the other is the time it takes you to recover.

I'm all for throwing young lads in and they did a grand job for us but their ability to back-up week on week may well explain why Anderson, Feka et al have been called upon.

I still think we need to give Anderson half a dozen games before using him as (yet another) scape-goat though!

He is never going to get match fit if he doesn't even try to take the ball in and makes naff all attempt to tackle! He is lazy and looks like he is laughing all the way to the bank. Disgraceful!