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| Yet again at the end of the game we had so called fans shouting abuse at the players. There are a group who every game stand at the tunnel exit next to the club shop and hurl abuse at all and sundry. You can see the players faces as they walk off they are shocked and dismayed.
I am not Smiths biggest fan, but last night he walked off between two players so he could be shielded from the so called fans.
Who in their right mind would want to come or stay at the club when your own fans hurl personal abuse at you.
I am not happy with things at the club but will these numpties please wake up and realise what they are doing at games is seriously damaging the reputation of Salford.
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| CallumisNOTared, Ave it (who has been sensible in the past), and ....88 (more like whinge til everyone else dies),
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you have a right to an opinion
you have a right to express that opinion bound by law, moralitu and manners,
you have NO right for us to accept that opinion unless all of it can be backed up.
Do not assume that putting it on a forum, twitter, myspace or bog-wall means that you can ignore the latter two.
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| Quote ="Callumisared"littler and walton!!! you know walton who come in for three games did excellent now he is in the reserves again!!!'" so lets just stop and think for a minute. you had the head coach in front of you. did you ask him why he doesn't play littler and walton in the centres, or did you decide that it would be much bigger and more clever just to yell abuse at him?
you see, if you had done the former, you, and presumably others on here if you shared the answer, might get a better idea behind the coach's reasoning, and maybe give him and the team a bit more support.
sorry, i've just realised i probably lost you at the "think" bit.
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| Quote ="Fatboys Limb"Callumisared, Ave It!, salfordtillidie88 and other idiots like them are FAR more damaging to the club than Sean McRae ever could be. You have made no sensible, constructive comments and just want to abuse someone, anyone, because you lack maturity and intelligence.
The three of you have all proved exactly what is wrong with our club at present. You three, and morons like you, are the main reason that there is such a poor atmosphere at The Willows, that players and officials have abuse (and other things!) hurled at them and that the Shed is such an unpleasant place to be.
Your negativity will cause far more problems than any mistakes that our players or coaching staff make. I sincerely hope that Callumisared is banned from The Willows for his actions yesterday that the other two of you have the decency to grow up before posting again.
And before any of you three idiots, or any of your mates, try telling me that you deserve to have an opinion, how many years you have been attending, how loyal you are, how you are right about McRae, blah, blah, blah, can I suggest you save it because after your other comments on this thread nothing you say will matter one bit.
Pathetic.'"
Last nights post was a bit alcohol infused and I was really angry. Now I've had time to calm down a bit, maybe I shouldn't have abused smith and Mcrae in the way I did, but for me my point still stands. I've not missed a Salford game home or away for the last 5 season (although some might point out i missed the Hull KR friendly this year ) and I've never felt this low, not even when were relagated and knowing a few people inside the club I can honestly say that no one is happy at the moment and that really upsets me, the team, the players and the board arn't going to come out and say this in public, but I think its there for everyone to see.
I'm not talking just about the playing side because IMO opinion we've been OK most weeks so I'm fairly happy on that score its whats going on behing the scenes. Players making jokes on facebook, Players talking about Mcrae behind his back to fans, what went on in florida I mean the club couldn't even organise a minutes last night what more can I say
So yeah slate me for what I said last night, but don't for one minute insult me and tell me I don't know what I'm talking about, I'm salford through and through and only want whats best for my club. Yes I come out and say things without thinking, but we can't all be perfect if your all happy to sit there and take whats going on thats fine by me. This is my last post on the subject as I'm finding myself getting wound up again sat at my keyboard.
Rant over and cya next week!!!
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| Why don't we clear the air, invite the coach down to forever reds, set up a proper forum with a panel and chair person and lets talk about what we "think" is wrong or perceive to be wrong, two hours of intelligent chat where we could even "brain storm" ideas which may lead to improvements not only on the field but off the field as well. At present all I can see is negativety that is destroying this club we all love, apart from my parents it has been the there for me for most of my 47 years.
The players are more distant from the fans than I can ever remember, but who can blame them, we need to get this sorted out before the next campaign, we have done better this year than most people would have dared think about we have beaten the top 3 and 2 of these away from home we are not bottom we can still win our last 5 games, we need to all pull together. I was disappointed last night but it was a 100 times better than Warrington and the tries were well taken, the main difference was in the half backs with the stuff that Brough tried coming and mylers and smiths not. I would also suggest a pre-season training at southport because this dry weather training is no good for a wet super league.
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| It's all very well slagging off Mcrae but who would want to be Salford's coach at the moment? Some of our most promising young players are leaving and the board have not followed up their promises about the ground and funding.
Yes everyone is bored with the current style of rugby but with Turner, White and Talau out we are going to be short of attacking ideas. I think the whole atmosphere aroung the club would be totally different if we could see a new ground being built. Remember all the players who signed for Salford in the past 2 years, and Mcrae, expected to be playing in a new stadium next year.
Apathy rules at the moment: falling attendances; no new stadium; players leaving; injuries; nothing to play for. I bet there aren't to many players at other clubs desperate to sign for SCR at the moment.
So, we have just got to get on with it and hope 2010 is a whole lot better. Simply a change of coach IMO would change very little.
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| The Butcher hits the nail on the head for me. I personally don't like SM as a coach but whatever I have against him is not going to get solved by ranting, raving and swearing at the man. I reserve the right to criticise players and coaching staff when I pay my hard earned money to watch them a) repeat the same mistakes week in week out or b)appear to not give a stuff weather we win lose or draw and this is happening on a regular basis. SM has been interviewed on a number of occasions and appears to have no idea why we win or lose. This is not the sign of a good coach in my opinion. There are players who appear to have issues with him. This needs to be investigated by the club and sort out either SM or the players, whoever happens to be at fault becasue at the moment we are drifting. Giving us time is only going to make matters worse if we have the same personnel becasue there are clearly issues that have to be dealt with one way or another. I also call upon any player who doesn't want to play for Salford and is prepared to bide their time waiting for a move to strap on a pair and either go or stand up and be counted. The players and coaching staff have to start giving us something positive to shout about becasue last night was just dire. We have more wins than many people gave us credit for but I wouldn't mind losing some of the games we have if it appeared we were trying.
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| Quote ="Red 72"It's all very well slagging off Mcrae but who would want to be Salford's coach at the moment? Some of our most promising young players are leaving and the board have not followed up their promises about the ground and funding.
Yes everyone is bored with the current style of rugby but with Turner, White and Talau out we are going to be short of attacking ideas. I think the whole atmosphere aroung the club would be totally different if we could see a new ground being built. Remember all the players who signed for Salford in the past 2 years, and Mcrae, expected to be playing in a new stadium next year.
Apathy rules at the moment: falling attendances; no new stadium; players leaving; injuries; nothing to play for. I bet there aren't to many players at other clubs desperate to sign for SCR at the moment.
So, we have just got to get on with it and hope 2010 is a whole lot better. Simply a change of coach IMO would change very little.'" I would be willing to give it ago would be easier than having to work 13 hours a day.Having a boss who would do nothing no matter what crap you were churning out sounds like the dream job to me
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| This whole " some players are unhappy with the coach" irritates me because it happens every time at Salford. Who do these players think they are? ( Obviously if Offiah was everyones agent they would all be world beaters and worth a kings ransom).
I personally think that Salford at too near the edge to start with the player power again. They should have a little more respect for the club and the fans, a poor side and no sign of a stadium will put us in a very very bad position in 12 months time.
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| i might have gone over the top last night which i am sorry for but it was just a spur of the moment thing and my temper took over my head which like i said i am sorry for!!and a quick message to all the fans on here who slag me off for what i said are pathetic bacuse im the one that goes home and away week in week out where as i know a lot off people on here dont so theses fans who only go to home games because they cant be bothered going away and i know alot of people are going to reply to this saying we do go away but for those who dont go away but have got the cheek to slag me off we get around 3-4 thousand at home and 500 away what does that tell you for some of the fans on here....if you do go home and away then fair play you have your opinion against me but if you can only be bothered going once every 2 weeks dont bother slagging me off and try and go home and away!!!! as i said i am sorry for what happened last night and we will take it from there
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| your apologie should be directed to mcrae which i hope you will be man enough to do. i suggest maybe a little less alcohol in the future may help the situation...
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| Quote ="Fatboys Limb"And before any of you three idiots, or any of your mates, try telling me that you deserve to have an opinion, how many years you have been attending, how loyal you are, how you are right about McRae, blah, blah, blah, can I suggest you save it because after your other comments on this thread nothing you say will matter one bit. '" Quote ="Callumisared"and a quick message to all the fans on here who slag me off for what i said are pathetic bacuse im the one that goes home and away week in week out where as i know a lot off people on here dont so theses fans who only go to home games because they cant be bothered going away and i know alot of people are going to reply to this saying we do go away but for those who dont go away but have got the cheek to slag me off we get around 3-4 thousand at home and 500 away what does that tell you for some of the fans on here....if you do go home and away then fair play you have your opinion against me but if you can only be bothered going once every 2 weeks dont bother slagging me off and try and go home and away!!!! '"
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| The sooner the likes of Callumisared and Ave it! along with a few other people? are no longer associated with the club the better for all concerned.
The outburst's that they both appear to be admitting to are are an absolute disgrace and they should ashamed of themselves and there is not one decent fan that I have spoken to recently who want this type of person to support the club or even belong to the Forever Reds.
The problem with people like these is that you cannot have a normal discussion with them at any time unless they get tanked up beforehand and it is quite strange when some of their targets are actually in attendance at meetings etc how quiet these people are.
No one is entitled to verbally abuse anybody whether they have paid to watch a match or not and the length of time that some people have been supporting the club(5YRS) is nothing and again does not entitle them to verbally abuse, threaten, or physically assault people(which throwing a pint of beer is)
For what it is worth the players, coaches,officials, directors other staff and supporters are working hard for the club what are these people doing?
The coaches make errors, so do the players, and so do we all but these pale into insignificance compared with damage that the likes of Callumisared and Ave it! are doing with their stupid comments and actions.
Please stay away from now on.
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| Quote ="Original Salford City Red"The sooner the likes of Callumisared and Ave it! along with a few other people? are no longer associated with the club the better for all concerned.
The outburst's that they both appear to be admitting to are are an absolute disgrace and they should ashamed of themselves and there is not one decent fan that I have spoken to recently who want this type of person to support the club or even belong to the Forever Reds.
The problem with people like these is that you cannot have a normal discussion with them at any time unless they get tanked up beforehand and it is quite strange when some of their targets are actually in attendance at meetings etc how quiet these people are.
No one is entitled to verbally abuse anybody whether they have paid to watch a match or not and the length of time that some people have been supporting the club(5YRS) is nothing and again does not entitle them to verbally abuse, threaten, or physically assault people(which throwing a pint of beer is)
For what it is worth the players, coaches,officials, directors other staff and supporters are working hard for the club what are these people doing?
The coaches make errors, so do the players, and so do we all but these pale into insignificance compared with damage that the likes of Callumisared and Ave it! are doing with their stupid comments and actions.
Please stay away from now on.'"
this is the 1st ever time i have a a rant like this so why should i be not allowed in to support its not like i do it every week!!
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| Quote ="Callumisared"this is the 1st ever time i have a a rant like this so why should i be not allowed in to support its not like i do it every week!!'"
It that is the case then apologize to Shaun McRae as soon as possible preferably in person and throw an apology the chairman's way as he does not deserve what he his receiving at present.
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| Quote ="Original Salford City Red"It that is the case then apologize to Shaun McRae as soon as possible preferably in person and throw an apology the chairman's way as he does not deserve what he his receiving at present.'"
Absolutely right - some of the posts on here recently have been well over the top - we can all criticise and disagree but to resort to vile personal abuse is never justified and completely counter productive - perhaps some people think it's funny to refer to "the slug" -certainly doesn't make me laugh or have any respect whatever for those who do it.
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| Quote ="Callumisared"<snip>.'"
i'm not d if i go home or away or not at all, the personal abuse you gave to sean mcrae is unwarranted!
you could be a leeds fan, and i would say the same if you abused someone like you did!
i hope you are man enough to apologise to his face.
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| Dear Callum.......
a lot of the posters, have been going 'home and away' for some 40+ years, just like me.
We've seen it all in that space of time..............from the finest side never to win a major trophy, to heartbreaking semi-final defeats, fantastic 'against all odds wins', and yes, rugby just as poor as you are witnessing at the moment.
It's all part of being a Salford fan.
Don't expect too much, even IF your still going 'home and away' 20 odd years from now. It just might never happen.
I'll forgive your rant, as I want us all to pull together, whatever the outcome.
Just a word of warning though, personal abuse will not be forgiven if it persists, because the truly loyal Salford fans are totally sick to death of it. It's not helping one bit.
So, either put up with what you get from our beloved club, or, give up following Salford.
BTW, I'm 48 years old tomorrow, so you can imagine just how fed up I am about it all.
Happy Birthday to me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| Calm down everyone! What Callumisared has done is wrong, to abuse the coach the way he did and then post about it is utterly stupid.
I remember when i was 18 many moons ago and there were plenty times i said and did things under the influence that i regretted in the morning.Young people make mistakes but its how they learn from them that counts. He has come out and apologised and he should apologise to the club and coach as well.(i don't think he abused JW?)At the end of the day he has not Killed,injured or hit anyone and i think the coach will have a lot more things to worry about than what a drunken 18 year old has said! To start to talk of banning people for one mistake is wrong. I think a warning and a stern talking to is much more appropriate.
The club and coach have to except criticism but it must be done in the right way and through the right channels. This is why we should all join Forever reds to discuss things properly.
The young lads who post on here are very passionate about the club and are not the devils that they have been painted out to be. They all should be encouraged to show that passion in a more positive way.
Lets not all fall out with each other at this difficult time. We all must get behind the club and the coach till the end of the season. Rant over!
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| Quote ="Jim Jalfrezi"Dear Callum.......
a lot of the posters, have been going 'home and away' for some 40+ years, just like me.
We've seen it all in that space of time..............from the finest side never to win a major trophy, to heartbreaking semi-final defeats, fantastic 'against all odds wins', and yes, rugby just as poor as you are witnessing at the moment.
It's all part of being a Salford fan.
Don't expect too much, even IF your still going 'home and away' 20 odd years from now. It just might never happen.
I'll forgive your rant, as I want us all to pull together, whatever the outcome.
Just a word of warning though, personal abuse will not be forgiven if it persists, because the truly loyal Salford fans are totally sick to death of it. It's not helping one bit.
So, either put up with what you get from our beloved club, or, give up following Salford.
BTW, I'm 48 years old tomorrow, so you can imagine just how fed up I am about it all.
Happy Birthday to me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!'"
Totally agree lets all be positive about the club we love and have a great Birthday to.
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| Quote ="Jim Jalfrezi"ta very much Davros
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| Quote ="Prestwich Red"Yet again at the end of the game we had so called fans shouting abuse at the players. There are a group who every game stand at the tunnel exit next to the club shop and hurl abuse at all and sundry. You can see the players faces as they walk off they are shocked and dismayed.
I am not Smiths biggest fan, but last night he walked off between two players so he could be shielded from the so called fans.
Who in their right mind would want to come or stay at the club when your own fans hurl personal abuse at you.
I am not happy with things at the club but will these numpties please wake up and realise what they are doing at games is seriously damaging the reputation of Salford.'"
All that I can say about idiots shouting seriously personal insults is: I'ts a good job that Ian Gormley aint around!
That's if some of this lot even know or remember him.
Some of these so called fans should keep their mouths shut whilst they still work.
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| Quote ="davros"The young lads who post on here are very passionate about the club and are not the devils that they have been painted out to be. They all should be encouraged to show that passion in a more positive way.
Lets not all fall out with each other at this difficult time. We all must get behind the club and the coach till the end of the season. Rant over!'"
absolutely spot on
us young ones ARE PASSIONATE about the club and have not experienced the good times like the 80s and early 90s which we have been told about by family who have brought us up to support salford and to this day we still do... and would love to go through the experience they have been through with salford in the 1990s winning the premiership final against halifax with 50,000 + fans turning out... this is why we come on here saying the things we do because where passionate about this club and want to experience what my family as experience while being a salford
fan... yes i was absolutely buzzing when we made the play off and just want to go through this experience again like ever single one of us on here lets just stick togerther and get through this ruff patch and hopefuly in the near future salford will be as big as us all want salford to be..
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| Quote ="salfordtillidie88"absolutely spot on
us young ones ARE PASSIONATE about the club and have not experienced the good times like the 80s and early 90s which we have been told about by family who have brought us up to support salford and to this day we still do... and would love to go through the experience they have been through with salford in the 1990s winning the premiership final against halifax with 50,000 + fans turning out... this is why we come on here saying the things we do because where passionate about this club and want to experience what my family as experience while being a salford
fan... yes i was absolutely buzzing when we made the play off and just want to go through this experience again like ever single one of us on here lets just stick togerther and get through this ruff patch and hopefuly in the near future salford will be as big as us all want salford to be..'" Salford won the 2ND DIVISION final against Halifax.The large majority of fans were there for the 1st division final which followed.The 80s and 90s were not particularly good times for Salford,although we did have brief decent spells, and the crowds weren't great either.The last time Salford had a team to compete regularly with the best was the Watkins/Gill/Hesketh etc,era of the early to mid seventies.Believe me,as someone who has watched Salford for well over 40 years,this team is nowhere near the worse I've seen.
Since the 70s all Salford's successes have come at the lower level,2nd division titles,2nd division premiership finals,promotions and play-off finals to Super League.
That's the nature of the club we support.No major title for over 40 years,always struggled in the top division,too good for the lower division.
Salford will only become a "big" club,competing regularly with the best,if they can get more income into the club either through increased attendances,the new stadium,or a Mr Moneybags taking over the club.
In the meantime be thankful we have John Wilky as chairman or we could be like Swinton or Oldham,both former "big" clubs,but now struggling.
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