Couldn't agree more.

I can't believe that half this topic was created in the first place... I also don't care if they come over and applaud... I really don't give two hoots... We have the choice to go and watch them away from home... nobody is forcing anybody, so why do the fans deserve applause from the players ? When the players come over after the garbage they have just produced and applaud the fans... it leads fans into clapping back... and collectively as a team they really don't deserve it. If Lee Jewitt was waving to his wife and child then so what... I don't really care... he's not committed a crime has he ?

Like I said... I couldn't give a toss what they do anymore.

This post saddens me terribly because, probably like everyone else, I know who you are (LF) and appreciate the efforts you have put into the club over the years. What is so sickening is that, like myself, you seem to have reached the point where it has become unimportant watching Salford because of what is being served up. The nature of the club has changed and as paying spectators I feel we are being cheated. I never felt like that before despite the interminable gloomy years - I always felt like it was part of me and I was part of it. Now, I stand in the Shed and watch with almost resignation and disinterest. These bits and pieces of nonsense about did he or didn't he wave or applaud me are trivial compared to the isolation of the clubs dwindling hardcore of honest supporters.

can some one please lock this topic now. it seems that someone has mis read the situation and now it has been blown out of all proportion and has even upset the players wife. lets get a grip folks. as JJ has said, it is only a game not a matter of life and death. if you dont feel as though the club are doing you proud, simple. stay at home. rant over

Spot on. And you can class me as part of the dissinterested anymore clan, so much so I've backed against Salford every game this season and won, they've paid for my trips to Edinburgh and Perpignan too so at least theres some saving grace.

Thank You... I appreciate your comments.

It's an odd feeling, and one which I never believed would be possible. I never thought I'd see the day when I would much prefer to spend the afternoon going for a walk than going to a game.... in fact... I never thought anything would overtake that feeling of going to a game. I think it's been coming for a good while this feeling and gradually got worse over the last few weeks. I think it really hit me against Harlequins... I was walking down Weaste Lane from what I would call the De La Salle end. As you know... walking down that road you are practically looking down to the stadium. I felt nothing. I used to feel excited walking down that road with the stadium in view... but nothing. I questioned why I was doing it.... what it was giving me. There was no excitement... no adrenaline.... I may as well have been going shopping. I spent much of that second half sat in the press box... chatting to a couple of members of the press... who were also bored. I was described by one as being like the child who has had enough of playing with his toys and can't find anything better to do, so ambles around looking for something to catch his eye.

I do hope this is a phase I am going though.... but I am desperately seeking something to lift my spirits.

If you feel the club are "doing you proud" mate I am pleased for you but my post alludes to people who have been going home and away for many years finally reaching the point where they are not proud and HAVE thought it may be time to stay at home. If a bloke like Loyal Fan is questioning it then we, as a club, are in big trouble with regards to the loyal diehard support that has stuck with the club through thin and thinner.
FWIW I did agree with both JJ and Fungus that the thread has been done to death about Lee's wife and child and is not really necessary.

it's unreal how a topic about how a fan, who thinks a player waves and blowes kisses to them is actualy doing it to his wife and daughter, is blown out of all proportion and turned into a completely different discution, it's a wonder that players want to stay here when they are treated with so much hatred when things go wrong,

I'm glad it has turned into a different discussion.... as most people on here will surely feel we shouldn't have been discussing what was said in the original post anyway as it was completely pointless and followed the lines of having a go for having a go sake.

Bobbins I can accept.... effortless I can't. Plus.... we are so boring. Watching games with the tactics we are deploying at the moment.... I may as well watch Rugby U***n.

If i have upset anyone then apologies i obviously have miss read the situation end off. I don't have a problem with him waving at his kids as people have said if your daughter is waving you would naturally wave back.

This is not another thread about sacking the coach or blaming players it is just about peoples views about what we do next to get out of the situation we are in.Do we have money to buy new players ?Do we get players in on loan?Are there any players available to do a decent job for us?Just a couple of suggestions, maybe im going in the wrong direction I dont know would love your views.

Lee Jewitt is the kind of player our club has been crying out for for 10 years, like all thing you wait ages then 2 (him and rob parker) come at once.

Lee and Rob are physical, hard, rough kind of forward who physically and mentally should intimidate opposition fowards, giving massive hits out both legally and Illegally sometimes to allow the game to go our way.

The only problem with at the moment is

1) Experience - He keeps getting caught dishing out treatment to opposition important players, causing penalities to be given away, no point in having a standup fight with somebody every week because the fans wont like the penality given against them and adds pressure on the team.
A bit of better coaching and a word of advice from Parker on how to be physical but not illegal all the time would go along way to making Jewitt the main stay of our pack for years to come.

2) The rest of the forwards - Because of our lack of speed out wide the tactic seems to be roll down the middle so the forwards are being overused and sum individuals in the pack are underperforming as well so it doesnt matter how many parker and Jewitt knock down they are overrun in the end.

Both Parker and Jewitt need the rest of the forwards to be going forward both in defence and attack to see their strenghts.

rugby what

Listen mate - I have no beef with you or anyone else who feels their 'loyalty' stretches to bounds that I can no longer find acceptable. As for not "buying the product" - I already have with my ST (and one for my Son and one for my Daughter) and will continue to shout my team on until I get fed up of the same rubbish served up each week and then I will give the home games a miss as well. It is not something I want to do but something I feel I have no option to do, given what is happening. As Loyal Fan rightly points out - I have no problem with watching us when we are cr@p (hey we are all Solly fans so we are used to it) but I will not continually accept this lack of effort or boring one man rugby. The very last thing we, as supporters, should be doing is falling out with each other about it. We all love the club but have differing levels of tolerance. Clearly mine is lower than yours mate. No offence meant, it is a discussion forum for varied points of view. With regards the original point I think it was a clear misunderstanding and Lee has every right to wave to his children. I also think he is the type of player we need.
How do we get out of this mess? God only knows but, given we have no money available, we have to try and loan better than we have. If Wilshere does go to Hull we may be able to generate some cash or a decent exchange? I doubt we could find anyone who is putting as little effort in as he has this year - injured or not?
Ridiculously, I know that I will still be in the Shed when we are on our 15th successive defeat and nothing much will have changed but I just want someone in authority to do something instead of blaming each other and telling us they have no idea how to improve matters.

Time to change your username perhaps?

We really want to stop this turning it into a witch hunt! There is only one person to be burnt at the stake and thats the person who doesnt have the answers

first sensible post youve ever made

Jewitt is one of the best forwards we have got he is tryin his hardest to do whats best for the team if you wanna have a go at anyone make it someone who isn't trying. what is the point in going to a rugby match if all you want to do is abuse them you c**k

I go week in, week out. All I want is a bit of passion. The second half display on Sunday wasn't worth going to Hull for, however I will go to Hull again on Sunday because I love the club, but the crop of players we have atm (with a few exceptions of course) I have no time for, they are stealing a living. Not a bit of effort from some of them, so I will abuse them if I like, sometimes in sport, fans can lift a team which I have tried to do for years, now it is about the team lifting the fans because I am starting to loose patience with them along with many others.



Jewitt is awful at the moment, Stapleton is out best forward and at this moment in time he is streaks above the rest in my eyes, even he isn't playing very well. Jewitt maybe a decent player if he can keep his head, he came on made hardly any yards off 3/4 drives then tried to take someones head off and start a fight, Yeah brilliant forward he is.



What is the point in coming on a rugby league forum if all your going to do is abuse people?
Pot, Kettle, Black.

At the end of the day there are more important things in life to worry about other than Rugby.

It's a sport, I go on a Friday, gutted on the Saturday over it by Sunday. Don't let it rule your life because if it does you won't have one.

So they lost, so what. Imagine you were playing for a team and you were getting beat everyweek and some fans called you all the names under the sun? You wouldn't like it either. your going on as if they want to lose be serious there professional sportsman FFS.

No-one deserves abuse full stop. Grow up!

I don't think for one minute they [uwant[/u to lose.... I just think some of them couldn't give a toss whether they win [uor[/u lose.

of course they can, why play the game?? It looks like that because we are getting hammered week in week out thats all