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| I am sure he has a full diary.
So do I.
Forget the Forever Reds meeting,all he needs to do is to talk to the Advertiser or,in some way communicate.
The prospect of a Forever Reds meeting,when his diary permits,is a sop.
Too little,too late.
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| correction!!!our north east friend informs me its starting on the 13th!
jcbs turning up at 9.13am !!!
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| Quote ="Chris Charles No1 Fan"According to the geordie fan, he was spounting on the train back from Warrington that it starts october 14th'"
No, no it doesn't.
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| Quote ="Teddington Red"I am sure he has a full diary.
So do I.
Forget the Forever Reds meeting,all he needs to do is to talk to the Advertiser or,in some way communicate.
The prospect of a Forever Reds meeting,when his diary permits,is a sop.
Too little,too late.'"
[iYou [/ihave a full diary? Pull the other on!? Cricket, Rugby and Travel. Sounds like a real bitch!!!
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| Quote ="Teddington Red"I am sure he has a full diary.
So do I.
Forget the Forever Reds meeting,all he needs to do is to talk to the Advertiser or,in some way communicate.
The prospect of a Forever Reds meeting,when his diary permits,is a sop.
Too little,too late.'"
The website is ready and waiting.
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| Quote ="Herbert's saggy ar$e"No, no it doesn't.'"
dont shoot the messanger. come on guys dont tell me you dont believe the geordie (salfords greatest ever loyal fan even though he only appeared 2 years ago)
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| Quote ="Teddington Red"I am sure he has a full diary.
So do I.
Forget the Forever Reds meeting,all he needs to do is to talk to the Advertiser or,in some way communicate.
The prospect of a Forever Reds meeting,when his diary permits,is a sop.
Too little,too late.'"
MOST fans would rather get the questions answered from John in person rather than some "EDITED" comments from any newspapers .
Think everybody knows what you say & what gets printed in newspapers is often very misguided & sometimes very removed from what was actually said in the interview.
Has it not occurred that what was printed in the Advertiser a couple of weeks ago may have not been what was actually quoted to them??????
Maybe the editor of the asaid paper is a fan of another club /doesn't like Salford or many other reasons & decided to run the story to put our club in a bad light???????
As I have said, John will come down to answer questions .a.s.a.p so you will just have to wait.
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| John has always been honest and open, BUT like many fans I feel let down at the moment by the lack of real trustworthy news from the club. We have an Official web site which could be used.
As for Forever Reds, John and the trust have established a great relationship and hope this continues, if you can't attend Shirl/Billysmum always asks for questions and does a detailed write up after so it shouldn't be a problem.
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| Quote ="Red Willow"John has always been honest and open, BUT like many fans I feel let down at the moment by the lack of real trustworthy news from the club. We have an Official web site which could be used.
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Exactly!
The truths better than the lies, just let us all know whats going on now! If there's no stadium to be had so be it I don't really care just spill the beans for the sake of clarity please!
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| Maybe there is a lack of official news because there is a chance the stadium may fall through completely and the club are working to prevent this. There is no point announcing that and recieving a backlash (from Widnes and Leigh especially) until there is no chance it is going to be built.
Thats the worst case scenario anyway.
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| Quote ="Red Willow"John has always been honest and open, BUT like many fans I feel let down at the moment by the lack of real trustworthy news from the club. We have an Official web site which could be used.'"
Thats what I've been saying as well RW.
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| looks like JW has his hands full with his proposed hotel at Buile Hill as well.As reported in the MEN and Advertiser today.
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| Look, we all accept John has done a fantastic job, and that his honesty at Forever Reds is to be commended.
The consensus,though,is that there should be something on the Clubs website.
That would overcome BBM doubts about the Advertisers alleged 'spin'.
Do we really feel they are bad guys simply because they have said something the Club doesn't like.
As Ferder said at the start,I think,nothing in that article has been shown to be wrong or even challenged!
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| Quote ="Teddington Red"Look, we all accept John has done a fantastic job, and that his honesty at Forever Reds is to be commended.
The consensus, though, is that there should be something on the club’s website... I think ,nothing in that article has been shown to be wrong or even challenged!'"
It depends on what info you want. Remember, the official website is the official receptacle for the club's communiques; official being the operative word. Let’s say, for example, the Chairman issues an open letter to the supporters on the website. What’s it going to say? Probably that the club are extremely confident Peel will deliver a world class stadium. If that’s what you want to hear, then you’ve got nothing to worry about.
Will such a letter include information about whether the new stadium will generate enough money for Salford to be a Super League force? Will it include information about whether a standing terrace will be included in the design? Will it include any other information not already brought to attention by the fans? Maybe. Maybe not. This is the benefit of being able to get people such as John Wilkinson down to a Forever Reds meeting — an open forum. Your questions get asked, and you find out whether you get the answers.
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| I wonder when the artist impression of our new stadium over at Barton will be ready for us all to see ?
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| Not really ar*sed about seeing an artists impression of the new stadium to be honest because it'll most probaly be changed again, super league 4055 might be a more realistic target date
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| Quote ="Chico". This is the benefit of being able to get people such as John Wilkinson down to a Forever Reds meeting — an open forum. Your questions get asked, and you find out whether you get the answers.'"
I agree to a certain extent, but I'm more then 90% sure that at FR JW will spill us the same the crap he has been for years.
" we're still on course, its still going to be the most iconic stadium in RL blah blah".
I'd never though I'd see the day when I have a pop at wilky like I have just done and knowing him personally it hurts, but I just think the whole thing is a farce and anyone who doesn't needs to take their rose tinted specs of just for a minute.
Rant over for now.
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| Quote ="Ave It!"I agree to a certain extent, but I'm more then 90% sure that at FR JW will spill us the same the crap he has been for years. '"
At least, if you can ask the question personally, you’ll get some sort of answer.
Quote ="Ave It!"Not really ar*sed about seeing an artists impression of the new stadium to be honest because it'll most probaly be changed again, super league 4055 might be a more realistic target date
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Or rather: NewsCorpafone Interplanetary Mega League XVII. Battling to the death by then, like [iThe Running Man[/i or [iClimbing For Dollars[/i.
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| Another depressing thread on this stadium. I think Lord Lucan will turn up first
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| Quote ="Ave It!"I agree to a certain extent, but I'm more then 90% sure that at FR JW will spill us the same the crap he has been for years.
" we're still on course, its still going to be the most iconic stadium in RL blah blah".
I'd never though I'd see the day when I have a pop at wilky like I have just done and knowing him personally it hurts, but I just think the whole thing is a farce and anyone who doesn't needs to take their rose tinted specs of just for a minute.
Rant over for now.'"
I don't mean to rubbish JW, as we are grateful for his great efforts over the years since 1982, but as I have said before he is not above all and should not be treated as if he's God.
But I think those fans who have been protecting JW over the years against those of us who question him, have no gone quiet? Why is that? DO they also feel let down, after being promised a great future for the club? The egg is truly on the clubs face. If this stadium (of any kind) never happens, we don't deserve SL, and I sense the club would lose it's franchise come 2011.
It's time JW, Trish, Paul Mc, Tarry (who I have always found to talk b/s) and anyone else, came to us loyal fans who have dug deep to help keep this club supported and give a HONEST response to this issue ASAP. Otherwise, I can see a very poor support for us next season and low crowds at home!
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| I think JW will come out with the latest ppositions soon Gan. Basically the Administration changed the Tables & Chairs of the deal. I think you will find - which is obvious of course - that I think Adam has gone and replaced by `Grey Suits` from Peel. These `Grey Suits` aren`t necessarily close to the Reds and therefore communication is the issue and obviously news of current position isn`t always at hand for John.
Its clear to me that a Stadium will be built ready for 2010 but not to the spec we were shown at the start and John has already confirmed this. At no time has John said that its not going to happen and rest assured as he is a man of immense integrity I feel he is certain to come up with the goods and on time.
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| well put early bath.
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| WELL SAID "Early Bath"
The sooner works starts on the site over at Barton the better and perhaps then and only then will the snipers crawl back in to the dug outs.
I am really looking forward to going to our new stadium and the sooner we see workmen on the site all this SHIT from fans from other clubs will stop.
SALFORD CITY REDS WILL BE PLAYING IN THE ENGAGE SUPER LEAGUE IN A NEW STADIUM IN 2010.....
THE FUTURE IS BRIGHT....
THE FUTURE IS SALFORD CITY REDS....
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| Quote ="Early Bath"I think JW will come out with the latest ppositions soon Gan. Basically the Administration changed the Tables & Chairs of the deal. I think you will find - which is obvious of course - that I think Adam has gone and replaced by `Grey Suits` from Peel. These `Grey Suits` aren`t necessarily close to the Reds and therefore communication is the issue and obviously news of current position isn`t always at hand for John.
Its clear to me that a Stadium will be built ready for 2010 but not to the spec we were shown at the start and John has already confirmed this. At no time has John said that its not going to happen and rest assured as he is a man of immense integrity I feel he is certain to come up with the goods and on time.'"
Arn't these 'Grey Suits' the one's who have been you main shirt sponser for the past few years.
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| Salford are sponsored by the Trafford Centre not Peel Holdings PLC. The `Grey Suits` haven`t been seen - to my knowledge - behind the counter at Selfridges there. I have a pal who is with Northern Rock but he doesnt know who is going to take over from Kevin Keegan at Newcastle.
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