Sorry Beezer, but we can only stay upbeat for so long, I'm nearly 21 and I've had enough all I've known is to be perfectly honest I don't know how you older folk cope

. Don't get me wrong ive had some great times that I wouldn't swap for the world and the high of Salford winning a game is the biggest high ever nothing comes close, but enough is enough now something must change!!

eh ! who are you calling old

stick with it your still young.salford will be better and the stadium will be built . Keep the faith.....

Do we have a Couch for Ave It to lye on so he can find out whats going on in his head?



Ive said it before Players change, Coaches change, people change, we change, adapting is the key, Salford itsnt the the team or the club i fell in love with imo is a shaddow of its former self for what it ment to me but in reality Salford City Reds has moved on, its more proffesional on and off the field, the players are technically better and we've got more more exposure with the trafford centre than we ever had before.

Dont look back and wish it was like the old days because life always moves forward and as soon as the club starts looking backwards at glory like swinton then we'll be in trouble.

Keep the faith and keep the chin up fella

I'm sorry but for me we have been out and out lied to, the club knew the stadium was highly unlikely to come in one time (if at all).
And it appears now we are loseing two of the brilliant youngsters we have on the books.

Sorry to be a doom monger but with the news that the RFL are chaseing clubs over the state of thier stadiums seems to be the first warning shots across the bows of the unfashionable clubs with hovels and a clear indication that we will be kicked out soon as the bids for the next rounds start.

Lets hope you are right REDRY and that JW and the rest are working frantically behind the scences, because if they are not in two years time we WONT be in the superleague.

And my response to the person who doesnt believe the club needs a relationship with its fans cos its an Americanism is talking through the whole in his/her rugby ball.

Why do you think there is a website or that the club lets the 4eva reds use the club etc. I suggest you look at some branding literature, it may be American but its proven, ask one of the clubs marketing department if you dont believe me and if you dont need a relationship why are you posting on here when the only thing you have in common with people is your RELATIONSHIP with the club.

And just exactly how do you KNOW that - it may be your opinion - it's my opinion that the club have not lied to us - there have been a set of events that could not have been foreseen which has lead to the current position.

Please tell us just what the club should, or could, have done differently - if you were chairman or a director what would you do?

Daz how can you say that? Do you know that it won't be built thus making the club liars?

I know for certain that there is a lot of work going on behind the scenes involving the big players in the delivery of the stadium (Not construction at this stage obviously) and the RFL are well aware of this and are also involved.

I've said it before and I will again, until I'm told by the main people (Not people on an Internet forum) that it isn't happening then I have no real reason to believe it wont.

Anyone have any evidence to the contrary?

beezer are you the person going to be building the stadium and what eveidence do you have that this is going to happen i aint heard out to convince me

That was me too I'm afraid.

I have a decent understanding of marketing and branding theory (it's all a bit soft IMO, I'm a PR Graduate

), I just fail to understand this idea that club owe us all something. When I buy a season ticket the transaction entitles me to attend Salford home games, not to know every single detail regarding the running of the club. I assume the fans are kept in the dark about the stadium because there's nothing good to report and any bad news released would cause uproar and further derail the project.

It doesn't aggrovate me that fans feel a connection with the club, obviously thats great, but the sense of entitlement some fans seem to have on the grounds that they pay to watch is astounding.

As I've said on another thread, what utter, utter nonsense.



What have you heard to suggest the stadium won't happen? I haven't heard anything to convince me yet, just a load of doom mongers spouting off.

Well simply put the club must know what an utter PR disaster the whole stadium debarcle is becomeing, if there is 'there is a lot of work going on behind the scenes involving the big players in the delivery of the stadium' then the club needs to move swiftly (if it is not already too late for some) to prevent the loss of fans and possibly sponsership (would you wish to be associated with what to many looks like a slowly sinking ship??).

Funny also that the RFL come out with a statement saying that certain clubs need address the stadium issue. As you know Paul i'm a fan, but i'm not going to show blind faith, the club needs to work harder to convince a great many fans that the dreams will become a reality and not turn into a a dead end nightmare.

I and others may not have evidence to the contrary but knowbody appears to have evidence that the stadium will get built.

Do you have any evidence that the stadium won't get built?

Read you comment with interest.

1) Glad you admit your a smart .
2) Of course the club has ambition all people and organisations do. But what is it? having spoken to people within the club it is clear that there is a difference between the aims and objectives and practice.
3) the average attendance for this season compared to when 2006 is DOWN 708 per game over games at a conservative £10 per ticket thats £99K in the season, Plus potential revenue from food and drink, merchandisng, car parking, additional sponsorship or corporate as they increase the more fans you have as the club will get more exposure. It really is quite simple (Yes our average may increase or decrease b4 the end of the season so i will lookforward to end of the season to number crunch with you)

As to mocking theory, you can as its a free world, but the theory is based upon business fact.

Yes 700 you may say is not a lot but attendaces are built over a period and not in a season.
4)Is it sound to NOT have merchandising when the league is looking for it and you competition has.
5)The season 3yrs ago is past your correct, but the evidence shows that if Salford are better on the pitch then people will return, which is what the club wants as the stadium in barton will look pretty poor at 1/4 full.
6)Its not a case of attributing blame, most of us will admit (reading the posts about the ground) that we should be in superleague on merit, but we are only in cos of the fancy "iconic" ground and once we are their we will be the richest club in the league (heard that from the chairman at 4eva reds). So if we have no ground the promises made have not been met and the league isnt going to beleive us with a new bid.
7)No its not a revelation and at this moment Wakey and Cas are better on the field, i would guess comercial revenue is higher. Against Wakey they dont have a new ground (i think thats correct?) Cas are making an annoucement re theirs on friday. So the question is this who ticks the most boxes to be kicked out at present us Wakey or Cas? So r we gonna rely on the other two messing up to save our skins?


I cant say how they can improve completly as i dont work inside the club, but i can say from what i have seen and heard from speaking to people, there is a lot wrong with the structure and decision making.

Please feel free EX Salford Uni to correct my english, and i havent give up on them, i just feel i have to say what i believe is wrong

Get real man, your club has sold you a dream without substance, and you have swallowed it hook line and sinker.

We won't get a stadium

We won't have our franchised renewed

Young and talented players out

Old has been Aussies and Superleague rejects coming in

Local derbies with Leigh for a couple of seasons and then Swinton and regular visits to Blackpool (The Team not the NL1 Final!)

..........and I'll still be supporting what's left of yesterday's dream

Nice to see you're still bitter about not getting a franchise

Quote ="Gruffy"icon_cool.gifI cant say how they can improve completly as i dont work inside the club, but i can say from what i have seen and heard from speaking to people, there is a lot wrong with the structure and decision making.'" Interesting timing for the following announcement then, considering your comments. reds.originalreddevils.com/2009/ ... club-mark/

Quote ="Gruffy"icon_cool.gifI cant say how they can improve completly as i dont work inside the club, but i can say from what i have seen and heard from speaking to people, there is a lot wrong with the structure and decision making.'" Interesting timing for the following announcement then, considering your comments. reds.originalreddevils.com/2009/ ... club-mark/

We've got a marketing department?

Of course they have. You're not bitter or anything, oh no, just telling the truth.

By the way, how's Liverpool's new stadium coming on? It'd be interesting to see which one gets built first.

But it isn't the clubs choice of decision is it, it's down to Peel Holdings that's what people need to realise, they pull the strings and press releases and the like will be at their say so not the clubs.


[url=http://www.salfordadvertiser.co.uk/news/s/1127655_new_stadium_take_it_as_redThis is the latest and I've no reason not to believe it![/url

Ignore Fingerpost or whatever he is calling himself these days.

I feel so sorry for the fans, you are a great set of supporters who are very passionate about your club. It's about time the board came clean with you.

Peel are building the BBC arnt they? i drive past it every day and the structure seems up just putting windows and stuff in.
im no builder but would the same people on the job build the inside as well as the outside? perhaps when the builders are doing the inside the outside people will jump in the lorries and drive off to barton to start building?

Optimist - it's all about funding. The BBC are funding Media City - or to be more accurate you, I and everyone else who pays the TV licence fee are funding it! It was signed, sealed and the deal done well before the financial crisis.