I personally don't believe anything till I see it announced but someone I know who is usually right with stuff related to our club reckons Gentle is favorite now and if we don't get him it will be Millward.

If that's true please let it be Gentle as Millward would be out of the frying pan into the fire.

I hope they have the appointment set up soon as I have my 5 year season ticket offer to send off and should it be Millward I won't be sending it as I can see no good coming from it and do it on a year by year basis.

I honestly cant believe some of the crap that has beem written over the past few pages and how is it Simms is still getting a load of flack, particulary over Wrigley.

The guy has gone down under to sound out whoever is interested and look at people that perhaps not be. He has had 'TALKS' with Wrigley, not an interview and Wrigley has said he's not interested. How is that then Simms fault because someone is not interested in a job? I personally dont blame Wrigley for stayig on. He is going to learn a bucket load off Maguire when he gets there i suspect

I bet he became aware of us wanting to look at him, has spoke to Maguire who has said go if you want but i would like you to stay and he has made that decision then. Again, nothing Simms can do about that.

I honestly dont get all this hatred towards the guy. He is in a job which even JW has said he does a good job at. Yet for some on here who dont actually see what Simms does day to day slate him off.

Am i bad at my job because you dont get to see what i do day to day?

Millward is probably quite interested and i think he has done a damn good job at Leigh to put that team together. was it 2 years ago when they should have been relegated? he has transformed them and done it using local lads. Yes he didn't set the world alight at Wigan but that's a different story. He did well at St. Helens and done well in his 2 stints at Leigh. I wouldnt have millward as my number one choice until we have seen who is interested from Aus but i'm not too sure Gentle is the right guy either.

But as a club can we be that choosy? we are limited in a lot of areas at the moment and until the club turns round it fortunes a bit more we are never going to get the big names and have to hope that we get someone who can get the best out of a squad.

I'll take that as a yes then.

Did she say he was better than you?

OK CBJames name one decision that that you can prove that Simms 100% has taken that has weakened Salford as a club given the way our club is with limited resources, limited revenue, and all the rest that comes with Salford and being a smaller club in the big league.

Wrigley , Wrigley's refusal is a non story really as he was cooling on the option two weeks ago , long before Simm's & Wilkinson mission to Oz. put this down to RL Paper talk

Simms , Simms is a well known blatherer known for his off the cuff quotes ( I'm still waiting for Anthony Minichiello & Craig Gower

) . I'm not saying he's not knowledgable , I'm saying he's never learn't when to keep his trap shut until a deal is properly done.

Gentle , Of the Short List ( should we know say [iwish list [/i) he sounds the best Aus Candidate , lets wait for the big press build up followed by the stunning denial that he was ever interested .

Millward , if it was down to an available UK based coach , I'd prefer Kear thank you .

The three wise men in oz, are not qualified enough to interview anybody.In the last 25 years we have had 16 coaches
say no more,Its the chairman who will be being interviewed,by the applicants.
The applicant,I will want to bring,my own back room staff
The chairman, we will provided, Steve and Phill.
The applicant Is there any money.
The chairman no.

Do you own a Tripe Shop lance? You certainly talk a lot of it.

`He who pays the piper calls the tune.`

If you can find another piper then JAW would be delighted to leave the stage.

That's the problem with Simms role at the club. He can duck responsibilty for any decisions made by assigning blame to others.

duck what responseabilities? Do you know the in's and out's of his job and how do you know he is "ducking" work? You dont work with him do you? if not how are you or anyone else qualified on this board to pass judgement that he doesn't do the job that Wilky has employed him to do.

2 weeks ago Wilky did an interview for Boots an all where he stated that he believes Simms DOES do a good job and i certainly believe the man who employes Simms and oversee's the work he does.

Now I might not be the sharpest tool in the box but you definately have an axe to grind don't you.

Are you ex playing staff or another former employee?

I'LL SPELL IT OUT LOUD AND CLEAR FOR ONE LAST TIME FOR YOU IF YOUR STRUGGLING TO GET IT THROUGH BUT WITHOUT WILKY THERE WOULD BE SALFORD IN SUPER LEAGUE, NO NEW STADIUM GETTING BUILT AND MORE THAN LIKELY NO SALFORD RLFC AT ALL.

If none of that means anything to you then I'd suggest your not the Salford fan you think you are or poprot to be.

As the director of football the buck stops with him on football matters. if he didn't play a significant role in giving macrae a long contract and signing sick note players on long contracts then he is being paid for doing nothing. If he was instrumental in those decisions he is crap...HTH

No it doesn't help because as I said what evidence do you have that proves that he was the person who signed McRae on that contract. because I am pretty sure the directors and particular Wilky and Howard would have had the final say in that matter as is the case at the moment.

Again what evidence do you have to show he was the person who signed said players who were crocked? Iwould have thought that decision would of been down to the manager wanting them players. It is not Simms' job to tell the manager who he is and isn't having, more his job to make the deals happen.

I'll say it again, Wilky appears to have the upmost time for Simms and in his eyes as Simms' boss is more than happy with the job he does. If he was that bad for that long at hid job he would of been out a long timr ago, simple as. Like anyone else who is not capable of doing their job.

So at the moment all you can give us is what you believe in your head to be the case

It is in fact 10 coaches in 30 years.

Please don't try this ' in your head stuff'. You wrote:

I bet he became aware of us wanting to look at him, has spoke to Maguire who has said go if you want but i would like you to stay and he has made that decision then. Again, nothing Simms can do about that.

You are busy making up whole conversations to defend the inept Simms





You clearly know nothing about a Director of Football role. It will include:

- Getting the best head coach possible
- working alongside the head coach to get the best posible assistants
- Putting in place high quaity conditioning and medical systems
- Working alongside the coach to recruit players
- Creating a strong youth development system

If you think Salford have made significant improvements in those areas under Simms you really are clueless.

Just because wilkinson has time for Simms does not mean he is doing a good job. JW has just got it wrong. I am not bagging JW here. At the giants ken Davy (a similar guy to JW in many ways) made the huge error of appointing Garry schofield as head coach and let him and veivers sign loads of crap players on 2/3 year contracts. It stuffed the Giants for at least 3 years.

You and JW appear to think Simms is doing a decent job. Looking at salford from outside it looks like a shambles. A great shame.

Davy may have got it wrong initially with Schofield but he's got in right now. I think its unfair though to make comparisions between Salford and Huddersfield because financially the Giants are in a different league with Ken Davy's wealth behind them.

Knowbody at Salford is exempt from responibility or criticism but in my opinion Salford's shortcomings has been more to do with lack of finances than individuals. It goes far and beyond what a club spends on players contracts, it's the extra money bigger clubs have to beef up the backroom support staff, the youth development system, state of the art training facilities, equipment and supplies. Salford have never been close yet to maximum salary cap let alone having extra money in the pot to further support and enhance team performance off the field like others. I guess you could say were like a formula 1 team with only 3 people to change the tyres during a pit stop, with most of the money going on the car!

To give you an example at Manchester United on Sunday the backroom support staff also paraded the pitch (before the trophy presentation) and there was almost as many of them as players.



My hope is that the club will attract new investors at Barton who could help take the club to another level.

Fair enough i made an 'assumption'. did you not say though further up this thread about him applying for the job then turning us down? is that not the same thing?



Sorry i was unaware that you had wrote Simms' contract for him to sign for the club when he did and that these were what you started in the job specification.

Again this is what 'YOU' believe should be the role. this is not what you can confirm IS Steve Simms job.



Really! i'm clueless. Care to enlighten us all on what your qualifactaions are and how you are so much more 'Clued up' and in the know than the rest of us fans that gives you the right to deem us clueless.



haha, your joking right. Wilky has got it wrong. A man who has succsessfully started up and runs a big business, has run Salford rugby club for 25 years and has kept us afloat when so many others have struggled or gone, but on 1 person who you dont like, he is wrong. good one.



As theredshed as put, you are basing Salford against other clubs that are totally different to us. We are a small club with limited means. We have probably punched above our weight as a club for many years and it's a testament to people like Wilky and Simms (YES EVEN SIMMS) that we are where we are today with what we have at our disposal.

You judge simms on failures yet you have shown nothing other than your belief of how you think things are to back this up.

I personally dont know what Simms' job is and as a lot of people on here seem to be the same. However one person who does know in Wilky does believe that he is a decent job. So if Wilky thinks that then i put my trust in him rather than listen to people like yourself who base your argument on hearsay without any actual proof other than "I dont like the guy, it must be his fault".

Stephen Wild thought to have one more year in him by Huddersfield last year, you are having a laugh. Wild was 29 when he signed and he's been for me and many others our best player this year. Maybe the Giants messed up and thought the injury he came back from last year was a lot worse than it actually was? There is only 4 players in Superleague who have made more tackles than Wild this year. (The Giants haven't got one player in the top 25) Wild has made at least 120 tackles more than any Huddersfield player so far. Maybe he didn't fit in with the future plans at the Giants but he's been a great signing for us.

Adrian Morley is 34 and in the form of his life. Nearly half the Warrington squad are over 30 and they seem to be doing very well. And what about Keith Senior still playing Superleague at 35 until his recent injury? Yet we sign a 29 year old and he's too old. You obviously have some kind of a bitter grudge against our club or somebody at our club.

So are you familiar with Wild's wrist / arm problems that have plagued him for a good few years? I suspect not. Warrington and Leeds have deep squads and are 2 of the best clubs re conditioning and sports medicine. for example hodgson has been left out a few times to rest him - something that a smart coach woud do with Wild.

Wild was excellent for the Giants and i have little doubt he will do a decent job for another year. But 2012 and 13, I doubt it. While he has always been a high tackler his missed tackles rate has rocketed this season. SW is being run into the ground whie crocks like bailey and anderson have given you nothing.I am glad SW has big money through 2013

I am focussing on facts so the need to create fictional grudges is pointless. If simms has done a good job for you, you are easily pleased.

Just out of interest (Assuming you are involved with the Giants as you say you are) why are you so interested in Simms and Salford Reds?

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Nathan Brown Signs a new 12 month Deal to keep him at the Galpharm , Cue renewed interest from about half a dozen Aus Coaches in the Salford Job now that the plum job in SL gone..

This is the ' Official New coach Thread '
maybe we need another Simms is Clueless Thread and a 'Our Squad is small & Crocked Thread for the last 2 pages ..

where did i say that? Don't make stuff up.

Always liked salford. As a kid my dad was a mate of dai watkins so I saw a lot of games at the willows and the players seemed like stars to me. I also think JW is a real gentleman - like ken Davy - and deserves a bit of success.

I think Simms is 3rd rate and a real block on Salford's progress. The Wrigley announcement was unprofessional and i have seen nothing to suggest SS is doing a good job as Director of football. A good 'would be coach' will want to know about staff, sport science, youth development and playing personnel. Has SS laid quality foundations for a new coach?