I really could not give a monkeys what anyone on here thinks.

I know exactly what you mean.
Opinions are divided and emotions running high, yet we all crave the same result.
I can see both sides as I'm sure others can.
For years I've been following this club, hoping that the good times will return, whilst realistically sensing that another year of failure looms large.
People can only stomach so many false dawns, and will eventually call time.
'Original Red Devils seems to be losing faith, despite the fact that he is possibly some 25 years of torment behind me.
Ex Salf Uni is a WUM/P1ss Taker of the highest of order, and whilst I would hate to spend any time in his/her company for that reason, he/she is never far from the mark.
About a year I stated on here that as far as I could see this club is on the brink ..... It's make or break time, and whilst I truly hope we step up and at long last the fans have something to cheer wildly about, I honestly fear that we may actually never make the grade.
I do not wear red tinted speccies, I can clearly see the blatant clangers which the club offers up time and again, but I am certainly not any more capable/financially able than those in control, and as such I'll continue to roll with the punches.
Some Turkeyites do seem to have a superior attitude and others have a plain stupid one.
Let's pray for better times ahead at long, long last

For over 50yrs i have followed the reds,being dragged along as a young lad by my dad watching the likes of harry council,charlie bott etc,along came mr Snape,glory days,didnt need dragging anymore i flew there.Why?,Mr Snape bought quality players,a team you would die for now,and then what,a chairman who means well but as not got the money or the nous to take our club to the top,tarry is a joke,simms?god help us.I know its hard to get a marquee signing to come to us,but would you be itching to sign?Yes if it was my last chance saloon.I feel that in Matt Parrish saying it as it is we have a chance,we the fans as always,the board and our chairman, must,must back this man to the hilt,otherwise i feel its a lost cause.

he only asked for your starting line ups for next season...

NOT YOUR LIFE STORIES! haha

scrap the negative comments and look forward to next season.

In Matt we TRUST

Think everyone accepts that the new stadium is pretty much a last chance saloon for the club to get it right, however it is a new start for the fans as well, we can do a lot more than we think to help the club grow attendances etc.

This time last season peope we saying 'top 8' etc cos we had signed so called big name players. Didn't quite work out like that did it? Now everyone is complaining about a lack of signings meaning we will struggle next season. Who's to say it won't have the opposite effect. Big signings don't guarantee success, as we saw last season.

As for the sqaud, not sure why Davidson and Marriott are written off on here after one superleague apperance, unless anyone has been watching them regularly for the academy. Hopefully someone will show a bit of faith in Sneyd and give him 4-5 games although he will proabably have to wait for injuries. How many people have seen Gledhill play? James is not an ideal signing but I will wager that he goes better than Ste Nash does at Cas. Also think Adamson could go well under some decent coaching.

Am actually looking forward to next season. Much prefer watching us when we are the underdogs and being written off, rather than under a cloud of unrealistic expectations.

jack spencer going to north queensland cowboys?

Getting this thread back on topic.

I would guess MP doesn't even know where he's going to play the new guys yet. Moon's been playing centre, his agent makes out his best position is 13, but MP has been quoted as saying what good 6 Moon is. Then we have McPherson, I'm sure MP would rather add his size to the backrow, but since we're struggling for quality in the front row, it would be fair to guess he'll play prop.

I'd go for:

Patten - great attacker, he needs to improve his defence
Broughton - fastest man in SL, needs to sort out his defence
Gleeson - when fit he was our best centre last season
Nero/Moon - as long as Gibson isn't allowed near the shirt again I'll be happy!
Williams - Can't believe we've got him, I'm amazed someone criticised him in this thread

Holdsworth - let him lead the attack & give the captaincy to someone else
Smith - I'm not his biggest fan, he works well with DJ

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Godwin - one of our success stories, brings an urgency and enthusiasm the team really needs.
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McPherson - really hope we use his size on the second row.
Wild - works hard
Anderson - need his in attack, one of our best attackers but worst defenders.

Ashurst
Sneyd
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* the prop situation is MPs biggest headache

Can I just take this opportunity to point out that Lee Jewitt made more meter's per carry than Ray Cashmere last season (second only to Feka in that department

), I'm not sure he's as useless as some make out. Also the amount of time last season when I heard people having a dig at him for giving away penalties was laughable when in fact out of our regular pack (Cashmere, Neal, Palea'aesina, Adamson, Anderson, Wild, Sidlow, Boyle & Nero) he gave away the fewest with only 8! I'm happy for him to be in the 17 every week.

I'dust to echo Karlos13's comments on this thread, I think he's got it spot on.

I've been against jewitt in the past, but he is quick for a prop.

The only trouble is, he's not the stereotypical 6 foot 4 inch plus modern day prop.
On the flip side, he is powerful in both attack and defence.

Think the fact that Feka being our top metre maker per carry is a positive if he can get a bit fitter then he can do more carrys.

I rate lee Jewitt certainly grown up into a solid professional this season

1.patten
2.broughton
3.gleeson
4.nero
5.williams
6.moon
7.holdsworth
8.boyle
9.godwin
10.james
11.mcpherson
12.anderson
13.wild
subs
14.smith
15.feka
16.jewitt
17.ashurst

That's going to upset a few on here sini getting some bad press



Sini wasn't prolific but he was all effort and heart that's why he was loved so much on the terrace

Williams is a different kind of winger, really if you were to compare him to somebody from that time Darren Rodgers would be your man...

I wasn't actually comparing the two, but questioning how someone could criticise Williams. Whilst we're on the subject Williams is probably the first tough tackling winger we've had since Sini!

Williams does seem to link well with Gleeson, and they are one of our few plus points from last season. I really hope Moon can link with Broughton to a similar standard, if Moon plays in the centres.

Ps. As much as we all love Sini, it was for his heroic acts of strength and power. Not because he was the quickest winger to ever grace the Willows turf, rip. Sini was the only Salford player I saw run through Barrie McDermott.

I have a feeling Moon will be playing in the forwards mainly, especially since we are a bit short there atm. I'd like to see him at centre but he likes to see himself as a stand-off. Proper utility player by the sounds of it which can't be a bad thing in a side like ours.

I wouldn't be shocked to see Moon at thirteen either, but with patten performing a similar role in attack, to that of an old fashioned LF, it could well be a case of too many chiefs and not enough Indians.

It's MPs choice, obviously, but Broughton meeds to be given a good centre inside him. Always thought he worked well with Talau. When Talau was fit and could be bothered

Ha Ha What world are you living in mate. Lee jewitt wouldnt get in any other super league starting 17 hes s4ite .Im sick of the deluded people on this site who are obviously not rugby league minded or are very easily pleased , and to reply regarding williams, i think hes an average winger.Did you see the catalans game in the first 5 mins when williams was clear.A class winger would of finished that chance.Weve been used to having bad wingers in recent years we finally have two good wingers at last.But to rate him in the fielding/richards/offiah mode they are not in the same league..

So, you've been a forum member for less than 2 months and you are already sick of the deluded people on here ?
You are obviously a highly intelligent, very patient and tolerant person. I look forward to many more pearls of wisdom from you in the near future.
Please don't disappoint.

Dnt forget with our starting line up we have a couple of overseas spots left,it will be interesting to see who matt brings in and no I am not expecting slater and thurston!haha.if we could get two who were as hard working and committed as cashmere and Henry then I would be delighted.

Wakey, Cas, Crusaders and Quins would all have taken Jewitt last season.

As for Williams most of his tries for the Reds required finishing off, and he did the job well on something like 8/9 times. Rather than basing your opinion on what he got wrong, what about the several try saving tackles he put in during the second half against Cats. I occasionally wear red tinted glasses, but I would never state Broughton is the finished article. Danny Williams does the little things much much better, also he reads the game far better. We are Salford and need players that can hold their own defensively.

Ps. Of all the players you could have mentioned, why Offiah? Truly one of the laziest uncoordinated rugby players that has ever worn the GB shirt. I'll never forget the 1st time I saw him play live, couldn't even pick the ball up off the ground. Class with the ball, no better than Ste Tyrer in defence.

You must be winding me up.Williams in my opinion is an average super league winger.Theres better wingers about.Yeah he puts in some good performances but that doesnt make him a GREAT.Im happy with our wingmen but come on Offiah was a special finisher , the best the game as ever seen.
You cant even begin to mention offiah and williams in the same breath.Offiahs defence did improve as his career evolved but widnes/wigan had great backs around him in them days,hes scored 448 tries in his career not bad for a lazy uncoordinated GREAT.

Take them rose tinted specs off.

Offiah in salford red was ok, still had a bit of pace but I can name at least a handful of wingers who were better imo

Think your being a tad harsh on Williams my self, he was a breath of fresh air when he came to us last season and some of his try's did take some quality finishing. I also agree from what i have seen he is slightly better than Broughton defensively and certainly better under the high ball, I honestly feel if the two of them were in a top squad in super league they would be in the England squad take Gardner, Riley, Atkins, Leroy cudjoe for example all of them are w@nked over just because they play for top clubs, im sorry none of the above are better thank Broughton or Williams.

I'm going to leave the 'then and now' alone, because I shouldn't have started it and it's not really fair on the past players.

As for Williams, you're entitled to your opinions, but he doesn't panic in defence, which allows him to make the right decisions. OTRD is right about certain players getting into the England squad because of who they play for. There's no way Cudjoe offers as much in attack as Broughton and he has many of the same flaws to his game. Makinson looks a good prospect for Stains & Briscoe is quick/strong, but Ryan Hall is nothing more than solid. Whilst Charnley looks more like a centre.

I just hope someone at the club has the sense to get hunte coaching our 3/4 line and FB. Our first choice backs could be formidable next season, if they stay fit and get some quality coaching. After I've said all this, Williams will probably regress next season, in a similar manner to what Gibson did this season. Hopefully, he'll prove me wrong.

Im not being hard on williams im happy with our wingers but hes not as GREAT as your all making him out to be. If he was a class act other top teams would be knocking on the door just like Myler and Ratchford.and i cant agree with the fact you rate him better than Atkins and cudjoe. Cudjoe has set up some quality assists flipping balls out of the tackles and creating overlaps last season, we never see williams and broughton offloading out of the tackle in fact its very rare to see salford at all having a 2nd phase of play.and by the way josh charnley is an out and out winger he aint got the tactical nouse for a centre his hands arent good enough for a centre