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| his answer.... we aren't good enough to play any other way. We just don't have the talent. He said the only chance we have of winning games was to 'hang in there' and hope we get something
so why did we sign players from Oz who he already knew weren't good enough for Super League?
Seems a waste of money to me, money which could have been spent on british talent.
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| Don't expect to receive a frank answer,in the future, from our coach if he knows you are going to tell the world !
Next time he will just give you bland 'coach speak' and I don't blame him.
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| Quote ="LoyalFan"
Anyway... it seems that we are stuck with this brand of rugby for the long run... which leaves me not looking forward to a lot of the games we have ahead. I'd much rather see us 'go for it' and play some rugby as I have to say that I disagree with the reasons for playing like this. We are playing negative rugby and still losing... how about we try something else ?'"
Go watch any of the Celtic games for this...
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| McRae airs too much on the cautious side for me but you can't knock his overall thinking. We didn't complain too much when Harrison did the same and it got us to the play-offs.
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| Quote ="Bigpev"his answer.... we aren't good enough to play any other way. We just don't have the talent. He said the only chance we have of winning games was to 'hang in there' and hope we get something
so why did we sign players from Oz who he already knew weren't good enough for Super League?
Seems a waste of money to me, money which could have been spent on british talent.'"
Ask Steve Simms!
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| we played better in the second half when we moved the ball and look a far better team when we keep it alive i cant understand the coment that one out football is the only way we can play. we were a far better team in second half so if mcrae said that dont no what game he is watching we played very good rugby when we move the ball round the field. So it deont sound as though the rugby is not worth watchin. I thought mcrae said this was a good enough side to reach playoffs saying what he said to you if true he should be made to eat is words.
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| Quote ="GanEden"Ask Steve Simms!'"
Why? He doesn't decide what players we buy.
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| Quote ="neil72"we played better in the second half when we moved the ball and look a far better team when we keep it alive ... we were a far better team in second half'"
Whilst I don't wholly disagree with you, the scoreboard didn't seem to reflect that?
RL is a results-driven business, and McRae will coach his team to do whatever he thinks will bring us the best results. At present, he feels that is a safer, percentage game.
I have to say I tend to agree - I'd love to see us throw it about like Saints but we're simply not good enough at present. We've recruited the best players that our budget and status will allow, and if these players start throwing it around we'll end up like Celtic are at present.
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| Quote ="Fungus The Muffin Man"Why? He doesn't decide what players we buy.'"
I think he has a say.
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| Quote ="GanEden"Ask Steve Simms!'"
Since Simms has been at the club, he only signed one class player and that is dunemann(i forgot how to spell it haha)
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| Quote ="RED FLAG RISING"Since Simms has been at the club, he only signed one class player and that is dunemann(i forgot how to spell it haha)
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I wouldnt really call him class to be honest.
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| Quote ="cherrydevil"I wouldnt really call him class to be honest.'"
OK A GOOD PLAYER WHO GOT IN THE LEEDS TEAM THEN CAME TO SALFORD AND HELPED US TO PLAY OFFS
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| we dont get the crowds,therefore dont have the money available for "bettet players" more success bigger crowds,.........simple.
As for building a team around Myler,Ratchford,Turner,brilliant.
We need to build but if we dont they will go to clubs that will,sad but a fact,if we dont build now it shows a complete lack of ambition and an end to all the talk of stadium etc....
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| I totally appreciated the honesty coming from McRae... and the fact that during a busy day he took time out to talk to me about my concerns. I do think he's an honest guy and what he said to me, he'd probably say to everyone else including the press... so I don't feel I'm broadcasting anything he wouldn't broadcast himself. He's a clever man and would know I'd talk to people about his answers. He is paid to try and win games his way, and I have to respect that. After all... he's the qualified coach... not me. I did give him back my honest thoughts too and felt he was giving a disservice to the talent we have in the team as we don't look too bad when we decide to play a bit.
My worry is the good young players we have in the side will sooner or later become frustrated with the brand of rugby we are playing and perhaps seek to move somewhere where they can use the talent they have. The five drives method works for exit sets and perhaps laying a platform to build on... but I feel we should use it for that purpose... and then try to play a little.... after all... people outside Salford are talking about the young talent we have... surely not based on negative rugby.
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| We bought the best we could - and I feel we did right well. It'll take a season for Cashmere and Smith to come into their own. Swain and Henry have shown even faster progress.
Sorry I do not want a Nescafe side.
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| To be honest I don't think McRae is very open to the fans. Having heard him on a number of occassions at FR meetings he is more of a politican than Harrison was. he has a tendancy to talk us down in public but think he expects more from the players in private.
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| LF, this is Mcrae's game get into an arm wrestle and see who blinks 1st.
Its not the most exciting rugby league to watch and if we go more than lets say 10 points behind in a game some say it might as well be over.
I think we wouldnt have won the games we did this season without playing that style of rugby, our completion rates must be high our miss tackles were low and and when the chance game then the oppostion pushed the pass we take advantage.
The main differences between the Harrison promotion/playoff team and this one is the Harrison team was a bit older and wiser than this one, it was physically fitter (which is an advantage when in a war of endurance), a bit clever (with Clinch and Dunnerman) and the defence was outstanding.
The thing with Mcrae team now is mentally there is no fear, the young players have the ability physically and mentally to take the team to the next level when in previous teams the youth have only reached 1st team level not lifted it to the next level.
It might sound mental but i can see Mcrae leading us to wembley this year and possibly a low to mid table finish, it wont be pretty to watch but they will grind result out.
If we get to another semi final in the CC with 10 to go can you see this team winnin it? i can in a heart beat, the mix of youthful exerberance, skill beyound they years and the season pro's who's job is to protect them when needed and give them a platform to perform on sometimes would get us over the line this time.
Thats why Mcrae is a winner, he'll calculate everything and get the result.
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| Quote ="Fungus The Muffin Man"Why? He doesn't decide what players we buy.'" You could have fooled me.
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| Quote ="GanEden"You could have fooled me.'"
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| I was at Murrayfield and every team plays the 5 drives, but why take off your best forward, who is tearing the opposition to bits - Leuluai - just for the sake of rotation??? Surely the arm wrestle is all about seeking out the weak links and/or who is making yards. To me Leuluai was taking Quins apart then was subbed...to the god of interchange! However, how good did Ratchford look? I think Myler and Ratchford need to play more together to develop their relationship and then you'll see some results!
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| 2 things fitness ...we dont have it ..mcrea not a great coach never was never will be...on the player front with regard to importing Oz players look at the NSW cup & QLD cup teams a lot of hungary players around with talent that wont cost the earth if we cant afford the top NRL players there is a lot of talent around we just have to look ..
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| i wouldnt put your head or hands any where near the players other wise you'll find out how hungry they are for success liable to bit them off.....
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| As for a wrestle - Sunday is close enough to an anniversary of us sacking a coach who favoured forward play - he's now at Batley so we will know if a wrestle can be won.
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| Quote ="vandman"2 things fitness ...we dont have it ..mcrea not a great coach never was never will be...on the player front with regard to importing Oz players look at the NSW cup & QLD cup teams a lot of hungary players around with talent that wont cost the earth if we cant afford the top NRL players there is a lot of talent around we just have to look ..'"
These young players wont get a work permit but there is plenty of talent to nurture in the lower divisions.
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| Quote ="Red Willow"To be honest I don't think McRae is very open to the fans. Having heard him on a number of occassions at FR meetings he is more of a politican than Harrison was. he has a tendancy to talk us down in public but think he expects more from the players in private.'"
I totally agree, on giving interviews it sounds as though he is reading it from a script just like a politician, maybe he should join salford council, the stadium might get ....oh sorry getting carried away that sounds stupid the staidum would never get built if he was a councillor
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