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| Pev I think the main sticking point IMO is that people are saying he should go now based on the teams prior performance and their wish for him to be removed from the coaching post. How many players do with have "go off sick" when injured for months on end and you don't hear the same comments. The guy has only been off a month or so.
JW is known for his loyalty. SM has become ill due to the demands of the job and somewhat from the disgusting behaviour of some of our fans. I'm glad JW isn't sticking the boot in and is remaining loyal to SM in this situation.
Saying that once he's well enough get him sacked
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| Quote ="Bigpev"Do you work in the public sector where you get paid sick pay?
A lot of people in the private sector (which Salford RLFC are) only pay SSP and don't have the luxury of paying somebody who is sick. So after a while the person will have a few chats with a manager and before long find they are not fit for work and so are then finished by their employer. I know the system stinks but that is the real world out there, Civil service would be 6 months full pay then 6 months half pay, but they will encourage you to retire on ill-health and with a pension.
I would assume Shaun will, if he returns put on other duties, which could be anything really, now if the club are really bad they could have him working with the groundsmen or just send him out watching other teams before we are due to play them, so a sort of technical coach, until his contract expires.'"
I said exactly this to one of the contract managers at work as soon as McRea went on sick leave, ive seen this happen so many times in the industry i work in, imo its the only way McRea can get out of the Willows because Salford wouldn't have paid him off thats for sure.
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| Quote ="RED LEAGUE"I said exactly this to one of the contract managers at work as soon as McRea went on sick leave, ive seen this happen so many times in the industry i work in, imo its the only way McRea can get out of the Willows because Salford wouldn't have paid him off thats for sure.'"
You HAVE to be a Security guard.
You can't even spell the poor blokes name right.
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| Quote ="PHIPPS"You HAVE to be a Security guard.
You can't even spell the poor blokes name right.
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Matey if your even employed i guarante i double your yearly salary. I'm a site manager for a big construction company, previously a bricklayer, spelling isn't my strong point but how does that determine what job i do you CLOWN.
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| Quote ="PHIPPS"Wow.
You are a compassionate bloke aren't you.
I doubt whether you actually have a job but just supposing you did and you got ill and was forced to go on the sick would you resign because some diickhead said you should and then have the added burden and stress of trying to find another job once you recovered?
Thought not.'"
Pal you have dropped in on a thread and responded with limited knowledge of the situation. If you knew what I know and others you may have a completely different opinion on the matter. But what I do know isn't for this forum.
The compassion I have right now is first and foremost with Salford City Reds.
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| [iI hope Mr McRae gets well soon of course we all do if were honest!
His contract is up at the end of this season and I for one don't expect to see Shaun in charge next season but that does not mean to say he will no longer be at the club.
I spoke to a guy only last week and he said he had seen a chap that looked very much like Bomber in Egypt recently but he did not go up and ask him to make sure.
Anyway since his absense the Reds have done OK and at the end of the day it's the club that matters and not one person.
Plus we need to get the franchise nod in July and then we can move to Barton next season knowing we will be in the top flight for at least another three years, and then anything is possible..
COME ON SALFORD CITY REDS....
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| Quote ="theredshed"Pal you have dropped in on a thread and responded with limited knowledge of the situation. [uIf you knew what I know and others you may have a completely different opinion on the matter. But what I do know isn't for this forum.[/u
The compassion I have right now is first and foremost with Salford City Reds.'"
Oh god.
Yet ANOTHER poster on the internet that claims to have all the insider info on the low downs and secret stuff behind the scenes
Let me guess.
Daniel Holdsworth once knew someone called Steven and Iafeta Paleaaesina once owned a dog called Bonzo?
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| note to BP
"Civil service would be 6 months full pay then 6 months half pay, but they will encourage you to retire on ill-health and with a pension."
How I "love" mail readers. I cannot comment on this board as this is monitored but chat to me some time at a game. Very very inaccurate.
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| We have no idea what is really going on with the situation, whether SM is really that ill, whether the Club are happy for him to take that route out for the rest of the year, etc.
As long as he is kept away from the first XIII until his contract expires, who cares?
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| Quote ="Hillbilly_Red"note to BP
"Civil service would be 6 months full pay then 6 months half pay, but they will encourage you to retire on ill-health and with a pension."
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HR, which bit of BP's quote is inactivate. I've just done 4 years in the region's largest LA and AFAIK the "6 months full pay/half pay is correct" I worked in a team which had 3 staff members on long-term sick, a friend of mine being one of them. IIRC he was off work for 6 months on full pay. Prior to the 6 months elapsing he received a letter notifying him that he would drop to half pay. Guess what? He then made it into work for a couple of days and promptly went back on the sick and went back on full sick pay. Pretty sure the other 2 long-termers did exactly the same as well.
It's amazing how some people miraculously recover when you tell them their pay is being cut
It's amazing
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Sorry, end of that post went a bit t1ts up as bl00dy awkward posting from iPhone!
Ps. I'm not a Daily Mail reader either!
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| After 'completing' his six month on full pay he can not come back to work for a couple of days and it all start again, as full pay sick leave. He would receive half pay for a further six months. I have to agree with your premise that it is still a system widely open to abuse but your point is factually incorrect mate.
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| Quote ="Hillbilly_Red"note to BP
"Civil service would be 6 months full pay then 6 months half pay, but they will encourage you to retire on ill-health and with a pension."
How I "love" mail readers. I cannot comment on this board as this is monitored but chat to me some time at a game. Very very inaccurate.'"
only going off my time there upto the mid 90's
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| Quote ="SteveRed"After 'completing' his six month on full pay he can not come back to work for a couple of days and it all start again, as full pay sick leave. He would receive half pay for a further six months. I have to agree with your premise that it is still a system widely open to abuse but your point is factually incorrect mate.'"
I know that I didn't say he could.
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| Not you Pev, the other lad (SalfordSlim).
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| Quote ="Bigpev"I know that I didn't say he could.'"
Think that was in response to me BP. Actually I've just checked with my mate & I mustn't had wires crossed as he confirmed he went onto half pay. He reckons that previously people did get round the ruling by popping back into work for a couple of days but the rules were changed as people were abusing the system. Therefore, I apologise for my inaccuracies.
In my defence I did find that HR "moved the goalposts" to suit whilst I worked for the Council so I'm pleading mitigation!
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| Quote ="SalfordSlim"
In my defence I did find that HR "moved the goalposts" to suit whilst I worked for the Council so I'm pleading mitigation!
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That's HR as in Human Resources and not HillbillyRed before anyone points it out!
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| No problem mate. I know because I had my Back broken at work!
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| didn't it become a rolling period over so many years I think 3 but not sure, mind you when I worked for a certain bank, I went in one day said my wrist felt sore (no giggling at the back) and was promply sent home on full pay for 7 months until they could be certain I didn't have RSI. They had just been caned for £3m in court costs appealing the award of £60,000 to 5 staff with RSI, cheaper to have paid, plus it didn't appear on my sick record not that i had one either, they even sent me on an all expenses paid training trip to London.
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| todays Mirror says Sean is going to talk to Reds bosses about his future this week !!!
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| Quote ="filesy"todays Mirror says Sean is going to talk to Reds bosses about his future this week !!!'"
Yes and his agent David Howes says that he wants to resume his job at the Willows. It also says despite another sick note for a further month it doesn't mean he won't be back sooner and he wants to take charge of the team again.
Considering the stress it mentions in the newspaper do you think it's wise for him to step back into a high pressure job? Thoughts???
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| Quote ="theredshed"Thoughts???'"
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| If he thought the abuse he got previously was bad, he'll be in for a shock if he takes the team over again.
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| Especially if that team starts losing!
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