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| Quote ="Stanley30"But I don't understand how do you know these things aren't taking place? its not like this info is going to make the papers?
I have been resonably pleased how much change there has been in the club, its turned the corner and we just need players now'"
My comments were based on things I consider measureable such as personnel appointments (non football side), season ticket incentives for remaining fixtures, attendances, number of corporate matchday diners, new sponsors, club shop merchandise, online retailing and the website etc.
For instance we are still advertising last year's shirt on the club website and if you click on a product it takes you to some site called go magenta advertising online retail stores.
There was many supporters quick to criticise the previous regime but are we currently any better in these kind of area’s than we were before? It seems to me it’s of much less importance to some now that we have a new owner promising to dig deep in his pockets with promises of success.
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| There will always be something to complain about. Rome wasn't built in a day! or 3 months for that matter!
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| Quote ="Stanley30"There will always be something to complain about. Rome wasn't built in a day! or 3 months for that matter!'"
I am not complaining Stanley I'm just pointing out that in 4 months I don't think a lot has changed on the administration side. There are some blowing smoke up the Docs ar$e saying how professional it is now but lets see some results on and off the field before we start throwing around the compliments.
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| Quote ="theredshed"Quote ="Stanley30"There will always be something to complain about. Rome wasn't built in a day! or 3 months for that matter!'"
I am not complaining Stanley I'm just pointing out that in 4 months I don't think a lot has changed on the administration side. There are some blowing smoke up the Docs ar$e saying how professional it is now but lets see some results on and off the field before we start throwing around the compliments.'"
Or just sit back and enjoy the ride. I just thank god we have a team and am enjoying it! The Dr is a succesful man who knows what he wants and I am sure has more knowledge on how to run a business than you or I. TBH I don't care about the backroom as long as I can get in a match and watch rugby who cares about the rest, its only a game FFS
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| Quote ="Stanley30"Or just sit back and enjoy the ride. I just thank god we have a team and am enjoying it! The Dr is a succesful man who knows what he wants and I am sure has more knowledge on how to run a business than you or I. TBH I don't care about the backroom as long as I can get in a match and watch rugby who cares about the rest, its only a game FFS'"
Forgive me Stanley but I thought we were discussing a topic relating to our departing Chief Executive Ed Farish. If you have no cares about the 'non playing side' why bother to make several posts on the subject?
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| Quote ="Stanley30"Or just sit back and enjoy the ride. I just thank god we have a team and am enjoying it! The Dr is a succesful man who knows what he wants and I am sure has more knowledge on how to run a business than you or I. TBH I don't care about the backroom as long as I can get in a match and watch rugby who cares about the rest, its only a game FFS'"
Everyone is delighted we've got a team and most of us are enjoying the ride but that doesn't mean we can't sort things out behind the scenes, clearly Koukash feels the same or he wouldn't have moved Ed Farish on. We know it's going to take time but RedShed is right to point out nothing has changed behind the scenes, doesn't necessarily mean he is complaining about it.
Rome wasn't built in a day but I'm sure that while it was being built they had an updated website that wasn't offering corporate hospitality for the previous year.
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| Quote ="middleman"The Dr , told the forever reds meeting on Monday , along with some info on restructuring , and named his replacement and where he worked previously . I guess they will release the info when they think it's appropriate. I wish Farish all the best for the future, came across as a approachable and knowledgeable .
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I also wish him well.At the last meeting I considered him very intelligent and a keen rugby league fan.He was behind the eight ball from the start with a huge amount of priorities and only 24 hours in a day.
I just wonder if this impacts on the potential warm-weather training and seeing how the youth academy to first team coaching is undertaken etc.I also believe the Gold Coast Titans had a new academy complex built.
I am unsure if the reluctance to inform the MEN of the identity of the new 'business leader' is due to the chod written in that paper yesterday,where they regurgitated the old story,or the named person has still not left his previous position.
( Great pity because I have found a link concerning a development around a southern based sports club valued at mega-millions involving the named person )
Wonder if setting a new record is appealing to the club.Just to upset the usual suspects go for a 'King Koukash'night on the 9th August.Already tried by the dual reg club of the opponents
[url=http://www.hunslethawks.co.uk/news-410-its-world-record-attempt-time-.htmlWhat Do You Reckon ?[/url
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| If somebody is coming in for Farish,where does this leave the Brothers, a they still with us.
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| Quote ="Stanley30"There will always be something to complain about. Rome wasn't built in a day! or 3 months for that matter!'"
It's 5 months since Koukash took over.
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| Quote ="Marshy1"It's 5 months since Koukash took over.'"
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| Quote ="Wayward Fan"I was commenting more on the suggestion that what was said publicly should be kept private from fans that don't happen to attend these meetings. Put simply, if this is, as you say, an open and public forum, then everything that's said should be open to public scrutiny.'"
I think there's a difference between what can be said in a room of like minded people who can fully see the context in which things are said and are all on your side, and bits of the same comments going online to be picked up and misinterpreted by press/opposition fans/players/officials.
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| Quote ="Iain"I think there's a difference between what can be said in a room of like minded people who can fully see the context in which things are said and are all on your side, and bits of the same comments going online to be picked up and misinterpreted by press/opposition fans/players/officials.'"
Still waiting for Wayward fan to acknowledge that he took my post out of context and decided to make an unjust accusation.
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| Quote ="bandgeekmafia78"How do you become involved in the Forever Reds meetings?'"
I'd guess by attending them. Call it a hunch.
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| There wasn't really any need for the sarcastic reply, was there?
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| Quote ="Chico"Anyone can go mate, and anyone can be a member. It's a democratic cooperative.'"
Cheers Chico. I didn't realise that anyone could attend these meetings. Looking forward to going.
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| Quote ="bandgeekmafia78"There wasn't really any need for the sarcastic reply, was there?'"
Well, y'know, I thought it was a fairly obvious answer. It's always stated that the meetings are public. There's plenty of info around on how to join. I'm amazed that people still seem to consider everything FR does as a mystic inner circle.
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| Quote ="TheButcher"You've wet my appetite now, MM.
I think it wise to keep these things under wraps on here. How did you feel coming out of the meeting? Did you feel positive or apprehensive? I know we usually get a write-up off Shirl for those that couldn't attend, but if it was sensitive stuff I see why this has not happened.'"
I don't think I took your post out of context, there's a clear implication that some info should be withheld.
Ultimately, anything that the doctor wants to keep out of the public domain needs to be kept completely under wraps.
Anyway, it's a moot point as Shirley appears to have posted most of the key info anyway.
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| Quote ="GT"Well, y'know, I thought it was a fairly obvious answer. It's always stated that the meetings are public. There's plenty of info around on how to join. I'm amazed that people still seem to consider everything FR does as a mystic inner circle.'"
Correct me if I'm wrong but for certain aspects of the Forever Reds you do need to be a member,the AGM for example.
Therefore it isn't open to everyone and therefore it was a valid question.
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| Quote ="Wayward Fan"I don't think I took your post out of context, there's a clear implication that some info should be withheld.
Ultimately, anything that the doctor wants to keep out of the public domain needs to be kept completely under wraps.
Anyway, it's a moot point as Shirley appears to have posted most of the key info anyway.'"
You don't seem to get it. Did you read my reply to you on page 2?
I'm not repeating myself again. I poorly worded it, I'll give you that, but others on here have reiterated exactly what I was getting at, including myself. If you continue to take it out of context, as above, after me clarifying what I meant, does that mean you've ignored my clarification in favour of saying sorry for jumping the gun? Maybe you didn't read my clarification. I've admitted I was wrong with my first post, at least in how it came across. It's all a bit silly as I have no affiliation with FR or anyone in it. So how you can stick by your original claim is just a little baffling.
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| Quote ="TheButcher"You don't seem to get it. Did you read my reply to you on page 2?
I'm not repeating myself again. I poorly worded it, I'll give you that, but others on here have reiterated exactly what I was getting at, including myself. If you continue to take it out of context, as above, after me clarifying what I meant, does that mean you've ignored my clarification in favour of saying sorry for jumping the gun? Maybe you didn't read my clarification. I've admitted I was wrong with my first post, at least in how it came across. It's all a bit silly as I have no affiliation with FR or anyone in it. So how you can stick by your original claim is just a little baffling.
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I'm not ignoring your clarification, but you've acknowledged yourself that your initial post was poorly worded. So why would I need to apologise?
My reply to your initial (poorly worded) post was valid in that context but I'm happy to accept that you misrepresented yourself.
Anyway, it's been cleared up now so let's not fall out over semantics.
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| Quote ="theredshed"a046.gif I'm here in peace and I'd like to make a suggestion. Can someone pm Wayward and bring her/him up to speed? I'd do it myself but I haven't a clue what the doctor said either.'"
It's not a problem; Shirley has already shared the key points on another thread.
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| Quote ="Wayward Fan"I'm not ignoring your clarification, but you've acknowledged yourself that your initial post was poorly worded. So why would I need to apologise?
My reply to your initial (poorly worded) post was valid in that context but I'm happy to accept that you misrepresented yourself.
Anyway, it's been cleared up now so let's not fall out over semantics.'"
Nice of you to be so humble in allowing that...
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