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| Quote ="programmethrower"I see DJ kicking let us down once again with 50%. Whilst Sneyd nets 7 from 8 the U20, when will the youngsters be given their chance as we have nothing play for?'"
I didn't go today expecting a thumping but once again the scoreline shows Salford losing out because of the goals. Last season was the same so when will the powers at be see that investing in a quality goal kicker is key. In the past you could say that we aren't expected to score the tries for goals to matter but if the clubs aim is to be top 8 in a few years we need someone who can kick from all over the park on a regular basis. All big clubs have quality kickers who produce week in week out and under pressure, so why oh why haven't we sorted something out. If Sneyd is to be the man then he needs to be tested on the bigger scene rather than just U20's, otherwise lets get something sorted out for next season.
See if Steve Blakeley will come out of retirement
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| Quote ="Early Bath"Get away - 14 of the 17 were/are regular players in the Wire squad - Salford very unlucky today - 3 tries disallowed - poor kicking and as usual the penalty count 3-10 I believe.'"
I take it you never went the game
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| Quote ="Early Bath"Get away - 14 of the 17 were/are regular players in the Wire squad - Salford very unlucky today - 3 tries disallowed - poor kicking and as usual the penalty count 3-10 I believe.'"
you fail to admit we rested nearly all our 1st team for next week, yes it nearly came back to bite us, but sorry you played our under20's squad with a few 1st teamers today!
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When everyone is fit and on form the ones in blue are the likely 17
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| Quote ="Reds1982"I didn't go today expecting a thumping but once again the scoreline shows Salford losing out because of the goals. Last season was the same so when will the powers at be see that investing in a quality goal kicker is key. In the past you could say that we aren't expected to score the tries for goals to matter but if the clubs aim is to be top 8 in a few years we need someone who can kick from all over the park on a regular basis. All big clubs have quality kickers who produce week in week out and under pressure, so why oh why haven't we sorted something out. If Sneyd is to be the man then he needs to be tested on the bigger scene rather than just U20's, otherwise lets get something sorted out for next season.
See if Steve Blakeley will come out of retirement
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I'm sure the club invested in a goal kicking coach a few seasons back, under Karl Harrison I think although I may be wrong , maybe this is what DJ needs, he should be on remedial goal kicks. Danny Williams is as of yet to sign a contract and there is a young lad from Saints that is known to kick a goal or two and he's not getting a look in for them at the minute but his defense is non existent! When has that ever stopped Salford signing player of that ilk before?
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"Chris Riley
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When everyone is fit and on form the ones in blue are the likely 17'"
J Monaghan? I'm not trying to clutch straws and suggest that Wire were not massively understrength, just genuinely thought he was a regular starter.
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| There isn't many of those who developed through your academy,is there ? (Highlighted )
How many internationals did Warrington have representing them,yesterday ?
Salford were missing - Ben Gledhill,Shannan McPherson,Iafeta Palea'asina,Vinnie Anderson,Sean Gleeson and Chris Nero.
It matters more to a smaller squad when the better players are missing.
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| Heh we are not allowed to make excuses like that!
Overall Wires were second best and fortunate on Sunday.
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| Quote ="Early Bath"Get away - 14 of the 17 were/are regular players in the Wire squad - Salford very unlucky today - 3 tries disallowed - poor kicking and as usual the penalty count 3-10 I believe.'"
Utilising your logic would imply we are three down from our usual 17.
Hodgson, Bridge, Briers, Myler, Mick Monaghan, Morley, Westwood.
All those listed start in the first thirteen.
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| Quote ="Early Bath"Heh we are not allowed to make excuses like that!
Overall Wires were second best and fortunate on Sunday.'"
Salford passed and moved the ball out well but with no cutting edge
defence wins matches and our young players stuck to there game plan
Granted you scored two late try's which to be honest gave you a glimmer of hope but you dont win games on hope
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| Quote ="scoot"Paul 2812
I thought Warrington's youth policy was called Salford'"
You thought wrong.
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| Quote ="Iain"J Monaghan? I'm not trying to clutch straws and suggest that Wire were not massively understrength, just genuinely thought he was a regular starter.'"
Yes, missed that
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| Quote ="SCR-SeaDiver"There isn't many of those who developed through your academy,is there ? (Highlighted )
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Warrington fielded 10 players yesterday who are products of their academy setup. Wood, Dwyer, Harrison, McCarthy, Currie, Cooper, O'Brien, Blythe, Williams and Riley to which 4 of these ( Highlighted )feature regular in their 17 man squad.
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| Quote ="Dantes Inferno"Warrington fielded 10 players yesterday who are products of their academy setup. Wood, Dwyer, Harrison, McCarthy, Currie, Cooper, O'Brien, Blythe, Williams and Riley to which 4 of these ( Highlighted )feature regular in their 17 man squad.'"
They are to be congratulated on that;and for having supporters who do not spend their time criticising the club
but thanking their investors.
We do not seem to be too far away on the playing side despite everything being disgraceful.
Would I be at fault for suggesting that as everything in their garden is ever so rosy they should sell out every home game in their nice stadium and having scraped to victory against a side who self-destruct,their supporters and BBC reporters could show just a little grace in victory ? After all,without being an expert in these matters,those players who did not emerge from their academy would probably have cost more than the entire Salford squad.
There does appear to have been some money spent on [url=http://www.warringtonwolves.org/academytheir Academy[/url and probably a tidy sum spent on their pre-season training with the Emirates tour to Australia.
You should have been there - we weren't too far behind,on the pitch.
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| Sadly I think yesterday just highlighted our lack of squad depth. Live SCR-SeaDiver says we were also missing key players (and lost Godwin early on) but we appear to have very little in way of replacements. However is it time to take a leaf out of Warrington's book from yesterday and start to field more youngsters, the only way these kids are going to improve is to be given a shot in the first team. We're highly unlikely to finish in the top 8 and we're out of the cup, so all in all there's not an awful lot for us to play for other than pride. Lets now take this chance to blood the lads maybe one or two one week and then alternate for the next. Ours 20's are clearly a talented bunch but will they get to show that on the big stage, if not now, when?
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| Totally agree and for me - again - I would like to see DJ @ 13 with young Theo being given a chance. Sneyd too if only for his kicking game.
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| I'd like to see that U20's get a bit of a run for the remainder of the season, especially Sneyd and Owen who are more than capable. I think it may be a season or two too soon for young Theo but only Hunte can say for certain. Whatever happened to Callum Marriott and Alex Davidson (apologies if I got it wrong there) the two forwards who had a run out last season against Hull I think it was. They more than held their own from what I remember. Like a few have already said, not much to play for now so lets give them a run out and see how they fair.
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| Quote ="scoot"Paul 2812
I thought Warrington's youth policy was called Salford'"
They have got one player in their squad who came through our academy ain't they, plus one player who is Salford based?
Warrington are in a position where they can blood youngsters as they have a strong squad and a successful team. I'm sure our academy lads will be given the opportunity when the time is ready.
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| Quote ="SCR-SeaDiver"They are to be congratulated on that;and for having supporters who do not spend their time criticising the club
but thanking their investors.
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You have got to be one of the most boring posters on this forum behind Michigan Red. Why would their supporters criticise the club and their investors when they get top 4 finishes every year topped off with numerous Wembley appearances and not only that, they're probably witnessing the best ever Rugby League they've ever seen at Warrington. '"
Quote ="SCR-SeaDiver"We do not seem to be too far away on the playing side despite everything being disgraceful.'"
I can't believe i'm actually answering you. If they fielded their strongest 17 we'd be looking at a cricket score matey.
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| Quote ="Bigpev"and somehow you are still playing within the salary cap?'"
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| Quote ="right said father ted"They have got one player in their squad who came through our academy ain't they, plus one player who is Salford based?'"
Beat me to it. Where we take your talented players who have long and successful careers infront of them who have aspirations to win trophies, your like our OAP rest-home for our older players who struggle with injuries.... Vinnie Anderson, Rob Parker.
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| Quote ="Paul2812"Beat me to it. Where we take your talented players who have long and successful careers infront of them who have aspirations to win trophies, your like our OAP rest-home for our older players who struggle with injuries.... Vinnie Anderson, Rob Parker.'"
Looking forward to Tony Smith coming out with the usual 'too many teams in superleague' comment sometime soon, then poaching the best players from the smaller clubs in the off season therefore making the competition even weaker.
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| Quote ="Karlos13"Looking forward to Tony Smith coming out with the usual 'too many teams in superleague' comment sometime soon, then poaching the best players from the smaller clubs in the off season therefore making the competition even weaker.
'" and your telling me that you'd be upset if salford were in a position to be able to do the same...?
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| Quote ="Dantes Inferno"You have got to be one of the most boring posters on this forum . Why would their supporters criticise the club and their investors when they get top 4 finishes every year topped off with numerous Wembley appearances and not only that, they're probably witnessing the best ever Rugby League they've ever seen at Warrington.
I can't believe i'm actually answering you. If they fielded their strongest 17 we'd be looking at a cricket score matey.
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But it wasn't always so - me being boring or Warrington being a team reaching Wembley numerous times.Nor do I think I witnessed the best rugby league ever seen,on Sunday.
Moran started investing in 2003.In 2008,Cullen who had been coach before Moran arrived endured abuse from those Wire followers,and sit-down protests.All this despite the investment.All this before the Academy started producing.All this after not a great deal since reaching Wembley in 1990 and losing and then reaching Wembley in 2009 after averaging attendances of 8,000 - (if Wikipedia is to be believed.)
Not quite Utopia,then.
Oh,and I believe they did field their strongest side - barring those injured,and they rested Briers.Just as we fielded our best side.It wasn't a cricket score,was it ?
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