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| Quote ="billybradshawsmum"Evalds was the pivot with Theo in the Academy initially, he went to fullback to cover injury if I'm not mistaken, & preffered the f/b spot so stayed there, so there is no reason he can't play in the halves with Theo & BJB to fullback'"
Fair enough SB - I just see Evalds now in another role
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| Didn't Hauraki play in the halves at Castleford?
Evalds is much to potent a weapon not be playing at the back and I just don't see BJB as a viable/reliable option.
Evalds.
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Walton/MCB.
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Hauraki.
Fages.
Has MCB ever played either in the halves or at full back, at the back you'd think he has the elusive running and speed too cause problems, just not sure on the positional side of things.
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| Quote ="Early Bath"So who is your second pivot? Without one the backs wont see the ball. Fages cant do it on his own'"
My second pivot would be Evalds, hence the reshuffle in moving him to 6. As BBM says, he played a lot of his academy RL in the halves co-incidentally alongside Theo. We just cant go into another game with one half-back, it's ridiculous at this level.
MR - how can you not see BJB as a viable option at FB for one game? The lad is absolute mustard. Didn't have his best game against Huddersfield, but he's been rushed back sooner than he should have been. He'll be better for that game and the two weeks off by the time the Warrington game comes around. MCB should definitely not be anywhere near the halves or full-back.
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"
MR - how can you not see BJB as a viable option at FB for one game?'"
Forgive me if I'm exaggerating on this but BJB has been terrible under the high ball. Don't get me wrong I like the lad as a player but it seems he drops more than he catches, especially for a lad of his size.
I'm happy for someone to prove me wrong btw but I'm pretty sure Stef will be bombing him to death given the opportunity.
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| Quote ="SaleSlim"Forgive me if I'm exaggerating on this but BJB has been terrible under the high ball. Don't get me wrong I like the lad as a player but it seems he drops more than he catches, especially for a lad of his size.
I'm happy for someone to prove me wrong btw but I'm pretty sure Stef will be bombing him to death given the opportunity.'"
This is what I think, winger or at a push centre for me, MCB and Johnson are just about the two quickest wingers in SL, BJB more than has the size for centre. It's nice though that even with this kind of injury level we have 3 wingers of the quality we have.
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| Selective memories here perhaps. Are we forgetting all of Evalds dropped bombs too? BJB has made 15 errors this season, Evalds has made 12 and played a game less. There really isn't much between them both, in defence and attack.
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"Selective memories here perhaps. Are we forgetting all of Evalds dropped bombs too? BJB has made 15 errors this season, Evalds has made 12 and played a game less. There really isn't much between them both, in defence and attack.'"
I'm really not trying to have a dig at BJB and I can appreciate Evalds isn't infallible. However, I'd argue that Niall's errors have often come from more difficult kicks, 50/50 challenges with a bigger guy etc. BJB does seem to make a hash of some fairly straight forward kicks and the attempt which he volleyed on Friday which led to Hudds 3rd (?) try was pretty woeful. IMO, Evalds more than punches above his weight/height under the high ball.... I'd suggest the opposite with BJB.
But like I said I really like BJB, I just think he needs serious work on that part of his game as he's a big lad and could be as deadly as a Joel Monaghan/Ryan Hall, certainly from an attacking point of view with kicks.
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"Selective memories here perhaps. Are we forgetting all of Evalds dropped bombs too? BJB has made 15 errors this season, Evalds has made 12 and played a game less. There really isn't much between them both, in defence and attack.'"
Surely though at full back Evalds is targeted more with tricky high balls, not having a go at either as both even with every player in the squad fully fit would be in my starting 17.
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| Our backs likely to be...
FB Ratchford
LW Ormsby
LC Atkins
RC Bridge
RW Monaghan
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SH Myler
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| Quote ="The All New Chester Wire"Our backs likely to be...
FB Ratchford
LW Ormsby
LC Atkins
RC Bridge
RW Monaghan
SO Patton
SH Myler'"
is SH Myler bringing the money?
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| Just put a tenner on which one of your centres will be playing opposite atkins for first tryscorer. Warrington are awful at the moment and he even manages to make himself look even worse than the rest. Unless you're changing your kit to blue and amber, and calling yourself leeds rhinos for the night, then salford should be in for an easy night.
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| Is Atkins really that bad? He's getting plenty of stick from the Warrington fans lately. If so, what has happened to him?
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| Ahh I see the Warrington boo boys are out in force already. Take a trip over to their forum, dearie me, you’d think you were on Wakefield’s forum by some of the doom mongering going on. It typical (recent history) Warrington style they lose a couple of games and that’s it, they're finished booooooooo. Most fans are suggesting they won’t be in the top 4 and some are even suggesting defeat to Dewsbury in the cup!!!
Warrington have more than enough to finish in the top 4 and they will do comfortably, they will stick 60 on Dewsbury and will beat us by 20. Will everything be ok then? You bet it will, give it a rest Warrington fans!!
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| Any idea when Josh Griffin is back?
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| Quote ="Alffi_7"Any idea when Josh Griffin is back?'"
Warrington game might be on to soon he said, but definitely Magic.
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| We won't finish in the top 4, no chance.
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"Is Atkins really that bad? He's getting plenty of stick from the Warrington fans lately. If so, what has happened to him?'"
He makes some woeful decisions in defence and blames the others around him add in the fact he picks and chooses when he feels like putting a performance (not had many from him in the last 12 months) plus he cant pass either
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| Quote ="Ave It!"Ahh I see the Warrington boo boys are out in force already. Take a trip over to their forum, dearie me, you’d think you were on Wakefield’s forum by some of the doom mongering going on. It typical (recent history) Warrington style they lose a couple of games and that’s it, they're finished booooooooo. Most fans are suggesting they won’t be in the top 4 and some are even suggesting defeat to Dewsbury in the cup!!!
Warrington have more than enough to finish in the top 4 and they will do comfortably, they will stick 60 on Dewsbury and will beat us by 20. Will everything be ok then? You bet it will, give it a rest Warrington fans!!'"
You're absolutely right of course and it's always a pleasure to visit the Turkey to escape a bit of doom mongering and negativity.
Oh and your little side swipe about "(recent history)" surely it's all about expectations and managing them, longevity doesn't really play a part? Rightly or wrongly, we had great expectations of top 4 at the season's start and yes we still might make it. Quite a few, me included think not, but, accept that up to now it's an odd season with very few points separating teams, so who knows? Recent defeats at home to Hudd's, Cas and FC haven't exactly eased our anxiety about drifting too far to catch 4th after the split if our patchy form continues.
It's a bit ironic, you moaning about us moaning on our own board, so much so that I'm now moaning on yours ha ha
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"
It's a bit ironic, you moaning about us moaning on our own board, so much so that I'm now moaning on yours ha ha'"
Welcome to Salford, where 90% of our fans like a good moan.
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| Quote ="martin13"Welcome to Salford, where 90% of our fans like a good moan.'"
And the other 10% are oblivious to the quality of moaning!
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| Well Martin was not at his best when he joined us ... he was better when he played for 'Fax.
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| Kind of an off topic question but a friend of mine has bought a ticket for the West stand for the Warrington game and is in W05 Row A. Does anyone know if this is right down at the front or right at the back of the block. Im on M but never noticed if it was descending or ascending?
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| Quote ="Big Keev"Kind of an off topic question but a friend of mine has bought a ticket for the West stand for the Warrington game and is in W05 Row A. Does anyone know if this is right down at the front or right at the back of the block. Im on M but never noticed if it was descending or ascending?'" A is the front row, mate.
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"Is Atkins really that bad? He's getting plenty of stick from the Warrington fans lately. If so, what has happened to him?'"
Well his winger Gene Orsmby has just scored a Hatrick tonight down that Salford Right edge.... all three tries came off a face ball pass From Ben Currie that [umissed out[/u Atkins.....
Atkins problem has always been his pass selection and quality of pass, fortunately for us tonight Currie didn't have that problem.... If Currie just ships the ball onto Atkins on those three occasions, more than Likely Ormsby ends up in touch or doesn't get a pass... and we lose...
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"Well his winger Gene Orsmby has just scored a Hatrick tonight down that Salford Right edge.... all three tries came off a face ball pass From Ben Currie that [umissed out[/u Atkins.....
Atkins problem has always been his pass selection and quality of pass, fortunately for us tonight Currie didn't have that problem.... If Currie just ships the ball onto Atkins on those three occasions, more than Likely Ormsby ends up in touch or doesn't get a pass... and we lose...'"
Sum up Atkins to a tee
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