I took my kids yesterday we were treated very well they opened the gates to let us in, and escorted us to the mini lift in the east stand. I however insisted on going back to the turnstiles to get all our eight tickets scanned in as we may have not counted on the official attendance otherwise.

I was shocked to find out this morning that someone I work with took his son and both he a season ticket holder and his son were frisked. He was really upset about it , in fact said he had had enough.

One of the problems here is that if you start treating people as though they are thugs, you start to create an atmosphere where people may be more inclined to act like them.

Now I know why someone throwed a bottle at the Hull KR players

WHAT ?!?!?!?!?

Clearly you ARE missing something. Sorry... but I can't take such a polite response on this one.

Rugby League has always been a sport you can go to where you feel safe. Never has it needed frisking before... and it doesn't need it now.

This isn't a silly thing.... If the club don't get things right off the pitch... then the rugby will suffer in the long term... and this is not at all right. Don't even start me on the Health and Safety brigade... who ALWAYS go over the top

Fact is... it made me feel very uncomfortable...so therefore... it's wrong... so it DOES mean that it's wrong.

If you are happy to be assumed to be a thug before going into a rugby league game, then good for you... I DON'T !!!

Oh.... and only being worried because I have something to hide... I'm not 'worried'... not have I anything to 'hide'... I just think it is completely unnecessary.

Do any other RL stadiums routinely frisk fans?

Not that I`m aware of BF , in 30 + years of attending games I`ve never been frisked at any stadium.

What Stewards Are Supposed To Do

Their primary duty is to be responsible for the safety and comfort of spectators within the stadium and designated areas;

To keep gangways, stairwells and all entry and exit routes clear;
If an evacuation of the stadium is required to assist in its orderly completion and to make certain they are aware at all times of the proper procedures to follow
Help the Police in identifying anyone who is banned from the stadium or anyone who does not have the correct entry requirements for the ground (stolen, duplicate or counterfeit tickets);
To make sure that the conditions upon the Club’s safety certificate and their ground regulations are met at all times (standing in all-seater stadiums is covered here);
To eject any fans for breaches of ground regulations;
Adhering to any Club policy dealing with searches as a condition of entry to avoid prohibited items entering the stadium:
To be fully aware of all medical support and safety equipment;

What Stewards Are Allowed To Do
Under English law (which will include Wales for these purposes) Stewards have no special powers but are able like anyone to have a power of arrest where:

a breach of the peace is committed in their presence;
the person effecting the arrest reasonably believes that such a breach will be committed in the immediate future by the person arrested, or;
a breach of the peace has been committed or the person effecting the arrest reasonably believes that breach of the peace has occurred and that a further breach is threatened.
A breach of the peace occurs whenever harm is actually done or is likely to be done to a person or, in their presence, to their property, or where a person is in fear of being harmed through an assault, affray, riot, unlawful assembly or other disturbance.

Stewards have no legal power over and above anyone else to do more than is detailed above.

Hull Kr have history (as we do unfortunately) of bad behaviour on the terrace and are viewed as a high security game so being frisked is part of that I surpose, what I found bizarre was a security guard walking up and down Liverpool road miles away from the ground did anyone else see him?
I was frisked regular at the willows and various grounds around the country both at football and rugby (probably because I was carrying the banners in a bag big enough to fit a AK47) didn't bother me if I'm honest.


It's a stadium issue nothing to do with the club

Frisked at the Willows? Really? We're talking about the sort of search you get at an airport if you set the alarm off, not simply a rummage through a bag.

More of a pat down in my pockets if I'm being honest as they were bulging with shoe laces / tape but I did give myself up for it mind. could have done with a knife mind untiying the banners at the back was always a pain...

So if they are going to frisk people they do every single person who goes in the ground i didnt see much frisking going on at the main entrance where all the directors and their hangers on going in being searched

Maybe with the tannoy announcments there was some form of testing going on or the stadium people were aware that they were maybe being observed?.

Aren't the security stewards employed by G4S rather than the stadium management company?

strange if it was done to prevent possible crowd trouble then why is it possible to move unchecked to all parts of the stadium the only time I have been physically searched was at the JJB /DW and ive not been since

Ive watched the last 1150ish Hull KR games home and never seen anyone frisked until Monday ......

Have a guess who is going to suffer if people who get frisked don't come back. We've got to stop separating club/stadium issues - they are one and the same in terms of outcome and perception.

It seemed a bit random too. A couple of people in front of me were frisked; I wasn't.

Snap. A few in front of me were searched yet I wasn't and the bloke behind me wasn't

They can't search everybody, it's not feasible, hence why it's done randomly.

It's probably a reaction to a couple of n0bheads who've throw things from the standing area. Probably the same idiots who used to do it at the Willows. It only takes one idiot to hit a ref or an opposition player with an object and the SMC/club will get the book thrown at them (fines/parts of the stadium closed etc).

Blame the goons who can't handle their beer for it, it was only a matter of time.

Thrown things that were purchased in the stadium.

Exactly and they want to keep it that way. Imagine if it was an unopened bottle or can, it would've travelled at a faster velocity and could do some damage. That's why you're now frisked, to minimise some chebend lobbing something much worse.

Like I said, blame the goons.

there's a big difference in bag searches and being frisked.
wonder if any sale fans will be searched on sundays open day
think you can get loads of contraband in those big wax jackets and down those hunter wellies

Yes. I know I'm repeating myself constantly on this one, but they are a bloody dreadful company. Look at the reputation the stewarding at Lancashire CCC now has - regarded as the worst on the county circuit. The company? G4S.

As for it preventing people bringing bottles/cans in and so on... Well, if the monitoring inside the stadium did its job properly then anyone opening one inside the ground would be spotted and the stewards would then be able to do something about it.

I too wasn't frisked and neither was the lad I went through the turnstiles with. There was no one else queuing up to get in at the time, which means they couldn't be leaving us due to time saving issues, so I'm not entirely sure what their protocol is for deciding who get searched?

You mean like the can,similar in appearance to the ones provided for free in the goody bags,thrown in the direction of the KR players celebrating their final try ?
Maybe the action by the stewards has been due to complaints by the groundstaff after they have discovered
'objects' on the playing surface.
4 pages about people doing their jobs just because it is humiliating,degrading and annoying - but that is due to the state of the nation and it's inhabitants.
If it doesn't kill you it will make you stronger ! Get over it.Take out your frustration on the individual who threw the can.It is specimens like him to blame.

The reasons given at the turnstiles are about carrying knives... and other weapons... the reasons by the chief steward were because they caught somebody with a bottle of vodka. Well if somebody wants to get a bottle of vodka in... they will... frisking or not.

To respond to other points made....

The frisks were random... On standing at the turnstiles with the chief steward watching other frisks take place... he said that they were targeting people who looked like they could be concealing items... such as those with big pockets and baggy clothes... to which I didn't fall into any category... this was agreed by the chief steward. We saw a couple of guys come through who weren't frisked by the same guy who got me... and they looked like they could have smuggled a land rover in.... It was very random... and completely un-called for.

I don't care what anybody says... Frisking is not called for at a Rugby League game. There are people who have gone against the stadium regulations... and guess what... they were caught inside the ground... now... we are all being tarred with the same brush as those people. I saw old guys frisked who looked like they had never thrown a punch in anger... nevermind smuggle stuff into stadiums to stab somebody with.

If somebody wants to throw stuff... the can get stuff inside the ground to throw... as some have said... they were even handing out un-opened cans outside the ground... they would feel like a brick if they hit somebody... but that was allowed.

If they REALLY are that desperate to throw stuff... Coins can hurt too... are they going to take those off us ?

Flags are allowed in.... if somebody REALLY wants to stab somebody... you can make a pretty sharp stick when sharpening it against a breeze block... Are they going to be confiscated ?

And if we use the actual reason used by the chief steward... a bottle of alcohol... is it the glass that was the issue or the vodka... if it's the glass... does that mean we can take it in alcohol in a plastic bottle.... if it's the alcohol... does that mean they are going to ban alcohol inside the ground ? OR... Are these frisks actually taking place because it means the stadium could be losing money on sales of alcohol... if that's the case... THEN IT'S NOT WORTH FRISKING ME FOR !!!