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| Quote ="Chester J Lampwick"I don't remember St Helens calling for slow organic growth in the 90s when they built a championship and cup winning side (which will have helped the subsequent youth production line immensely) on the back of bringing in the likes of Goulding, Martyn, Joynt, Newlove, Sullivan, Hunte, Perellini, Matautia, Gibbs etc'"
That's the major hypocrisy in all of this. Most of the clubs slating us for trying to become competitive quickly have done exactly the same at some point. St's as highlighted above, Wigan in the 80s, Widnes in the 80s, Wire in the last 10 years. Wigan and Saints in particular have been able to use the success they've had to blood youngsters in a way that would be impossible for us to do starting from such a position of weakness. The idea that we could have progressed 'organically' with Theo and Sneyd at half back this year is madness.
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| Quote ="Walshovski"...The idea that we could have progressed 'organically' with Theo and Sneyd at half back this year is madness.'"
I think Sneyd would have been good for us this year with a decent pack to work with. Fages is a brilliant kid but I think is just too small at the moment, he was getting manhandled by Saints due to his size...He'll fill out in time but not this season.
Signing 2 quality halfbacks was 1 too many though IMO and I can see where people are coming from in that respect. The team should have been built around developing what quality youth we have at the moment, instead we're moving what we already had to fit around players we've bought.
We'll see what happens come the end of the season but some decisions have been a little dubious in my eyes, particularly the halfback situation.
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| Even if the marquee rule was brought in,what sort of world class players would be attracted to Salford given you have zero record of success for years and years?
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| Quote ="Bruce_Forsyth"Even if the marquee rule was brought in,what sort of world class players would be attracted to Salford given you have zero record of success for years and years?'"
The sort of world class player who likes a massive wedge in their back pocket - which generally means any of them.
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| Are you available Bruce?
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| Quote ="Bruce_Forsyth"Even if the marquee rule was brought in,what sort of world class players would be attracted to Salford given you have zero record of success for years and years?'"
How much have South Sydney won recently?
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| Quote ="Bruce_Forsyth"Even if the marquee rule was brought in,what sort of world class players would be attracted to Salford given you have zero record of success for years and years?'"
What an absolute waste of motor skills you have there.... moving the thought to sissy soccer for a moment, how successful had Man City been up until they were in a position to pay mercenaries???
Fact is Money talks
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| Quote ="PaulCam1972"What an absolute waste of motor skills you have there.... moving the thought to sissy soccer for a moment, how successful had Man City been up until they were in a position to pay mercenaries???
Fact is Money talks'"
The huge difference is Man City were already a big club before they could attract these mercenaries, despite them going 34 years trophyless.
By contrast, Salford Red Devils aren't a big club...in any way shape or form.
The top RL players want to sign for the likes of Wigan,St Helens and Leeds. Big clubs. Big name clubs with a tradition of success, something Salford Red Devils certainly DON'T have.
You may, just may, be able to attract the next rank down of players rather than the cream of the crop.
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| Quote ="Bruce_Forsyth":2mzgzbl6The huge difference is Man City were already a big club before they could attract these mercenaries, despite them going 34 years trophyless.
In the eyes of their own fans, yes, but no-one else is fooled (bar numpties like yourself).
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| Quote ="Bruce_Forsyth"The huge difference is Man City were already a big club before they could attract these mercenaries, despite them going 34 years trophyless.
By contrast, Salford Red Devils aren't a big club...in any way shape or form.
The top RL players want to sign for the likes of Wigan,St Helens and Leeds. Big clubs. Big name clubs with a tradition of success, something Salford Red Devils certainly DON'T have.
You may, just may, be able to attract the next rank down of players rather than the cream of the crop.'"
B0ll0x! Manchester City were a small lower table club compared to the top half of the premier league, only got big crowds when Utd came to town, no players ever heard of them, simple fact is money talks and a sporting career is short, players will want to get as much as they can.
Show players the money they will come it's happened at City, Chelsea, PSG, Monaco. All preciously average clubs who have gone on to altot better things WITH money!
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| Quote ="Bruce_Forsyth"The huge difference is Man City were already a big club before they could attract these mercenaries, despite them going 34 years trophyless.
By contrast, Salford Red Devils aren't a big club...in any way shape or form.
The top RL players want to sign for the likes of Wigan,St Helens and Leeds. Big clubs. Big name clubs with a tradition of success, something Salford Red Devils certainly DON'T have.
You may, just may, be able to attract the next rank down of players rather than the cream of the crop.'"
League Championships (before either club's current wealth)
Salford: 6 (six)
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Jog on bell end.
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| Bruce Forsyth
Nice to hear you, to hear you nice.
Now as Mrs Brown would say fek off
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| Did he just say City were a big club? Jesus. When did you start watching football after 2008? Big clubs sell out and don't need to offer kids for £1 tickets.
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| Quote ="Bruce_Forsyth"The huge difference is Man City were already a big club before they could attract these mercenaries'"
And with that post any pretence at credibility has left the building.
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| Its quite sad when a thread like this turns into a comparing football clubs with rugby clubs. No matter who the clubs are, the environment they operate in and the money involved are totally different.
This thing about mercenaries is totally false, any sportsman or businessman moves on for three things 1) A new challenge 2) The chance to progress or achieve things 3) more money...IMO no one can claim otherwise unless the move holds sentimental reasons.
Teams go after players which they believe can help the team in the stage they are in. The job for Salford this year is to improve on previous seasons and this year we have the players to do that. We have progressed as a club and been able to attract a better class of player, using the salary cap we are entitled to. Next year we will do the same and so on and so forth.
As long as we have an owner who invests, we will only continue to grow as a club, attract better players and become more successful, its as simple as that.
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| Quote What an absolute waste of motor skills you have there.... moving the thought to sissy soccer for a moment, how successful had Man City been up until they were in a position to pay mercenaries???
Fact is Money talks'"
Ditto Man Utd.
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| I think Man City were in the top 10 clubs for trophies and crowds even before the takeover. Whilst not being in the elite back then they certainly were a big club. They have certainly left the 'yesterdays men' of Liverpool and Man Utd in their wake thesedays and it doesnt get away from the fact Salford will NEVER attract world class players
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| Following a bit of criticism earlier on, "Bruce_Forsyth" has now upped his game a bit, and has improved his level of trolling.
It's still just trolling though, and the option to just ignore him is always available to you.
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| Koukash has now give up trying the salary cap abolished and have the marquee signing rule (all for the good of rugby like tho hahaha) and is now just going to offer teams cash for two points.
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| Quote ="St pete"Koukash has now give up trying the salary cap abolished and have the marquee signing rule (all for the good of rugby like tho hahaha) and is now just going to offer teams cash for two points.'"
Ha. Ha.
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| Getting thrashed by a mediocre club like Widnes...it's exactly where you are at.
So with that in mind, who are all these world class players you lot said earlier in this thread would be attracted to Salford?
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| Now I remember you Brucie - When your team was thrashed by Widnes last year I saw you walking around the ground in your track suit - It was you wasnt it? Had your initials of the back.
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| Quote ="St pete"Koukash has now give up trying the salary cap abolished and have the marquee signing rule (all for the good of rugby like tho hahaha) and is now just going to offer teams cash for two points.'"
I've had w*nks that were funnier than you.
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| Quote ="GT"I've had w*nks that were funnier than you.'"
Not something I'd admit to mate
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| With the injuries mounting you think that if the Doc has a possible RU signing lined up it might be announced soon, I do wonder if he has some form of ace up his sleeve re the salary cap exempt signing.
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