He was never gonna go anywhere for 60k thats for sure!

Who knows what the figure will end up, But I think you will be digging a lot deeper than that.

We do not want him to leave, We have said that on many an occasion. But cannot say he isn't for sale, As every player in every sport has a price.

I think the first offer is sensible & a negotiating ploy. The transfer market is dead - we are still in recession and clubs bar a couple (Castleford included) are losing money each and every day. Cas know the date of his contract draws ever nearer each day and there is a depreciating value attached to that.

Any transfer fee is bunse to the club. Cas didnt spend any money to get him in the first place from St George.

I would be surprised if the Chairman doesnt go back - maybe next month BEFORE their match with Warrington as Cas will have been without gate income for about a month - and ups the offer to maybe £90k to £100k.

Sometimes its better to deal knowing that there is a market of One (dont think other clubs will be shelling out transfer fees). Who knows what might happen to the player in the meantime. Going back a long time - Billy `Daz` Davies was sold to Wigan for - what was then a huge fee - £10k. I think he played one match and never played again but stand corrected if my old brain hasnt got the figures right.

Hold on Chairman and see them again on 1st August.

Spot on. £60k is a sensible starting point, whether you're buying a house, car or one of the best players in Super League your first offer is always going to be refused. By starting as low as we have, it gives us room to improve our offer and ultimately settle at an amicable figure.

Its called negotiation, something Dr Koukash knows more about than most.

Castleford have to weigh up the financial advantages to any offer. If selling Chase (one of the most watchable players in SL) knocks 500 off the attendance of every home game over the last two years of his contract that is a loss in revenue of £260k. The club will also become less attractive to sponsors as our player who receives most publicity and promotion will not be there.
Unless the offer is 300k+ I would imagine Castleford would be financially better off keeping Chase for the next two years.

Your forgetting the important part in the £360k saving they'll achieve through the remaining 2 years on his contract.

His replacement, Ryan McGoldrick will be much cheaper too

Obviously.But this seems to be a statement to appease the Castleford supporters before the announcement that he has gone or an effort to try and provoke a response from other clubs.
I cannot understand why the Castleford club have made this announcement but remianed silent back in the winter
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We are just haggling over the price

Well said i think the salford supporters think there gonna get him for peanuts. Its not worth cas selling him unless its a big figure and mr k may have money to spend but 60k is an insult to chase and if thats their starting relationship cant see this one happening.

And you go and offer £60k for him.........

If your ambitious, If you've got Money If he's the Second best player in the league and if you dont want to continually be the ridiculed, Or have Dr Koukash have pot shots taken at him, offer Castleford a hundred grand and stop messing about.......

recently koukash has commented on signings that are "almost over the line" or a "done deal" but not mentioned "out of respect to their current club".

this signing appears to be neither as its not near the line and you arent showing Cas any respect.....

We have probably signed him,and this is just a charade for the Cas fans.

Course he won't be going anywhere for 60000 Koukash will be just testing the water first, abit like Uniteds offer of 12million for Layton Baines. This offer will rise until both clubs agree.

If you base it on us having say 3000 Members, We would only have to increase the price by £30 next season to cover the transfer fee your talking about. The majority wouldn't begrudge that to keep the best player in the league.

At the end of the day, If you want him your going to have to pay for him.

It was suggested that Rangi Chase is trying to push the deal through, As the money your offering him is ridiculous - Which there isn't many people in the world would turn down about a 50% pay rise. But, He signed the deal, The biggest deal in the clubs history, And we are within our rights to hold him to it.

If I was Cas - I would make it very simple - Buy his contract out - Or look elsewhere.


We all know, If Marwan wants him, Then he has the money to buy him. We will aim to make sure the deal benefits us, And £100'000 is not gonna come close IMO

Is he not out off contract any way end of season....

If Cas are expecting more than £100k in this current market then they are deluding themselves and their fans. Can you tell me ANY other club over here willing to pay a transfer fee nowadays. The game is skint and Cas are near the brink. I reiterate the market for Rangi is ONE & Cas really shouldnt be looking a gift horse in the mouth.

250000 will be enough I feel,

No way Red League - Less than half that at the most.

Is the great Charlie Caroli any relation of yours.

How have we not shown Castleford any respect? All our transfer and/or offers have been done so with the upmost respect. Maybe you should think before throwing wild statements around without any knowledge or facts to back them up.

We are negotiating with Cas, you obviously have limited business experience if you think we would just throw £100k at them straight away.



Luckily your not negotiating the deal and Koukash will pay much less, which when added to the saving made on Chase salary leaves Cas looking much better financially.

Then we won't get Chase then. Didn't the Doc offer a world record fee for Tompkins? Chase is probably only 2nd to him so it has to be well over £100000 for me?

Didn't Hull FC offer £350000?

It may be enough to satisfy you and I fear the Cas BOD - I think they would find it hard to turn down, but I would urge them to. The fans certainly wouldn't want him going for that

And we are not deluded at all, He is still contracted for more than 2 years, And is the best player in the league next year when Tomkins leaves. If you honestly think the best player in the league is only worth 100k, Its you who are deluded.

We don't want to sell him. We have been building a team around him and will continue to do so, If he wants out and engineers the move, We have to try and make the deal suit us.

I put it to you all, If Cas stand firm at 350k (Which is what was rumoured last year) - Would you not want Marwan to pay it as it would be too much ? - Would you accept that he wasn't worth it. The good Dr has set himself up for a fall saying he will splash the cash to get you the best, Time to put his money where his mouth is. But as I say at the start of this post, I fear 250k will be a figure that will satisfy our board.

The reality is that we ,as mere supporters,don't have a clue what the correct figure is,and it doesn't really affect us.
Just leave them to it,picking numbers out of the air is just pointless

That was a figure widely talked about.

Hull fc also paid more than 100k for Westerman, So 100k wasn't a record fee.

If I remember rightly - Wigan paid Bradford about 450k for Fielden back when they were in danger of going down.

There is a long way to go if this is going to happen:
1. Cas and Salford have to agree a price. At the moment, I hear that the two valuations are WELL apart.
2. Chase will want to leave Cas and join Salford. He currently lives close to Cas and has a young child to look after.
3. Chase's wages. Next year he will be the highest paid player in SL. Castleford manage this as we don't have to worry about going over the salary cap. Matching his current contract whilst trying to build a team of other high-earners around him and staying under the cap will be very difficult.
4. And this is the biggest obstacle - he would have set a legal precedent to get a Visa or citizenship. It's been done to death but the fact is that there has never been a Visa or Citizenship granted to anyone currently serving a criminal sentence, as Chase is at the moment.

Wasn't Whiteheads asking price £100000 which we met with Bradford?