Early Bath
even when you broke up that posting into bite-sized pieces, it still did not make sense.

I've tried to put it through a google translation but it remains GIGO

Can someone explain what the hell he's going on about. I think there was a poor reference to a Dickens quotation in there but lost the thread immediately after.

27 years down the drain.

Last season we got the Sky money like every other Super league club,plus the sponsorship money,plus odds and ends,
so are you telling me the board put money in,do you no this for a fact,if you don,t.Then the only money we got is on the top line. If you was the chairman of the club,in the state we are in,would you be spending money on a Football Director
or where It should be on players.I don,t think a fairy godmother would come in and let this lot spend her money,
I bet you would,t either,

"do you no this for a fact,if you don,t.Then the only money we got is on the top line. "

Does anyone own a babel fish that I could use for LT?

At least Australians can and do speak English.

I'd say the last few seasons supporting the Reds for the supporters has been a question of faith over common sense.

The last season and last 6 months in particular has made more than just the ' hot headed ' question, not just the leadership on the coaching staff and field, but of the club as a whole.
Surely we can make public our concern's and fears over where the management of the club has taken us without being shouted down by the ' [iwithout JAW we wouldn't be here [/i' veto,

Since at least 2004 the New Stadium has ben touted as almost a Nirvana destination , a made real emerald city and that once there all our troubles will be behind us.

The Barton Stadium is a very different proposition than the one first muted , It carries an hefty financial burdon on the Club as Primary tenant, and doesn't appear to open ' massive income streams'? In fact it appears the Club are cutting back for their inaurgural season there. yet in our franchise bid [i(The club has set itself ambitious performance targets in the new stadium which are based upon solid commercial, marketing, and media plans in what will be an excellent facility)[/i ( We the Fans don't Know ).

The decision over colours of seats in the stadium has brought home how little say we will have in the ground , how much say? ( We the Fans don't know ).

Are Sale RUFC being courted as Joint Tenants and what the relationship with the Stadium Management and the Primary Tenant be ? ( We the Fans don't know ) .

The lack of forward planning towards the move - Marketing ? , next season Shirts , Travel/ Parking and transport arrangements , who is in controls of this the Club or the Stadium management ? ( We the fans don't know ) .

The decision of the 'hiearchy' of the club in choosing an unknown Aussie coach , and the embarassing situation we are in now , will the club apologize or explain, and will anybody be culpable ? ( we the Fans don't know ).

The bizzare departure of Malcolm Alker from the Club and the protracted end of Shaun Mcrae , goes on record on BBC mcr he has no interest in another high profile coaching position and two days later is announced as Hull's Director of Rugby.. you guessing? we don't know.

The clubs hammering by the Franchise commitee we need invest further in its playing squad and player development programmes , whilst it is well know we are the worst invested player development program in the league , what are the clubs plans ? ....

The statement that playing kit has not been made available to the senior squad dispite it being publicised the team were returning on 31st Oct ....

So there seems to be enough questions that can be asked, and to deserve an answer of without neccessarily demanding the mass resignation of the board.

We are only human to be concerned for the club we love and to receive more than ' there will be no further comment on this issue'.
I'm sorry but this is a contemptable attitude and will only foster futher speculation if not addressed.
No I don't wish the Chairman to resign , no I haven't got a spare 10m quid stashed away, but yes I do think the club should come clean about it's performance to it's major stakeholders ... it's fans

Good post middleman.

Seconded.

Middleman some interesting points, but I would reckon Salford are one of the unluckiest clubs going, every time we seem to be taking a step forward we end up three steps back and as with the new stadium some of this is not the clubs fault. The iconic stadium, its funding stopped by the Casino lottery, the next funding stream the retail park, objections from Manchester Council led to a public enquiry adding more expense before a sod was cut. Then along comes the credit crunch and nobody wants the hotel that was to fund the ground. Next the playing side of things, we are told that players don't have proper medicals, so in the last few years we have signed players who are too injury prone, is that our fault well you take a risk, but the signing of Moon and the weekend it is announced, he breaks his ankle well that could not be foreseen.
The inability to get home draws in the CC to generate some extra gate money, some of us fans must have done something bad in our past lives to take on Salford. Oh and one more thing we suddenly get more fan competition as City are bought by a billionaire and their wayward fans return to them and United in this period have been winning trophies galore.
We even had Lib Dem candidates calling the club as an attempt to win a seat in the local elections. I am sure others can add to this, Leeds the semi against Sheffield the club just self destructed when losing was the hardest thing to do.

Which bit HR ?

Sorry Pev, apart from a couple of points re the 'iconic' stadium thats got to be the most codswallop of an excuse to back the club that I've ever read.

Lance - ask yourself who makes up the £500k deficit? If its not the Board then there will be some very kind creditors. The simple fact is we lost Half a MIllion in the year.

As for the Football Director. JAW is happy to have SS do the contracts and everything else HE might have to do so he can concentrate on his businesses.

Keep looking for that Fairy Godmother please or send an email to Mr Done. If he can spend £800 Million to buy the Tote Salford is just chicken feed. The `Bet Fred Dome` etc. Go on - sell him the idea. JAW would be pleased to release control if you can manage it.

not saying it is an excuse to back the club but pointing out a few of the soap opera happenings at the club.

Don't forget we don't have any rich benefactors who can just step in as with many other clubs, perhaps one is waiting in the background for the club to go bust and then pick it up for a song just like Widnes and Wakefield, because nobody will waste £5m to buy the club and then have to start investing.

OK but please don't base the current status of the club on luck. Next you'll be saying it was the referee's fault

EB, I was thanking you for breaking up a post that, in its original state, was unintelligible. Sadly, in your format, it remained largely unintelligible.

Superbly put!!!

Cracking post from middleman, unsurprisingly ignored by the likes of Early Bath.

Some excellent points well made middleman.

Was that OK?

So you can see that people have legitimate concerns about the way the club is being run? Pretty much every other post you have made has been a staunch defence of club policy.

No no no Karlos - I havent defended the policy - I have only defended the Board`s position regarding funding - they have the right to govern as they think fit as they are paying the bills and I accept that - whereas others havent.

Fair enough. Hopefully some good will come out of all the current turmoil before the season gets started.

That's one of the middle of the bat for middleman great post

I have to agree with Early Bath Fred Done needs someone to have a word with him about SCR.

why he is only into United and just gives a passing glance at Salford.

Nonsense Bpev if no one puts it to fred done how do we know his answer?? I'm trying to look for a solution i suggest you open your mind instead of dismissing things instantly. Early Bath has a great point and it's something positive. Peace out.