According to a Sunday paper a few weeks back (can't remember which one though) Millward was linked with the job should SM get the boot.

In answer to the original post, NO, I wouldn't sign a petition to oust SM.

GT's post is probably the most sensible post i've read on here for ages! How often do you get to say that about one of his posts?



Some people need to get their heads out of the clouds!!

Firstly,
we need to give him time in SL. I think we played badly at times last season but the squad was very young and inexperienced.

Secondly
the team needs stability, whether long term Shaun is the answer or not this team need time in an atmosphere that is healthy without the backbiting etc.

The players need to accept responsibility.

Cashmere may want more time, but he needs to make the tackles, he isn't doing so at present, this in turn may have more to do with the lack of game time.

The biggest thngs are:
Shaun needs to make some tough calls and dropping a couple of players is a start.

Shaun needs to stop making himself and the club look stupid in the press and on the radio, he sounds as if he is surprised and lacks solutions to the problems.

Steve Simms needs to think about the way he bigs up the players, yes praise Myler but not in the way he did last week.

Short answer is no sacking or petition.

I think I have resigned for capacity to attend away matches, because what i see on the park is making me very angry, i want this club to be up with the best with big crowds watching entertaining rugby. This season the effort on the field as all but disappeared, the rugby is very boring and predictable and the stadium situation just is a long running farce, I am actually sick of the club at the minute if the truth be known. I stood in my usual spot for the wigan game with a wigan fan and his comments were very correct about the team and I felt pain because the truth hurts, and somebody at the club should make some sort of statement about what exactly we are doing and where we are going. I just see despair all around me and going to matches is not fun anymore, perhaps we could up the crowds by making attendance at a Salford match part of a Community Sentence just a thought.

Well, Martin Edwards said not, but I think everyone knows it did. But that proves my point. United stuck with Fergie, Robins scored that goal, we won the Cup that year and it went on from there. If we'd sacked him when everyone was calling for his head, when the supporters wanted him out, it's quite possible none of our success would ever have happened.

I'm not saying that, in five years time, Salford will be beating all before them. But a bit of stability would do us a lot of favours.

Having read numerous posts over the past few weeks with regard to Salford’s disappointing start to Super League, I find it heartening that like myself our club has so many passionate supporters that so desperately want so see the team perform well and compete at this level. Personally I can only speak for myself when I say I want to come away at the end of a game feeling proud in the knowledge that my team have competed, performed to the best of their ability and played an entertaining brand of rugby.

I can appreciate we are new to the league and that we are only a few games into the new season but the performances thus far have left me feeling embarrassed, frustrated and totally pessimistic about coming up to speed soon at this level.

I can also understand the need to point fingers by questioning and criticising individuals within the club, and let’s face it nobody has been exempt from this. Having taken time to reflect I think you have to look at the whole picture and appreciate that the playing field is not level because:-

1. Our fan base, income and profile are too low compared with other SL clubs.
2. Our salary cap budget is considerably less than most. (400-500K) and our squad lacks the quality and depth of other clubs.
3. The development area doesn’t produce enough quality young players at the moment. (I understand we now have a big team working hard in the Schools but it will take several years to see the full benefits of this work)
4. Attracting better quality players to the club – We mainly get players the top clubs don’t want or average at best overseas players.
5. The new stadium delays have definitely caused apathy and frustration within the club. It’s absolutely vital for the future that it starts to happen this year. Unfortunately our destiny seems to be totally in the hands of Peel and Salford City Council.

I’m not looking to defend nobody or make excuses for people but these are all facts that have a negative effect on the ‘bigger picture’ if the club are to improve. These are obstacles that have to be overcome if our club is to progress to greater heights.

Is the level of criticism fair towards Shaun McRae or is it similar to expecting Ginger McCain to train a donkey to run in the Grand National? although Karl Harrison seemed to achieve this until we fell painfully at the last hurdle?

Well i cant say im impressed with anything about us this year, tactics,quality, the never ending saga of our stadium..the list could go on and on but i dont see how sacking our coach would help right now. Yes we are absolutely awful at present and a new guy may get more out of us but we just dont have the money to pay him off and get another bloke in. Plus just who would be available. Yes it all sucks at the moment but its a dead season to all intents and purpose i am resigned to having to wait to see just what direction,if any, we as a club go in.

In a nutshell . I agree entirely.

What was you thinking would happen this year?, salford would finish top eight.


Give it a rest and get behind your team you've got 3 years of stabillity so use this year as a learning year.
Take a look at Castleford (rest my case)

If neutrals who attend our games are as bored and as I am at the end then we will never attract new fans and never be able to move forward.
That is the problem here, our play is predictable and boring and has been for over two years.
This is the coaches responsibility and so he must take the blame for the state we are in.
This one year bedding in 3 year $hite just does not wash with me.
In three years time there will be no fans watching and we will be back in NL.
Something has to be done.
I would move Mcrae to Marketing as he is good at that and bring a coach in who knows how to play modern RL.

Mention that to Widnes Leigh and Halifax fans i'm sure they would love to be in your position

No one is saying that. What we want to see is a bit of pride and effort and at present I'm afraid we are not. It is also irritating when we all seem to know what the problems are and our head coach doesn't.

If Mcrae did this he might actually get a bit of respect from the fans/players however everyone knows it will be the same old week after week and he won't make any changes.

And to everyone saying we've got 3 years, don't the new franchise applications go in during the 2011 season? So we've only got this year and next year as full seasons to be judged on. On field performance is part of the criteria in case people have forgotten.




Matt Calland is the man. You heard it here first.

Cas were a lot better than us at this same stage last years - as I recall they beat Leeds and Saints early on in the season so you cannot compare the 2 clubs mate

draw confidence and reassurance from Castleford. we were woeful to say the least for the first 2 thirds of last season, and Terry Matterosn came in for some serious flack. however, as the we entered the final third of the season we were one of the top form sides (believe it or not we we in better form than many in the play offs).

this season we have receruited better (although you learnt of your SL status at the same time as us supposidly and should in theory recruited just as well as us) and look like we're a good mid table side capable of challenging for 6th spot.

LETS KEEP THE FAITH , THE SLUG WILL COME GOOD AND SO WILL THE TEAM WE ALL NEED TO STAND STRONG

me

is this better for you

Course you can IIRC they were bottom for all but a couple of weeks

They may well have been, but they won 7 games.
We will never do this on present form.
They also have a good coach although most of the Cas fans appear not to think this.
They get better crowds so can pay more to players and hence get a better standard.
Overall you can not compare the two clubs.

Ridiculous suggestion.
Get behind him,for heavens sake.
Pathetic !

yes...out off 27


youve only played 6

Having watched Salford since 1946 some of the contributors do worry me with what they are expecting from the club this season, just look at the facts-

(1)Most clubs this season, if not all of them have several hundred thousand pounds extra on their salary cap than we do.

(2)The coach can only spend the amount of money within the salary cap, so expecting SM to get the same with our cap as say HKR, Hull, Bradford, Catalans etc do with theirs is simply not on.

(3)Shaun McRae has a longish contract that, if he is still in the position should -
(a) Take us into the new stadium.
(b) Hopefully improve our performances and consequently our attendances.
(c)Keep us in Superleague.

I personally would have liked to have retained Karl Harrison but the club decided not to.

I personally feel that Shaun McRae has made some strange decisions that as a supporter I cannot understand but Karl Harrison did the same.

I also feel that some supporters whilst being free to express their feelings over the recent results go well over the limit in what they expect to happen and some also make themselves foolish in the way that they criticize the club, the directors, the players and the coaching and occassionally the admin staff.

The players or some players have made a rod for their own backs with what happened or did not happen in Florida and if I were the chairman I would not be a happy chappie to have paid out all that money only to be made to look foolish.

I missed the Saints and Wigan games through holidays but when I returned the different views that I heard from several fans was confusing, for example-

Why do we play people out of position(in the Wigan game) ? upon reading the press and listening to comments from the club I find that White, McGilvary and Wilshire are injured.

Some felt that Fitzpatrick had a poor game, some felt that he had a good game.

Some felt that we made Wigan look a better side than they were, others thought that Wigan played well.

As society does nowadays, someone has to be the scapegoat and take the blame and at Salford we are no different with some supporters thinking that it is fashionable to slag off certain people at the club if things are not going as well as they can be.

What will I do? I will still support the club through bad times as well as good, if the club decides to relieve Shaun McRae of his duties I will still support the club, if they keep faith in him I will still support them.

I will not boo the players, insult their family or friends and I will continue to support the club in their efforts to improve things.

Original Salford City Red - thank you for some sanity on here.

The hysterical stuff that some folk are coming out with, the personal abuse thrown at players, coaches and directors is totally over the top and gets nobody anywhere.

The club has to live within its means or there won't be a club!

Yes the results are disappointing and we all want better but it jus can't happen overnight, and yes I'm worried whether we will (can?) improve, but ranting won't help! Not sure what will, but like you the team will continue to have my support.