He could of actually spent some money and bought some good players? how about that one?

You seriously think that he hasn't ' spent ' any of his own money keeping your club alive

Barmy

Yes he has but nowhere near enough to compete? And don't give me that old chestnut about how he’s a nice man and we should be glad that we have a chairman like him, yes he’s a nice man but that’s about as far as it goes.
Since joining Salford he’s never spent any real money 50.000 for Broadbent massive WOW! All he’s done is made sure Salford were kept in the black and yes that’s all well and good, but Rugby league is a sport watched by fans who want to see there team win trophies and since he’s been here he’s never put Salford in that position ever.
I was talking to a female supporter last night who's been watching for 50+ years and she came out with a old saying which got me thinking yes your absolutely right, and that saying was YOU HAVE TO SPECULATE TO ACCUMILATE and she said since John has never done that since he's been here all he’s ever done is balanced the books? What’s that done for us apart from plenty of relegations?.
We need someone who is willing to go all out and stop taking the cheap option all the time because believe me this club wont have a chance in 2011 for the franchise if something isn’t done in the next two years? i personally thinks john will get us this stadium and go and TBH that’s the best thing he can do for the club.

What do you want the man to do, bankrupt himself to help the club compete?

And, as I keep saying, it's all well and good saying we should spend more money, but if players aren't willing to come and play for us then it's not going to do much good, is it, now?

Thats not our problem though is it?

Oh, well, that's okay then. F*ck it, if it's not our problem then you're right, John Wilkinson should sell his other business interests, home, wife, kids, grandchildren and anything else he might get some money for in order to help Salford RLFC compete in SL and stop being so bloody selfish.

For f*ck's sake.

I agree.

1) It's the coach/Steve Simms who are in charge of signing players.

2) What if these 'good players' just didn't want to play for Salford?


Jesus, how often do people have to repeat themselves on here before a modicum of sense takes hold?!

May sound a bit harsh but the club needs an overhaul if we are ever going to reach the heights[u STARTING AT BOARD LEVEL[/u

Well find someone who's willing to come in, take over, spend a fortune and has Salford RLFC's best interests at heart. Because JW and the rest of the board have been looking for years.


What happened to the nugget suggesting Fred Done was coming in to invest? That's all gone a bit quiet.

isn't it JW who employs Simms and the coach? The book has to stop somewhere and enough coaches have made way for failing to deliver.

They would if they get good offers, and u cant blame the salary cap because club like Wakefield have bought players like solamona and castleford buying players like Sherwin and Huddersfield buying Brett hodgson all quality players and them clubs all them get the same crowds we have had in the past, we haven’t sign one ex international since coming up in 2004

And what have Castleford and Huddersfield won? Answer, f*ck all.

Simms should go as well, since he has been hear we haven’t sign one top players and the only he sign Dunneman because he offered him 1 year and I heard rumours when he left was Dunneman want more money and Salford didn’t offer him what he wanted.

and he sign Quailty players like smith haha and swain.

im not saying we havnt won this n that, im saying we cant sign any good players even to start with.

Without John Wilkinson we would not have made Superleague at all, let alone the last franchise application.
We all owe him a huge debt of gratitude.
I think he has said he wants to hand it on to a person who can give it a good future.
There are no takers !!

The problem is that ,because of what he has done, supporters have turned him into some kind of 'God like' figure who can do no wrong and,having built him up are now ready to hammer him with criticism.

He is not perfect and has made loads of mistakes ,as we all would.
I never bought into the new stadium dream totally, and thought it would end in tears and I really hope that I turn out to be wrong.

The bottom line is that there is no point in slagging JW off.He has gone for the dream and,even if it doesn't work out ,we have been far better off with him than we would have been without him.

Plan B would be worth starting work on ,though !!

You need to be very careful of taking the ' renting a council facility ' route

Yes you might end up with a shiny concrete box to play in , but unless you run it and get revenue off it , you might end up like we are at Leigh

Not good

Staggered and disappointed at those knocking JAW. GT & TR make siome very good points in defence and the people pushing for him to go still have not put up any plausible alternative. Its put up or shut up time for them, preferably the former.

john wilkinson as done is best with resorces he as got if the person who wants wilkinson to go in to debt is willing to go in to debt why dont you seen as you care that much for the club why dont you take the debts on

"YOU HAVE TO SPECULATE TO ACCUMILATE" as bankers?

I had many dealings with Oldham Bears (remember them?) until they went bust. I watched the great hope of Doncaster ... until they went bust. I live in Rochdale .... who went bust.

I promise you all that had JW been in any of these towns, there would have been less promises and they would have a club without these histories. Their fans envy us for him.

Too many are happy to spend money they have not got and criticise for decisions they could not make.

RED FLAG RISING, Red Joldsworth, RED LEAGUE, and (especially) red13pjb; I put it to you to buy the club with the profits you obviously are making from your hot-air exploits and organic fertiliser spreading.

You could not make it up.

My only argument has to be that we show a lack of ambition , its so disheartning seeing teams around us do well and grow and get better with new stadiums and bigger crowds and play attractive rugby, and were still the same shower of e we always have been, no progress whatsoever, so I think the buck has to stop with JW, he is a lovely fella, but who honestly thinks he has the ambition to push us on and do you feel he is really selling the club to the right people , i.e. perspective owners . Its all well and good saying without him we wouldn't be in SL , well in 2 years time we won't be anyway and there doesn't seem to be any urgency from the club or JW to address this

So how do you know that is the case?

Can you tell me which clubs you're referring to? Are they punching above their weight or at the level that you might expect them to be?
I'm a Leigh fan and would have happily have seen JW at Leigh doing the job he's done for you.

I think this is where some people have short memories (and I don't just mean you KMT).

'Teams around us' (ie. teams who have been around the bottom of SL and/or top of NL1) during the Super League era have included Paris, Rochdale, Oldham, London, Widnes, Leigh, Halifax, Gateshead, Sheffield, Keighley and Workington, who have all either gone bust or are playing at a lower level than us currently.

Of the teams who are currently above us Saints, Leeds, Wigan, Bradford and Hull have remained above us consistently for a number of years - they are also the only teams that have won anything worth talking about for a number of years.

That only leaves Wire, Wakey, Huddersfield, Cas and Hull KR who could be considered 'teams around us' that are currently above us.
- Wire have a very rich sugar-daddy who has poured money into the club but has nothing to show for it except a shiny new soulless box to play in.
- Huddersfield have been kept alive by the RFL/SL - two years of not being relegated when they finished bottom then the Sheffield 'merger'.
- Wakefield are enjoying some form under Kear, and I don't begrudge them that, but their ground is still poor and their fans are still wary of losing their best players (eg. Atkins) to 'bigger' clubs.
- Hull KR have come good over the last couple of seasons under Morgan but still play in the worst ground in SL.
- We are exactly where Cas were 12 months ago.

I can understand frustration that we don't have Wire's ground or financial colout, or the current form of Wakey, Hudds or Hull KR. However, as we are still in business, haven't broken the salary cap and are still in SL, I reckon we've done pretty well over recent times.

Oh my God some people don't listen or read very well at all do you. I have made numerous posts as have many others with the same theme.

Lets get this straight shall we?

[size=150:30a12bnqWe know JW has spent Hundreds of Thousands of Pounds on the club!!!!!!! Our issue is that most of it has been wasted on players who don't fit the bill. [/size