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| Quote ="redmatt77"
Some people are staying away on principle, which again is fair enough too, but as we have another thread on the forum about potential new investors/owners. Do we think a (totally) empty stadium is going to help attract the investment the club so desperately need? Is it a case of cutting your nose off to spite your face?
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I would think the first question any potential investors would be asking is why is the game being played in Leigh.
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| If you sup with the devil use a long spoon!! Never a truer phrase to describe the dealings with Sky and the Murdoch empire!
For once though I'm in total agreement with LoyalFan's post - this immediate debacle is down to Sky but the longer term issues are a consequence of poor management decisions over the years. However what has happened is in the past - we just have to hope that Martyn Saddler in his tweet is right and there is a new owner/investor on the scene and that he/she/it brings some new ideas & a bit of dynamism to our club
I will be at Leigh - I cannot see how boycotting the game achieves anything whatsoever and as for those who've posted on Facebook that they'll stay at home and watch it on Sky as some form of protest I'm afraid that logic defates me completely.
All in all a very very sad end to a chaotic and ultimately disappointing season after showing some hope early doors.
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I will be at Leigh - I cannot see how boycotting the game achieves anything whatsoever '"
Personally I would love to see sky trying to explain the presence of 3 empty stands but each to their own etc.
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And lastly... but most importantly... This whole issue IS down to Salford. Over 10 years ago... the club decided they would be moving to Barton. They formed Red City Developments... and formed it very poorly. People came on board that should never have come on board. We spent hundreds of thousands of £££s on architects, surveys, planners etc... Then it went bump.
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So RCD was formed very poorly because they needed extra outside investment and that investor ended up having his business assets frozen a few years after they formed RCD? I wouldn't put that down to being badly formed, more bad luck. Have you considered that without this investors money RCD may never have had enough finance to take the project as far as they did? The bit that makes me laugh is your "we spent hundreds of thousands" comment . . I think you will find it was what the other investors in RCD spent not the club!!
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| Quote ="Karlos13"Personally I would love to see sky trying to explain the presence of 3 empty stands but each to their own etc.'"
why would you want our game to look even worse on TV than normal? narrow-minded people think our sport is a joke as it is
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| Quote ="SCR-SeaDiver"Whatever the players think appropriate,in terms of demonstration,I will agree with.'"
Not quite sure what you mean here, Havn't the players been demonstrating en-masse since smith went to wigan ?
I think the players should try playing for a change ? looking back maybe you meant to say "the fans"
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| Quote ="BartonFlyer"If you sup with the devil use a long spoon!! Never a truer phrase to describe the dealings with Sky and the Murdoch empire!
For once though I'm in total agreement with LoyalFan's post - this immediate debacle is down to Sky but the longer term issues are a consequence of poor management decisions over the years. However what has happened is in the past - we just have to hope that Martyn Saddler in his tweet is right and there is a new owner/investor on the scene and that he/she/it brings some new ideas & a bit of dynamism to our club
I will be at Leigh - I cannot see how boycotting the game achieves anything whatsoever and as for those who've posted on Facebook that they'll stay at home and watch it on Sky as some form of protest I'm afraid that logic defates me completely.
All in all a very very sad end to a chaotic and ultimately disappointing season after showing some hope early doors.'"
I vaguely remember an old Pat Boone song- I'll be there, so me and the wife will be.
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| Quote ="JonB95"why would you want our game to look even worse on TV than normal? narrow-minded people think our sport is a joke as it is'"
The fact that it is being played at Leigh is making the game look like a joke anyway.
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| Quote ="redmatt77". Do we think a (totally) empty stadium is going to help attract the investment the club so desperately need? '"
I don't think any new investor would base their decision on this one game? Besides I think you'll find out soon that said investors have already made their mind up, dotting the i's and crossing the t's!
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| Quote ="JonB95"why would you want our game to look even worse on TV than normal? narrow-minded people think our sport is a joke as it is'"
You obviously live in the Sky world where everything in RL is Rosy.
It is a Joke.
You dont live in Wigan do you ?
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| Quote ="Original Salford City Red"I vaguely remember an old Pat Boone song- I'll be there, so me and the wife will be.'"
Well Pat Boone won't be going because it was a Jackson 5 song.
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| Quote ="theredshed"So RCD was formed very poorly because they needed extra outside investment and that investor ended up having his business assets frozen a few years after they formed RCD? I wouldn't put that down to being badly formed, more bad luck. Have you considered that without this investors money RCD may never have had enough finance to take the project as far as they did? The bit that makes me laugh is your "we spent hundreds of thousands" comment . . I think you will find it was what the other investors in RCD spent not the club!!'"
Oh come on !!!
RCD was basically Salford City Reds board of directors... Who spent ridiculous amounts of money on a project going nowhere when it would have been better invested in a realistic project that would have given the club what it needed... Our own stadium.
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| No LF - you are totally wrong there and .......... I am surprised that being so close to the situation you don`t know it.
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| Quote ="RFL website"Salford were aware of the possible problem three weeks ago'"
. I doubt much could still have been done even a few weeks ago though.
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| Quote ="GT"We weren't meant to be at home, though. That's the point. This issue isn't actually down to Sale, they scheduled their fixtures around ours. Sky have suddenly decided, five days before the fixture, to move it to another date. Sod all this "Sky pay us good money so we do as they say" nonsense, this just shows the utter contempt they have for match going supporters. Do they not realise that some people may already have other plans for that day? Do they think people have nothing in their lives but rugby league? Not that it matters, they only care about the 'product' for television audiences. Awful.
They've made a mockery of professional football (but the Premier League is the greatest league in the world and people all over the globe tune in, so who cares if people have to travel from Manchester to Southampton on a Tuesday night) and they're well on the way to doing the same to rugby league. Regardless of where the game is played, if it's not on Friday night, I reckon I've already watched my last Salford game of the season. Thanks a lot, Sky.'"
Apologies, didn't explain myself very well. What I meant was that if we (Salford) are scheduled for a home league game on a particular weekend (be it Friday, Saturday or whenever sky decide) then surely it can't be that difficult to ensure that Sale have an away fixture assigned for the same weekend therefore avoiding any possibilty of a clash.
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| Quote ="LoyalFan"Oh come on !!!
RCD was basically Salford City Reds board of directors... Who spent ridiculous amounts of money on a project going nowhere when it would have been better invested in a realistic project that would have given the club what it needed... Our own stadium.'"
RCD spent a large amount of their own money on a project that a lot of supporters were in favour of,were you at the Civic Centre for the council planning committee votes and the public enquiry? I was and so were many others and the council vote was a huge majority in favour whilst the enquiry had no objectors which meant that the inspector called in by that well known HKR advisor John Prescott had to ask himself questions that he thought any objectors would ask, the inspectors words not mine.
You are correct that it took a lot of money(Directors money) and about 12 months time wasted.
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| Quote ="Early Bath"No LF - you are totally wrong there and .......... I am surprised that being so close to the situation you don`t know it.'"
OK... fair enough... I should have elaborated more on such a strong point. RCD was Peel, Salford RL, and a few other investors. If we concentrate mainly on Salford because that's who we care about most... The Salford side of RCD invested and gambled hugely. Those Salford directors lost a lot of money during the whole RCD venture.... and I really wish they hadn't... and I do feel for them... But being part of that whole thing was a bad decision which ultimately led to Peel being owed a lot of money (or a part of Peel anyway)... and... Eventually led the club having to settle for a stadium owned by the council and Peel... It was our only choice left to us... So the decision to be part of RCD (which did involve a number of our directors) was a bad one... and look where we are now... playing home games at Leigh.
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| Quote ="Alan"As a Leyther who is intrigued by what all the fuss is about Sooper Dooper League, I'll probably venture over to LSV on Saturday. =#FF0000Could someone please advise me what the concession (>65 that is!) price is for the West Stand?
By the way, as for Salford honouring car park passes, the parking at LSV is free anyway, but be careful where you park. Don't park on any of the roads for example, or the wheel clampers will have a field day!
I know it's not the same as playing at home, (although your players are training at the LSV complex every day) but I'm sure you'll enjoy the excellent facilities and atmosphere at LSV.'"
Bump!! As something of an exception on here, I want to take the chance of watching a SL game at our stadium. However, your official website isn't giving ticket prices.
=#FF0000Can anyone please tell me what price the West stand (adjecent to the pitch) will be for a concession? (i.e. what would the price have been at Salford?)
I agree that playing your home game at LSV is a big let down for you loyal supporters. However, once your stadium became unavailable, LSV is a fairly logical choice, as it is your regular training base
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| I turn up rain or shine home or away but I for one will not be going. No I don.t blame Salford, No I don't blame Sale, however I do blame our poor administers the RFL & secondly I would like to see a empty stadium & have sky explain why?
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| sky dont care how many go they only go off viewing figures not on who goes to games so there not bothered. the thing is with it there as to be better game to put on sky than this game. its a joke the whole thing is farsical not going to be going to waste money travelling and pay extra costs to watch are team there not worth paying to watch at minute
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| I TOLD YOU SO!
Hope all you Sale lovers and appeasers are happy. We have become an absolute joke. My final nail in the coffin was the last game at the Willows. For many more, playing at Leigh will be theirs.
As long as the current Board and it's complete lack of vision and finances are in place, Salford are simply going to continue to die and long and lingering death. Who in their right mind is going to continue witnessing it?
At least this move has provoked 15 pages of responses rather than the recent dribs and drabs of little or no interest to what has been happening all season.
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| Quote ="Rooted Red"I TOLD YOU SO!
Hope all you Sale lovers and appeasers are happy. We have become an absolute joke. My final nail in the coffin was the last game at the Willows. For many more, playing at Leigh will be theirs.
As long as the current Board and it's complete lack of vision and finances are in place, Salford are simply going to continue to die and long and lingering death. Who in their right mind is going to continue witnessing it?
At least this move has provoked 15 pages of responses rather than the recent dribs and drabs of little or no interest to what has been happening all season.'"
For someone quoted by Martyn Sadler for one of your contributions to this forum,indicating a passionate support after the victory over Warrington,your posting does seem both incongruous and incorrect.
It has nothing to do with Sale - it is the decision of Sky Television.
If current rumours are to be believed new investors are preparing to take over the club so it may be even more ill-luck if the current owner,who made every effort to bring about the new stadium,now has his last game in charge out of the Salford area.They may even introduce or announce the signings for 2013.
I should point out fings ain't been too good since Mr Tarry left the club - but I ain't one for statistics,anyway.Ending the season with a victory to take into next year and to show thanks to the coaching staff did seem a good idea - and courteous as they have battled against the odds throughout.
I thought making a stand for the little man against big business would have appealed to Salford people - without upsetting Sky too much as Maurice Lindsay,and others,decided the game required their contribution and it seems they are here to stay.
[url=http://mondaypoem.blogspot.co.uk/2010/08/sane-revolution-by-dh-lawrence.htmlI'll cancel the revolution while we fight amongst ourselves[/url
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| Well I hate Sky as much as the next man stop paying for it over 2 years ago after I put my anarak on and counted the number of repeats in one month, worked out you get 3 days of original programming per month, so a lot of money for 3 days telly. I digress, I for one will go to Leigh and cheer on the Reds hopefully to a hollow victory unless Bradford have been won and then the RFL love-in would have worked, but if some of you remember some of our best matches have been at a neutral ground at the end of the season. So lets give John a send off and put the season to bed and turn up and give a two fingered salute to Sky, drink some beer and give the lads a last cheer. A few hours drinking before the game will numb the senses a little so the pain will not be as bad. I an now ready for the parasites who slag off Salford and only go if they get a free ticket, others who will never go again but you will, Salford always do best with our backs against the wall, the team have no place to go but forward and win. Get behind them I know I will be.
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the key words we have agreed to this and club have known about this for three weeks
so why no leek about this, so we the fans and club had time to fight it or make arrangements.
the club look as bad as sky on this and the rugby league do not want fans at games.
we should have stayed at the willows, after all Bradford, Castleford, and Wakefield got back into super league with grounds has bad as our.
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