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| Quote ="Ave It!"I’ve not bothered reading though the whole thread so apologises if it’s been discussed already.
Firstly I’d like to thank Phil for everything he has done in difficult circumstances, but the decision by Koukash and his very experienced backroom is 1000% the correct one. If we want to start building for next season and start attracting the very top players then we need a top coaching set up. I don’t think it’s too early for change at all, in fact it’s the perfect time. It will give the new man time to put procedures in place and sign players ready for next season so we can really start to compete from the off!
Also to the numpties I’ve seen on twitter and facebook who are calling for Alker and Goulding to come into the coaching set up arrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!! How stupid are you people? Why an earth do we need to go back? We need to look forward. We now have the chance to progress and move forward and really get some top quality coaches in place. People who really think Alker will turn us into a top team if he was employed in some form or other are seriously deluded, same goes for people who think the Former ROCHDALE HORNETS coach Bobbie Goulding would be a good choice. No no no.
The new man whoever that may be will be a world class proven coach and he will have his own world class coaching team and advisors he will want to bring with him of that I have no doubt. The time is now for this club to move from the dark ages of Alker and his cronies and move into a new successful era for Salford RLFC. If it doesn’t happen with this man in charge, it never will. He means business and to me it makes a refreshing change. A clear out is exactly what this club needed and that exactly what is happening!!
This isn’t a dig at Alker and what he did do for us IN THE PAST by the way, just a dig at the fans who think we should be employing him again IN THE FUTURE!!'"
I agree. If you have the money and want to be the best you have to pay for the best. I think we will all have a better idea of just how serious or ambitious the new regime is by the calibre of their appointment. Actions speak louder than words, a massive named proven coach with a great record of success or a gamble on a young coach with potential? Let's wait and see if they really do mean business.
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| Quote ="Ordsall Quays Red"Can anyone, seriously, imagine Veivers coaching any other SL team either now or in the not too distant future?'"
Who was the last Salford coach to be recruited by a top level side? Ashcroft after his first stint? It's a rarity anyway.
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| Quote ="Chico"Who was the last Salford coach to be recruited by a top level side? Ashcroft after his first stint? It's a rarity anyway.'"
Alex Murphy 1980, left Salford to Coach Wigan
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| i seriously dont get how there saying they going to give hunte a shot .. how is this an improvement on vievers ? i like hunte and think he could be a good coach but dont get that statement at all.
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| There is only one man who has a cracking record as a caretaker coach and would be perfect now. Step forward Steve Simms!! Your club needs you, where are you? DOH!
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| Quote ="willis91"i seriously dont get how there saying they going to give hunte a shot .. how is this an improvement on vievers ? i like hunte and think he could be a good coach but dont get that statement at all.'"
Alan's done a good job in his role as head of youth development but doesn't have any coaching experiance at senior level. Personally I'd have thought Longy was the obvious choice considering his day to day involvement with the first team squad.
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| yeah course he has but it just baffles me to sack the coach and then promote the head of youth development who isnt proven or has any experiance for me i think they should have give vievers couple more games
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| Quote ="willis91"i seriously dont get how there saying they going to give hunte a shot .. how is this an improvement on vievers ? i like hunte and think he could be a good coach but dont get that statement at all.'" Quote ="willis91"yeah course he has but it just baffles me to sack the coach and then promote the head of youth development who isnt proven or has any experiance for me i think they should have give vievers couple more games'"
It's easier to sack a coach than the whole side so Veivers removal was a very political statement of intent .
Alan Hunte is in charge day to day I guess because out of whats left of our already meager backroom staff he's been at Salford the longest and we need to get the week over and a team out on the pitch at Belle Vue on Sunday .
As for the comment off Ed Farish that Huntey will get his chance , it will be a slim Chance . but they have to say that .
Given the opportunity to bag a ' name coach' and with money burning a hole in the Dr's pocket there's a 99% chance the next guy will have a Antipodeon accent.
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| Quote ="willis91"yeah course he has but it just baffles me to sack the coach and then promote the head of youth development who isnt proven or has any experiance for me i think they should have give vievers couple more games'"
Have you ever thought that the Dr, Farish, and Lowe etc had probably seen enough flaws in PV'S work to justify their decision. Yeah we know AH hasn't the experience but its only an interim appointment until they get their man. Koukash has been quoted in saying " anyone not performing will be shown the door " obviously PV's wasnt performing in their eyes, AH has probably impressed the Dr to be appointed . TRUST IN KOUKASH what's happening internally now is what we've needed for decades. Great days are on the way just sit back and watch it all happen.
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| But it isn't a step forward. In my opinion, I'd love to see the flaws in veivers work. He's lost one game in which we probably should've won, so I think it's a bit rushed to sack him so soon.
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| The flaws are on the pitch all for us to see and to sign murthy for another month was a shocking decision.
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Yes some bitter soul on the BBC Sport forum is now even suggesting the Dr isn't a real doctor because he/she can't find any evidence to prove he is. Somebody then decided to post this link to prove otherwise.
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Yes some bitter soul on the BBC Sport forum is now even suggesting the Dr isn't a real doctor because he/she can't find any evidence to prove he is. Somebody then decided to post this link to prove otherwise.
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| right but he wouldnt have signed him without koukash lowe ect backing on it . and you telling me that a top coach would have got results with the team we had in our first 3 games
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| Quote ="middleman"Alex Murphy 1980, left Salford to Coach Wigan'"
Didn't Ashcroft go to Warrington in 1982 and come back a couple of years later? Or was that a different Ashy?
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| Quote ="willis91"But it isn't a step forward. In my opinion, I'd love to see the flaws in veivers work. He's lost one game in which we probably should've won, so I think it's a bit rushed to sack him so soon.'"
It is not just one game is it.
One win since July tells its own sorry story.
Fridays game was like a horror show in which McRae had returned as coach.
One man rugby and running into the marker just does not work.
That appears to have been Salfords tactic for the past 4 years apart from the odd game when they appear to say fook this lets play how we want to.
It is this that would have forced the management team to act.
Entertainment, winning and bringing in the crowds is the main object here and unfortunately Veivers was not providing this.
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| Quote ="willis91" He's lost one game in which we probably should've won, so I think it's a bit rushed to sack him so soon.'"
I don't think you can discount the last 8 games of 2012 that we lost.
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| Quote ="Prestwich Red"It is not just one game is it.
One win since July tells its own sorry story.'"
I think the numbers did him. Whereas before we were:
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| but it was practically the same team as last year and we had chances in them games to win or was winning then the team just stopped playing thats not veivers fault then other games the team wasnt playing for anything and you could tell veivers can only pick the team its then upto them what goes on the pitch
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| Not true. Spine of the team is different. Players on loan. New signings. it's not practically the same team at all. PV has gone. Get over it.
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| It must be a sad day when his Dad loses his job.
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| By that reckoning willis you'd never get rid of any manager?
IMO the right decision, harsh but inevitable.
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| Quote ="Red Willow"It must be a sad day when his Dad loses his job.'"
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| the only players that arn't here are feka vinnie patten gleeson holdsworth .. and no not at all but i still think he should have got a couple more games with this side then if still not performing fair enough but u right it is done with but then whats the point in having a forum where you cant discuss your opinions
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| Quote ="willis91"the only players that arn't here are feka vinnie patten gleeson holdsworth .. '"
Smith?
Moon?
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our first choice full back
Both first choice centres.
first choice stand off
first choice scrum half.
I'd say it was a new team myself this year. Given that last year our pack was the weak link and the backs were the one's causing the problems for teams, we didn't really stand much chance at all this year.
feel for PV as he's not had an easy ride with us from the start. He served us well and i thank him for that effort but i do see this from the business side of things. If we are to build and the top table dont see him as being the one to lead us, then so be it. I rather we get the new guy in who they feel can deliver and he be given the chance to build 'his team' rather than get lumbered with players he may or may not want.
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| Quote ="Chico"Didn't Ashcroft go to Warrington in 1982 and come back a couple of years later? Or was that a different Ashy?'"
Quote Who was the last Salford coach to be recruited by a top level side?'"
Yes Kevin Ashcroft did leave Salford to go to Warrington in 1982 , but to qualify you did say a ' Top level side '
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