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| Quote ="GT" but we're far from this amazing improvement people seem to think we've made.'"
Well I for one can see this `amazing` improvement. Perhaps we all have a different slant. If someone knows how to do it maybe a good idea is to put a Poll up to see how we all feel? Leave that to someone who knows what to do.
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| Whilst I like many didn't think Noble was the right man long term, he should've been given the full season to get us in the top 8, with a potential move upstairs at the end of the year if this was achieved. We would've sneaked 7th/8th with this squad playing the apparent dour Noble way IMO.
Hopefully Harris will come good however the upcoming run of fixtures don't full me with much confidence.
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| Quote ="Early Bath"Well I for one can see this `amazing` improvement. '"
You are not alone EB.
On page 20 of this weeks RLE - under the sub-heading Intensity of a cup final - Marytyn Sadler,who sees more rugby league than me and it don't cost him owt - after discussing the virtues of Kev Brown and Rangi,writes -
[i''I find it hard to believe that the Red Devils won't soon register a convincing victory against someone.''[/i
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| it'll only happen when we stop leaking tries down the wings!
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| Quote ="BartonFlyer"it'll only happen when we stop leaking tries down the wings!'"
I don't like singling out individuals but for me both wingers don't even know where to stand in defensive patterns. Some of the attempted "Tackles" from Meli in particular have been pathetic. On Saturday there were a few occasions where a Six Foot plus athlete of Meli's stature should have shunted the opposition winger into touch. Instead he patted his arms around the likes of I've not seen in a while from a rugby league player. Add to that his amazing skill under the high ball and he's a liability
Until he's replaced we are going to concede two try's a game from nothing plays.
I'd rather have anyone in that position!!
Rant Over!
P.S. To add to the discussion I think we are improving and there's definitely the effort, but until the above is resolved we're going to lose more than we win.
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| Whilst Meli may be at fault at one end, at least he makes up for it at the other. If other players did this we'd be ok, our right side (Gleeson and Williams) is unbelievably poor in both attack and defence.
Any news on Johnson? We've missed him big time.
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| Salford can do without fans like you, the bottom line is this team was put together a few months ago, any fool knows it takes at least a season for a team to gell, if you cant wait a while for things to get better go support another team, real fans stick through thick and thin.
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| Great. Another thread heading for a 'whose the bigger fan' contest...
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| Quote ="Lady Molestrangler"Salford can do without fans like you, the bottom line is this team was put together a few months ago, any fool knows it takes at least a season for a team to gell, if you cant wait a while for things to get better go support another team, real fans stick through thick and thin.
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Missing tackles and making unforced errors has nothing to do with gelling as a team. It comes down to individuals playing poorly and below their usual standards.
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| I think it's a tough call to criticise Williams on attack
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| Quote ="Bonita Red"I think it's a tough call to criticise Williams on attack'"
Or his defence. The try we conceded on that side on Saturday wasn't because he missed a tackle but because Kevin Brown came down the blind side and created a two on one on Danny Williams. Danny had to decide who to go for and went for the centre, so Brown lobbed one of his Elways over the top and they were in at the corner.
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| I've never been Danny Williams biggest fan but I think he's been good the last couple of games, hope he keeps it up!
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| I think the leak on that side of the field is Gleeson, Williams has pace too burn it's just infuriating that he doesn't make the most of his skills.
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| Quote ="Red John"Or his defence. The try we conceded on that side on Saturday wasn't because he missed a tackle but because Kevin Brown came down the blind side and created a two on one on Danny Williams. Danny had to decide who to go for and went for the centre, so Brown lobbed one of his Elways over the top and they were in at the corner.'"
In that instance I felt he got sucked in and fell for Browns pass hook line and sinker. Admittedly I can't recall it perfectly, but I'm certain another defender had the centre covered. I could be wrong though.
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| Quote ="Aboveusonlypie"I understand your point. And it certainly hurts to be compared to a tabloid scribe. It is also possible that you are adding a layer of complexity where one simply doesn't exist.
Do you think if MK said to HH "Come and join my revolution - but I can only pay you what you are on at Wigan" that he would sign?
By the way, I'm not knocking MK in this. I think he's great for the game and I wish you and him success. =#FF0000The game needs =#FF0000a club outside of Wigan and Leeds to be succesful. I do think that the signings for next season are a step up. FWIW I also think that people are a little too critical of Brian Noble, who deserved to be shown greater respect, given his achievements in the game. I'm not sure what Harris will offer that Brian couldn't.'"
The game did have one last season when Huddersfield after decades of trying won the minor premiership and they too were bankrolled by their owner. Soon forgotten by most.
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| Quote ="Michigan red"I think the leak on that side of the field is Gleeson, Williams has pace too burn it's just infuriating that he doesn't make the most of his skills.'"
He really doesn’t. He seems to have lost a hell of a lot of pace in the past couple of season, to me he seems like he struggles breaking into any sort of sprint as his hamstrings will give way any second.
I liked Willams when he first signed for us and he can still finish, but pace isn't one of his strong points anymore.
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| Williams is playing because Johnson is injured.
He's not first choice any more.
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| Quote ="Ave It!"He really doesn’t. He seems to have lost a hell of a lot of pace in the past couple of season, to me he seems like he struggles breaking into any sort of sprint as his hamstrings will give way any second.
I liked Willams when he first signed for us and he can still finish, but pace isn't one of his strong points anymore.'"
I agree, his hamstrings look shot and he seems to regularly have them bandaged up. As a step-in you can't complain, but the sooner Greg Johnson is back the better.
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| Quote ="Aboveusonlypie"I can only speak for myself RJ. I can perfectly well understand why Sam Tomkins, Joel Tomkins and Lee Mossop left the club.
It was a mixture of more money and the chance to play at a higher level in the NRL and in Joel's case try a new sport in which he was fast tracked into the England team playing in front of 80,000 against the All blacks.
I can't for the life of me understand what HH left for if it wasn't money.
I wonder if he is regretting it?'"
And, of course, the club failing to get you a cake on your birthday is another reason players choose to move on.
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"the sooner Greg Johnson is back the better.'"
Any idea when he's likely to be fit again? He's been badly missed.
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| Quote ="Bonita Red"Williams is playing because Johnson is injured.
He's not first choice any more.
As a stand in he's done very well.'"
There are other players I'd choose to leave out when Greg Johnson returns.
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| Quote ="Red John"And, of course, the club failing to get you a cake on your birthday is another reason players choose to move on.'"
And perfectly reasonable too . That £300,000 a week can't go far .
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| Quote ="Aboveusonlypie"And perfectly reasonable too
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Just when I thought my contempt for all things football had reached its limit, the magnificent efforts of one City player has helped me get my second wind.
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| Quote ="Red John"Just when I thought my contempt for all things football had reached its limit, the magnificent efforts of one City player has helped me get my second wind.'"
Completely with you on that. I've always had a soft spot for City and their (previously) long suffering fans. Interesting on Sky Sports News to see the total condemnation (indeed incredulity) from them.
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| Quote ="Red John"Just when I thought my contempt for all things football had reached its limit, the magnificent efforts of one City player has helped me get my second wind.'"
Any truth in the rumour we've cancelled Francis Meli's birthday party and are hoping for the best?
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