You really havent got a clue have u.you dont see other teams doing it so y should salford wigan wouldnt put hoffman in the reserves and he is going at the end of the season

Good point. However, Wigan are going forward trying to win things so wouldn't be daft enough to not pick good players. We have nothing to play for now so it wouldn't be as daft for us to look at alternative options who will be with us next season.

There is a distinct difference, we have bent over backwards for a good while trying to get Ratchford to sign a very lucrative new contract, Cashmere is going home, not joining a rival team and from what I understand is playing this season to honour the contract he has.

What Ratchford has in effect done is wound his contract down and left us without any return for a player we have brought through the ranks.

Your correct but watch how many games hoffman misses between now and the end of the season(barring injury)

I would not play him for a couple of reasons.

One would be the obvious reason that Parish wants to build a team based on tightness as a unit. If a player is leaving very soon, that unit cannot function how the coach wants it to. Therefore, for me, if we have cover don't play him.

The second reason is that he makes too many errors (24 so far this year) gives away too many penalties for the position he's playing (14 so far compared to, let's say, Henry in the same position who has only given away 1 penalty) for the return you get in either assists or tries or even breaks.

It's not a question of not playing him because he's leaving, it's a question of not playing him because he is not that good at the moment.

I have to say after seeing him last night then I'd leave him out for the rest of the season. The chip over for the try was the only thing he did all night apart from a multitude of mistakes. We could be playing one of the young lads instead of him now for the rest of the season. That would benefit the team much more than playing Ratch.

While stef has continued to put 100% in I feel his move is more of a two finger salute to our previous coaching resime, he is unwilling to gamble on MP taking the club forward and has put himself 1st

I can't see where wire will play him to be fair he wants to play 6 (will wire trust such an important pivot in their team to somebody still developing physically and mentally to dictate there play like briers does) he isn't a centre in reality (unless wire put him on a fat fast plan) or play him @ fullback (he does seem to flap when under pressure wild passes, crazy offloads which arnt on)

There was a moment last night where we were attacking there line 1st half 5th tackle, the wizard received the ball from the ruck, he shipped it to ratchford he looked up and popped the ball up to boyle who eventually got clamped up it was on for a kick for the corner or quick hands but he just passed on the responsibility of making the big decition and that's why he will struggle to be a top 6 in the future imo

I suspect Mr smith will take a look at him upclose in training and go and buy a top ozzie to play standoff, ratchford like turner before him will eventually just become a utility back and like Tim Harley salfords lost genius we will always wonder what might have been if mcrae hadn't ruined his talent or if Stef had given MP a chance and help make history by being a big cog in our engine instead of being a small cog in the big engine of warrington.

Tim Harley a lost genius????????????

From 2013 Ratchford will wear the No.6 shirt at Warrington for many years to come.

Thats great! whether he actually gets to play in the position the shirt number indicates will be another matter.

Yep he was outstanding for us then moved too soon to London before he had developed fully, last seen playing for Halifax i think as a blocker 2nd row big waste imo

I think that sort of proves my point that he wasn't really a lost genius at all, but a potentially good prospect who never made it as countless others don't. Hardly a lost genius

Ratchfords a good player and we all know that however with the squad size and quota spots i think Matt Parish will find somebody better for the amount of money he was probably wanting.

With the way the leagues looking and the teams we have to face, i think it would be better to put a young player in to give him a chance.

he was shocking last night,running and getting tackled on the 5th takle on the half way line was stupid.one of the trys for leeds was his fault and the kick into touch was shocking,he was near the line and still couldnt kick it out

Dont necessarily feel its all the fault of Ratch. SM is the villain of the piece. If he had played the lad instead of keeping him away from the frontline a contract would surely have ensued at the end of last season. Instead we were stuck with SM and Ratchford gets a `free`. SM has cost us £200k plus in my view.

I think its more

"Come to a bigger club than salford we will then turn u into a superstar.....wait....you can't do this bit of skill....no we can't nurture u....eh centre might be it better position....we r going in a different direction now....best of luck in your career"

Plus his wage from the last 2 years...

SM was an important part of the credibility of our last license bid,people forget that.
Give him respect and look forward not back.
He identified,correctly in my view,that Ratchfords particular and undoubted talent did not transfer to performances at stand off.
We will see but that was SM's judgment call and it was a reasonable call to make.
I agree that there is no point playing him now,different situation to Cashmere, and we should move on.

In what sense?

Bad pr for sky if mcrae is seen to be upset about the decition to relegate his team

"So what do you think of that decition shaun to relegate your team salford?"

"F*** y*** Stevo n Eddie the whole thing is $***,"

Surpose it was a master stroke by the club in many ways the only down side was losing 2k fans but they will get them back now we e in the new stadium hopefully.

Robbie Paul also helped.
I think the last application was on a knife edge and their presence was helpful.
The hard hats were also worth their weight in gold !

losing 2k fans a game would average about 30k in cash a match so 13 games at home would eqate to 390k in lost revenue a year enough to pay two or three very good players.

I thought I'd read somewhere that Ratchford needed a clean-up operation on his knee that would rule him out for the remainder of the season?

If so, I'd send him for it now - gives MP an excuse to drop him without causing too much friction, allows the team to made up of players who don't have their mind elsewhere and, most importantly, gives us the chance to put someone who is playing better in the centres because Ratchford has been poor recently.

I've liked Nero in the centres, not many get through him and now we have two wingers with pace he could create openings for the man outside him knowmatter who that is.