i bought the wife , the 3 match for £50 offer . i bet a few of those have been sold as xmas presents for people not sure if they want to commit to an s/t

I think it should be viewed as the first chance saloon for the off-field staff to prove their worth.
There is the 999 Emergency Services to target and the management of multi-employee businesses where they can be persuaded to purchase season tickets and raffle them to their staff,perhaps giving the profits to a charity,or cater to those working alternate shifts and unable to attend all games/reward for hard work/acts for the benefit of others/employers.
Those businesses/Emergency Services people can perhaps have them delivered by a player(s) if available.
Get into the community and try not to give a guilt complex to the hardcore support.

That stated,if there is anything I can do to help...

It's all kicking off on twitter tonight ....

@drmarwanK: @SamKlineberg Mate, not annoyed but disappointed that interest is not greater than what had been shown so far

@drmarwanK: @MRFITFCTiger Salford has the biggest potential. We will be the biggest SL club in the country. You have not seen any thing yet


@drmarwanK: @Riclufc7 Idiot ?. You won't be calling me that when we start signing your best players including the academy ones. We are the future team

@drmarwanK: @Riclufc7 Mate, the order at the top is changing and you better get used to it now.





Lost his cool or enthusiastic fighting talk? Never a dull moment with a The Doc.

What people/opposition fans don't realise is when they plss him off on twitter it just makes him more determined to succeed, so by all means everyone carry on ing off the wealthiest RL owner in the game it can only be good for us.

He's certainly passionate that's for sure. It's too early to judge but I certainly think RL is better with Marwan Koukash in it. An interesting decade awaits......

I think he's brilliant I really do, I just hope the people of Salford and Gtr Manchester start to see it and come ouy and support their club or more of the locals are converted to RL.

It's all a bit surreal , A year ago we didn't even know his identity , a total unknown in RL. and we unable to sell a single ticket because our bank account was frozen .
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Nearly 40days to go to the 1st fixture and there's angst because we've only allegedly moved 2.5K season passes ... 2500 passes without resorting to wider press or add campaigns to see a team that hasn't played a game together yet , and some people have written off as old mercenaries after a last payday ...,we should be ecstatic .

His main strength is that he comes from a background in racing. Selling racing is not just selling watching horses run but a wider entertainment package with exciting horse racing at the core. Selling Salford will be the same: a wide entertainment package that has an exciting Rugby game at the core. These days we are competing in the entertainment business and offering just a RL game is not enough. I may like it but a family new to the sport?

Too many RL enthusiasts have not embraced this yet: they therefore deride the watering down of the core values they defend. Tough. They are dinosaurs. Society has moved on and other sports have siezed the chances this brings.

An example is RU at Twickenham: it provides bags of money for that sport, makes a huge impact in the media, is hugely successful, and for many the game is only one bit of a wider package of food, drink and other entertainment.

I may have a cloth cap but no whippet, lad.

He's expecting far too much too soon IMO, we've not even played a game yet never mind won one. I fear for the attendance against Saints if Wakefield beat us.

People will come out to watch a winning team that is the fact of the matter, at the moment we don't have a winning team and as it stands we are still the worst team in league (going off last year’s standings). If we have a good season this year people will sit up and take note then next year and future years we will see the benefit.

Exactly. We've made promising signings on paper in the past and things have failed on grass - 2007 anyone? There is definitely a good degree of optimism and positive signs, but there will be plenty whose enthusiasm has been worn down by years of stodge and are waiting to see some proof of improvement.

I think 2500 isn't too bad. It will take time for new fans to commit to a season ticket, but I'm sure a lot of them will start off by coming to the odd game to see what they think. Hopefully if we get off to a flyer, the buzz will be generated.

In one of the first games under Koukash's ownership, we played Hull KR and beat them 38-34 infront of 1,989 people with that figure including a couple of hundred KR fans too. We've already sold 2,500 tickets with no doubt more to come in the forthcoming weeks, which is a vast improvement.

This will only continue to improve if the team fullfill their expectations on the pitch, on paper we have favourable opening fixtures, win these and attendances will improve. As I said earlier, it's all well and good Koukash wanting more ST sales but he's only been involved with Salford RLFC for the last 12 months. The majority of those with an interest in Salford have been around for the last 25 years plus and have been let down time and time again, to the point where they require actions to speak louder than words i.e see a successful team playing well.

Some good posts on here - even from opposition fans.
I looked at the magic screen last night - just for a different perspective.
By chance came across a club where the chairman,during difficult financial times,was a former horse racing jockey,Willlie Carson,who later commentated alongside Clare Balding on the tv.
They used an outside agency,over a 6 months period and managed a 32% increase in season ticket sales.
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I then returned to my usual simmering rage when I read an online billet-doux from the RFL to an outside agency which specializes in 'fan engagement and customer relationship management' and played a part in the recent World Cup and 'encouraging new and lapsed fans'.Not only that,the list of clients includes 3 Super League clubs,two geographically close,and Hull FC.

Were their services offered? Did anyone in the rugby league family help our club by pointing us in their direction?
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Looks like we shall have to go it alone.Don't forget to grab your posters !

I for one will be heartened (and surprised) if we have sold 2,500. Thinking back to last season, as stated above, we had less than that on the ground for a fixture. I may be wrong but I don't reckon there were 2500 Salford fans in attendance for a few home games (London, Catalans, Huddersfield, Castleford games all spring to mind), though I may be wrong.

Assuming we have sold that many, and assuming another 1500 locals walk up on the day, plus 1000 from Wakefield and we have a decent (though not spectacular) opening attendance. Win that and beat London, and the stage is set for a gold-plated opportunity to put ourselves in the shop window on Sky against Saints (though it'll probably snow...)

Before reaching for the razor blades and aspirin, we should ask ourselves
1. How accurate is the 2500 figure?
2. How does it compare to other similar clubs?
3. How does it compare to our own sales for last season?

In the case of question 3, I'd guess it is a significant improvement.

So, [iif[/i the 2500 figure is correct, I don't think that's too shabby for a club that's won nothing of any significance since before [iany[/i of our current squad were born. And that's a long time when you consider how old some of our squad are.

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I can understand Marwan's frustrations here to an extent, he's put his heart and soul into re-building this club from an almost irretrievable position in less than 12 months. However, I echo the thoughts of quite a few posters on here that we haven't fired a shot in anger yet so signing lots of marquee players (and some of them undoubtedly are despite what other clubs supporters have been saying here and on the VT) is very likely to not be enough to lure back those who have either been Salford supporters and regulars at the Willows in the past but have become so disenchanted that only a cup semi-final would lure them back or are completely new supporters of the game and choose Salford as their preferred destination. It also won't make them buy a season ticket straight off either, it's too big a gamble for those folk.

Marwan's frustration came through in a twitter exchange I had with him last night (amongst a few others) where I was suggesting exactly that. I pointed out that it (was more than) enough for me to buy a season ticket and I already had but frankly I'd have bought one even if we were still a basket case! I think we already know that Marwan waits for no man but I get the feeling that because he can't control the pace of take up or fathom the reasons why people still don't appear to want to sign up that his natural impatience is playing havoc with him!

I think the club is doing an amazing job in getting the message out about ticket deals, the new look team etc. and creating a real buzz of excitement, we just need to keep that momentum up until the season starts and then as Derek says 2 wins from 2 and some of that activity should convert to repeat sales, after all, that's what Marwan is after and I think, in time, he'll get it.

Roll on 16th February!

We achieved a total attendance of less than 2,500 on 6 occasions last season;

Hull KR – 1,989
London – 2,333
Wakefield – 2,327
Castleford – 2,306
Hull FC – 2,000
Catalan – 2,200

We also only managed only slightly above that v Huddersfield (2,78icon_cool.gif. Therefore, if the 2,500 (to date) season ticket figure is accurate and I see no reason by Marwan Koukash would lie about this then we have almost certainly already guaranteed to improve on every attendance figure we posted in 2013. When you consider the majority of games vs Yorkshire opponents are to be played on Sunday’s this season, you’d expect to see an increase in away support too.

The away take up will improve that's for sure, fans do like a good game and apart from the occasional upset Salford have been a bit of a whipping boy and people can take or leave a game in which they think they'll deliver a drubbing.

The usual lot of Wire/Saints/Wigan will bring fans and should bring a good atmosphere but i can see a few fans being more drawn to this fixture.

I hope Salford are a strong side this season, it's something i wish for every team.

Playing the Yorkshire teams on Sundays was a good decision. I can see a big boost in away support from across the pennines as it allows families the time to make the trip and even make a day of it with the Trafford centre next door. I think if we can gain some momentum on the field it'll have a knock-on effect with both home and away fans.

think we sold less than a thousand s/t`s last season so to be at the figure we are is a good effort , theres other ticket options i think fans are taking up because games are spread between thursday to sunday now , work commitments means missed matches , i missed quite a few on fridays cos i drive for a living now , still think there will be 6-7 k for the wakefield game and thats a good start

If you look at it in a very simple way, if every season ticket holder (if we have got 2500) really put the effort it (not much effort really) and brought just 1 extra fan to games, we'd have a 'basic' crowd of 5000 before any walk ups and away fans. Come on ST holders, we ALL need to take some responsibility for this.

Ps - Perhaps the club could give season ticket holders 2 guest passes a year where we can bring a 'first time guest' for £12.

Difficult for a season ticket holder to take someone in a fixed pre paid seat, only the standing areas are able to do that.

I'm getting a little troubled by a lot of peoples thought and worries on size in all this argument/debate/idle chit chat



Anyway just a couple of things from me, firstly I agree that the doctors expectations regarding how quickly his plan (Evil in some people's eyes) will come together, it's going to take time to rebuild what is a shocking relationship between the club and its fans before we can get everyone back on board, but with a few results this will/may happen, lets walk before we run would be my message to the good Dr.

Secondly I can only recall 4 times in the last 30 years we've averaged over 5k (and too be fair one of them would be like believing in the tooth fairy

) so, with the alleged 2.5k season tickets already account for, and I for one know a number of people who will be purchasing them for definite before the season starts, and with matchday walk-up and away fans we should have no fear of reaching that number again. The Warrington, Wigan, Leeds & Saints matches should see us ok for that.

To look to the future (to use a cliche), the size of the crowd is only one factor; the match experience needs to be the same.
Think of our last match at the Willows and the first match at Barton. Both had good crowds but the game was disappointing. I can think of matches where the crowd was increased by free tickets given to school children when we were abysmal and the opposition excellent. I'm sure we turned several young Salford children into Bulls, Tigers etc.

I'd rather have 4000 enjoying Salford Red Devils than 6000 watching us being boring or us losing. In the first instance, the 4000 will grow. In the second, the 6000 will plummet.

As an outsider looking in, I would suggest 2500 if that figure is correct is a superb effort considering some of the attendances quoted earlier in the thread.

You've got a squad littered with star players and some with great potential (Fages) which is considerably enhanced from last season.

Your crowds are guaranteed to rise.

Your owner will back the coach moving forwards as he has done over the last year.

You're now recruiting top youngsters from all over the North West and are competing with Saints/Wigan etc... (this is from what I read)

Enjoy the ride......