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| Looking at it from a purely rugby point of view, we should sign him!! The guy's world class!! His performance in the grand final last year was immense. He's played for three of the biggest teams in SL so he must have something about him.
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| This could all be hypothetical if we haven't the money to sign him but . .
He's an International quality centre with probably 2 years left in him at Superleague level. It may be worth giving him a chance if the conditions were right for Salford. If he wants to continue playing in SL and isn't keen on travelling (Assuming another SL team were interested) then he might come for less money and prove a real asset to the team. I'm sure our wingers would welcome playing outside him with open arms. Perhaps we could offer him a deal until the end of the season with special clauses:
1. Perform and get another 12 months after this year.
2. Any more trouble and the contract is cancelled with immediate effect.
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| Quote ="KMT"Not for me to be honest. I would rather we signed a younger player with potential. I know he is class and all, but he is trouble and is 30+, i would like us to sign a player who could be on the way up and bring the club forward with their growth as opposed to a player that is on the decline, as we seem to have done with a few of our signings this year. Obviously we have signed a few exceptions to that i.e the general but he is a top pro who is no doubt a great influence to the kids and fellow teammates and is the kind a pro that we all want to see playing for and promoting our club, unlike Gleeson who I fear wouldn't'"
Agree entirely. He's had his chances and screwed them up: talent undoubtedly, but a possible bad influence that we can't afford. I don't know what sort of salary he's been used to either, but it won't be peanuts.
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| Quote ="Butchersdad" but a possible bad influence that we can't afford. '"
I here what you say but it didn't prevent Wigan winning Superleague last year of which he was a big part of.
As for screwing it up, I don't think he did at Saints because Warrington paid a £200K transfer fee for him didn't they? And then he left Warrington because they needed a fullback and swapped him for Richie Mathers with Wigan paying £125K on top of the swap deal.
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| I don't think there is any diubt about his playing credentials and whilst he's not the player he was and is now the wrong side of 30 from what I have seen over the last couple of years, he is still a class act. I don't know much about his alleged off field antics and as long as they stay off field and don't affect his performances or influence his team mates I'm not sure I would be that bothered.
Given the circumstances we may be able to get him on a cheap deal and it may mean we are able to move Nero into the pack more often to strengthen the 2nd row. Gleeson would certainly improve our defence
But his head has to be sufficiently sorted for it to be considered
I think it is a bit different from Cooke because there seem to be more stories about Cooke creating disharmony at his clubs than there are about Gleeson
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| Quote ="king of the shed"St Helens couldn't handle him, Warrington couldn't handle him & Wigan couldn't handle him, what chance of we got?
Crackin' player but sadly flawed.'"
This.
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| Quote ="Lyrad Red"And a bit of a C**T on the pitch. Which is what I think we lack at times when were too honest. A bully who can get in the oppositions face and win the arm wrestle out wide.'"
You have watched Martin Gleeson play, right? He's got great hands, awareness and tons of experience, but a big strong hard player he isn't, you're mixing him up with Keith Senior!
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| I'm aware of the circumstances of his recent ' issue' at Wigan , and yes he is not perfrect !
However cast your mind back to the Grand Final and the tries he / created - scored . he still has great on field capabilities , we should have enough experience in our squad / coaching set up to manage him off field .
If he is available sign him on .
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| Probably a load of poo, but if we are going to offer him a contract, I'd only take him on a pay as you play and kick him out if he causes any problems.
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| Quote ="Red-4-life"Probably a load of poo, but if we are going to offer him a contract, I'd only take him on a pay as you play and kick him out if he causes any problems.'"
Only problem with a 'pay as you play' deal is if the player performs very well you could then potentially lose what may become an important player at a minutes notice should another team offer more money.
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| We've taken bigger gambles than this in the past and a club of our standing sometimes has to take these chances. At the end of the day he's world class and how many of those have we currently on the books?
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| Quote ="Rooted Red"We've taken bigger gambles than this in the past and a club of our standing sometimes has to take these chances. =#FF0000:3oxbw976At the end of the day he's world class and how many of those have we currently on the books?[/
If, by 'international players' you mean, are they better than the players England took to the four nations last year:
Cashmere, Holdsworth and Patten.
When you think Cashmere is better than Griffin, Holdsworth is better Kevin Brown and Patten is far better under the high ball than Tomkins and has far better positional play than Widdop. Although I do think Widdop has potential.
Add to that Wild has played for England/GB, plus Smith, Ratchford and Broughton could make it into the England team in the near future. Granted, it's only international potential at the moment. Let's not forget Nero plays for Italy!! Lol
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| Quote ="LincolnDEVILSFan"
And that Widdop is now a stand off... Pretty useful in his new position too.
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| Obviously he would offer us something from a playing perspective, but he's not worth it for all the hassle that goes with him. Unless he's sorted out his personal life (which is very unlikely if what I've been told of the alleged circumstances of his supposed sacking are true) then we should steer well clear IMO.
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| Quote ="Red Preacher"Quote ="LincolnDEVILSFan"
And that Widdop is now a stand off... Pretty useful in his new position too.'" '"
So I've been hearing, for England's sake let's hope he can step up! I actually thought he played better at centre than Atkins!!
Just trying to highlight what talent we do actually have.
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| Of course, we must remember that he's been over in Aus for years and progressed through their academy structure. Which makes me think; would it be good policy to send people over to Aus at an early age to aid their development?
However, I'm sure he'll step up. He's got years and years ahead of him and a coach renowned for successfully bringing players through to first grade. (Craig Bellamy)
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| He's off to Australia.
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| Quote ="DogPie"He's off to Australia.'"
thank god for that
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| would rather look at a young keen player than a has been tbh.
Far too much baggage
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| Quote ="dann_salford"www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12207_6831308,00.html
Simms plays down the prospects of signing Gleeson and says we are instead looking for a =#400080direct replacement for Bailey.'"
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| Stay clear I think he is bad news - When Wigan find him he will be sacked - Stick with young lads coming through & perhaps look for some one who wants to play for us.
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| I honestly wouldn't sign him regardless of his history. Yeah he has been a good player but he's the wrong side of 30 and we don't need another centre. We could do with another prop or an out and out winger. It'd just be a waste of money.
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